OFFICIAL PROPOSAL from FE/TMO - Page 51

Ravager · #**501** 12-31-2013, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Xadion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the war epic ALWAYS had the green scale cock block. If its still rare on a 1k population server with YEARS of kunark... You think it was 'easy to get' or cheap on a 2k population live server with less than a year of kunark?

rotation is dumb as shit folks...

the 'top guilds' do not think they should just be given all the mob, they think that within the rules they should be able to WORK and COMPETE to get as many as they can... Its everyone else that wants rotation or candy loot bags given to them that are the ones saying they are entitled to stuff...

most of the population just sits back and says 'well I got my epic on live and didn't super raid!' yes, after the changes to epics after velious... During Kunark and early vel they where rare and elite...well sans rouge lol

Green scale will be cheap to get when warriors don't have to pay TMO for it.

Nirgon · #**502** 12-31-2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope everyone recognizes the fact that this whole problem stems from no Velious. These mobs would be completely open if the top 3 guilds were busy in Velious.

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Ravager · #**503** 12-31-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Xadion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no agreement was met because the 'lower tier' guilds are pulling a power play to create a communistic rotation, and that's not meant as a flame, its really a form of commune thought- that all the community is all entitled to an equal share of the wealth and those that do high end jobs and have high education and or experience get and should have the same as the low end workers and non experienced peoples.

the masses love it!

Pretty sure the decision was left up to the masses and not the elite. In a system where pixels are artificially generated (you're not doing work to pop a mob), why should anyone be more entitled to it than someone else?

Hitpoint · #**504** 12-31-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure the decision was left up to the masses and not the elite. In a system where pixels are artificially generated (you're not doing work to pop a mob), why should anyone be more entitled to it than someone else?

Because some people still put in much more effort. It's very, very simple.

Clark · #**505** 12-31-2013, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Durka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for your input butters. But we need qualified input - guilded invested individuals who have experience with these things.

What the hell are you talking about?

Nirgon · #**506** 12-31-2013, 01:14 PM

Let's take a poll with all American citizens of how taxes and welfare should be handled.

Ravager · #**507** 12-31-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No its not.

Yes it is.

Ciroco · #**508** 12-31-2013, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because some people still put in much more effort. It's very, very simple.

Everyone wants effort to be rewarded. The problem is that the level of effort required to field one raid mob has reached a level that (I assume) no one is comfortable with.

Ravager · #**509** 12-31-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because some people still put in much more effort. It's very, very simple.

But putting in the effort is stupid. It's like installing a pump to a natural spring. It's not everyone's fault that 10% of the population make a shit ton of work just because they want more.

falkun · #**510** 12-31-2013, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope everyone recognizes the fact that this whole problem stems from no Velious. These mobs would be completely open if the top 3 guilds were busy in Velious.

Then why are you advocating a proposal that does not scale into Velious? Do you want to have everyone raid suspended again when Velious drops while we figure out a new agreement? Or would you rather have the agreement hashed out now so when Velious drops the server can easily adapt it to the new content and raiding can continue unimpeded?

This deal is shortsighted.