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Old 07-04-2013, 04:09 PM
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well right they are only given certain options, but at every point of the process the jury can at least hang itself if not go against what is recommended by process
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ofc any ruling is subject to appeal, but juries can do a lot more than they are told they can do.
The definition of "reasonable doubt" is also totally subjective. It always amazes me how strict "reasonable doubt" becomes in high-profile cases like this and Casey Anthony. People are sentenced to life in prison or death on much less evidence on a routine basis.
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I was summoned for jury duty once only. The judge explained that if they get evidence that points to guilt they MUST convict. So I asserted very loudly that that was absolutely not the case and that jurors can and should enter not guilty if they feel that someone has broken an unjust law.

I was quickly dismissed and I've never been summoned since.
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Old 07-04-2013, 04:14 PM
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The definition of "reasonable doubt" is also totally subjective. It always amazes me how strict "reasonable doubt" becomes in high-profile cases like this and Casey Anthony. People are sentenced to life in prison or death on much less evidence on a routine basis.
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I was summoned for jury duty once only. The judge explained that if they get evidence that points to guilt they MUST convict. So I asserted very loudly that that was absolutely not the case and that jurors can and should enter not guilty if they feel that someone has broken an unjust law.

I was quickly dismissed and I've never been summoned since.
I too have used Jury Nullification to avoid jury duty. Works everytime. Waiting for a case for a pot conviction to let the person off.
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Old 07-04-2013, 04:22 PM
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I was summoned for jury duty once only. The judge explained that if they get evidence that points to guilt they MUST convict. So I asserted very loudly that that was absolutely not the case and that jurors can and should enter not guilty if they feel that someone has broken an unjust law.

I was quickly dismissed and I've never been summoned since.
HAVE SOME SENSE OF CIVIC DUTY, BRO ...
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Old 07-04-2013, 04:24 PM
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HAVE SOME SENSE OF CIVIC DUTY, BRO ...
The goal was to be a conscientious juror, I wasn't trying to be nullified.
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Old 07-04-2013, 04:26 PM
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I was summoned for jury duty once only. The judge explained that if they get evidence that points to guilt they MUST convict. So I asserted very loudly that that was absolutely not the case and that jurors can and should enter not guilty if they feel that someone has broken an unjust law.

I was quickly dismissed and I've never been summoned since.
Good for you.

Haven't been called highly doubt I ever will
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Old 07-04-2013, 04:43 PM
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The goal was to be a conscientious juror, I wasn't trying to be nullified.
I was the jk.

I was a juror a few years ago, and it was a pretty brutal experience. It wasn't anything huge-- a guy got a ticket for driving without insurance, and went to court with some forged documents saying he actually did have insurance at the time. The whole trial took 4 days, and the guy represented himself (poorly). He told the jury he'd go to prison if he was found guilty because of his past record (which is against the law). The solidarity and comradery that blooms among jurors is definitely interesting-- you wind up growing oddly close to your fellow jurors. At least that was my experience.

I feel awful for the jurors in the Zimmerman case, though I couldn't bear being a juror in a murder trial-- way too much responsibility.
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I feel awful for the jurors in the Zimmerman case, though I couldn't bear being a juror in a murder trial-- way too much responsibility.
and theyll probably be deliberating for weeks
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