GM Event Just Held/Finished.

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by Mac Drettj [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tune team raped Lite team in the dodgeball teambuilding 60s bracket.

aww yiss i remember that

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Technique [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think you realize that the degree to which this happens is directly proportional to your level of involvement in these events and how heavy-handed your administration of them is.

I won't deny that this server is populated by several incorrigible shitbags, but they're not particularly intelligent and will behave predictably in reaction to what you present them with.

So when you find yourself "disabling PvP / forcibly DT'ing people to stop PvP", just so your little event can play out how you envisioned it, you're only perpetuating the problems you sought to correct.

I don't think anyone realizes the only reason we stopped PvP was because the event was already over and I stopped PvP so I could distribute loot fairly by rolling.

I would never stop PvP during an event just so "things could play out the way I want them to".

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by pgerman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nilly doesn't get loot for a couple of weeks, now they trying to force azrael to team up with x nihilum members


how sad

Here's your issue. One side with such brain rot that even people like Ryser who are some of the nicest people you'll encounter on this box are evil x nihilum members because they showed up to between six and seven raids. The brain rot is a one direction disease. You don't find the same level of hatred and crippling disdain for azrael amongst the other people on the server who actually play here. Once nihilum was removed and the people who fostered the brain rot quit on the other side you'd think azrael would move on also. I don't blame derubael at all. Very discouraging for the future of red.

[karsten]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think anyone realizes the only reason we stopped PvP was because the event was already over and I stopped PvP so I could distribute loot fairly by rolling.

I would never stop PvP during an event just so "things could play out the way I want them to".

you are responding to the wrong posts, dude, and i think you know it

[karsten]

i'll also say that you're responding to the wrong things in the posts that you're responding to, and i think you know that too

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Bazia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

last 4 events before this were for low levels

^ That. possibly even 5 if you include the arena event as a "low level" event (which it was).

Originally Posted by Gaffin 7.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

shocking guess i never been around for them then, all 3 here and previous 3 or 4 on blue all were lvl 60

This isn't true either. The last event we did on blue was a free run for all levels from freeport to qeynos. Before that it was a level 60 event, and before that it was a series of low level races, pvp events, and random encounters (on blue).

On red the only events we've run this whole year have been PvP events. The amount of misinformation that gets spread on these servers makes my head spin.

If you guys treat the Guides right maybe they'll be willing to run a PvP event for you high level guys. They are easy to set up and don't require GM powers like mob summoning. I used to do these all the time because I was a Guide and couldn't do anything more significant.

The funny thing is, and I wish I could dig up these comments but it's not worth the effort, when I was doing all the big PvP events over here on Red, there were a ton of people, including some of those decrying PvE events now, that called for more complex PvE oriented events that the whole server could go at. I hate to say it but I honestly don't think some of you know what you want, as is apparent to me because of the aforementioned flip-flop. That's not meant to be an insult because it's neither good nor bad - it's just an observation based on what I've seen/heard over the last ~year of doing events.

I don't think there's anything wrong with a PvE event on a PvP server, and a lot of you agreed with me on that 6 months ago (which was why I did a PvE event). The thing about it is that PvE events can absolutely be PvP events as well - fighting over the target to try and win loot rights. But at a certain point once it's clear one side has won, everyone should band together to take it down (if necessary, like it was last night). The winning side can decide if they want to keep the loot drops or pass them off, but at least that way everyone gets to participate and have fun (for most people, the fun is in the encounter, not the loot that drops). In a year from now people will be talking about how much they dislike the PvP events and wish we would do something PvE oriented like we do on blue. It's an inevitable cycle of events that will continue to repeat itself until the box dies.

As a side note, I have relaxed since last night. I was never really "mad", but definitely disappointed and frustrated at the situation. Regardless, I did take some of that out on Jibeknn, which wasn't appropriate, and for that I apologize. I really do think the current attitude at the top-end is detrimental to the server (there were people who had nothing to do with Nihilum getting PK'd upon entering DC, so nobody can say it was just to stop ex-niihlum), and that it's going to drive people away in the long run. All of that being said, I do plan to help with high-level events in the future, but will likely not quarterback them like I usually do. We already have plans to do PvP events a short ways down the road, both high and low.

The only thing I've ever cared about is the health of the server - I don't get anything out of this position except the enjoyment of knowing that people are having fun, and as many people as possible are doing so. It's a tough place to be in, and I take a lot more heat than anyone else because - as some of you may have noticed - I often come to the forums to write explanations like this when no one else will. I do that because, despite the flames that inevitably result, I care about the community and feel you guys deserve to hear the reasoning behind various decisions. I don't have to do that, but I do anyways, because I care.

Sorry for the tl;dr. I sincerely hope this box can lay the past to rest and allow the server to flourish the way it's supposed to.

Edit: Karsten, I didn't do anything wrong last night, except to assume that people could get along, so what are you going on about?

[derpcake]

I didn't read all that man, wtf.

People were bitter and annoying as fuck?

Thats what the server is like. I mean I have good reason to join them, after seeing ninjalooting being ignored by staff, hell takes effort to look into them logs, but wtf, you new to red99?

Haha

[Sektor]

Ignore Karsten the guy is mental.

[derpcake]

u def gonna win forumquest btw, solid time investment

[Vharvest]

Derubael, let me ask you one question, just curious.

How long did it take to set up that AoF and the two fear golems? Just curious. I know you don't just select a mob from a mob list and press a button, it's probably way more complicated than that. But for real, how hard was it?

I just wanna know because in case you have a change of heart attitude wise, I'd like to know how physically difficult it is for you to do something like this again.

For example, how hard would it be for you to clone a version of Gorenaire and put her in GFay or Lfay for people to raid, but with buffed AoE's or something. Something similar to what you did last night.