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Old 07-23-2014, 09:15 AM
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Default Recreating the classic experience: item recharging

This should be pretty easy to settle.

Boxing and item recharging were both possible day 1 on EQ and through Velious.

Very very few people boxed, so we do not allow it to recreate the "classic experience".

An even smaller number people knew about item recharging (especially during Kunark) even compared to the # of people boxing.

How is allowing item recharging recreating the classic experience again? Should we just allow boxing too?

Inb4 raiders that love rushing down mobs with midnight mallet for ezpz lemon sqzy agro gain. Show me some threads/history for raid strategy where they have the tanks rush in with fully charged mallets that they recharged on the regular.

tl;dr midnight mallet quest ruins my immersion.
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Old 07-23-2014, 09:18 AM
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Old 07-23-2014, 09:19 AM
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So do I, but the fact is we can never go back to the classic experience... where there was no info on most of the game and everything was a mystery. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] makes me sad.
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Old 07-23-2014, 09:26 AM
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Let's not forget the limitations of the hardware we had during that era too. Zoning could take up to 5 minutes on a p200! Bring back classic zoning times and framerates.
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Old 07-23-2014, 09:28 AM
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Bring it mechanically close. If you still don't get those feels it's your own problem.
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Old 07-31-2014, 01:42 PM
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Bring it mechanically close. If you still don't get those feels it's your own problem.
This, imo.

I mean, really I can't see how Nirgon is doing anything other than trying to be inflammatory. Comparing boxing to recharging is stupid as shit. Item recharging was rare back in the day because no one knew about it. Just like no one knew that the starting stat recommendations in the official EQ documentation was retarded.

Recreating a classic experience is impossible. It's impossible to do it for even one person, let alone for everyone. But recreating classic mechanics as best as possible and letting players run free in the framework created by those mechanics? That is not only more realistic to accomplish but, in my opinion, more in keeping with the spirit of classic EQ (here's our game: go have fun with it) to boot.
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Old 07-23-2014, 09:38 AM
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Compelling post.

Classic - Kunark it wasn't too common of practice to recharge items. Velious it became more prevalent:

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You can recharge a Larriken's the following way.

1) Sell a fully charged mask to a vendor.
2) Sell the empty mask to the same vendor.
3) Buy back both masks - now fully charged. (I havent done so and hence dont know the price).

The mask is lore though - so you need 2 chars to do this. Also make sure to use a fairly empty vendor - you dont want to have to buy a lot of junk before your masks show up for sale.
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You need 2 - 1 with charges and one without. Sell the one with charges to a vendor first then the one without charges. The vendor will stack them so when you buy them back they will both have charges. This can be done with Larriken's Masks, old pumice stones and I assume the staff.
Posts in era confirming the recharging mechanic. These are on open boards that many people read. I think it's fair to say during Velious it was becoming common knowledge. The strategy of using mallets to aggro however may not have been.

A more compelling notion would be making SoulFire paladin only clickable.

Though I will say. Not Classic.

Nirgon, I know you want a classic experience. Work to make Red a server worthy of playing on. Slay the global OOC, PvP text and Group EXP bonuses first. Then reconsider item recharge on blue.
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Old 07-31-2014, 02:05 PM
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Nirgon, I know you want a classic experience. Work to make Red a server worthy of playing on. Slay the global OOC, PvP text and Group EXP bonuses first. Then reconsider item recharge on blue.
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Old 07-23-2014, 10:11 AM
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This should be pretty easy to settle.

Boxing and item recharging were both possible day 1 on EQ and through Velious.

Very very few people boxed, so we do not allow it to recreate the "classic experience".

An even smaller number people knew about item recharging (especially during Kunark) even compared to the # of people boxing.

How is allowing item recharging recreating the classic experience again? Should we just allow boxing too?

Inb4 raiders that love rushing down mobs with midnight mallet for ezpz lemon sqzy agro gain. Show me some threads/history for raid strategy where they have the tanks rush in with fully charged mallets that they recharged on the regular.

tl;dr midnight mallet quest ruins my immersion.
www.stahptryingtobreakmybladestopper.com

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Old 07-23-2014, 10:24 AM
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Thats one website right there.
That nice try doe.

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