stop bringing up the founding fathers in gun arguments

[Strifer]

Guys for real if Jesus had guns he wouldn't have died, or at least that is what southern evangelicals want you to believe....hmmmm

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by EvilMallet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You fucking retard.

The people at large wanted to revolt because they didn't want to pay taxes for a war that had no part of (The Seven Years War, maybe you've heard of it?). They wanted people to have guns to increase the power of their militias, because that pretty much was the only military force we had. We don't have a militia now. We have military. You don't need guns , unless you plan on fighting our own soldiers, in which case:

The Bill of Rights was ratified in 1791. The Revolutionary War ended with the Treaty of Paris in 1783.

The Second Amendment is wholly unrelated to the needs of the Revolutionary War. They didn't want an armed populace in order to defeat the British -- they already had defeated them. By 1784, the US had already established Regular Army infantry regiments. By 1791, the US had established a trained standing army.

Militia and armed populace was seen as a defense against tyranny and a guarantor of liberty. That may or may not be accurate, but that was the vision.

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Originally Posted by Strifer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guys for real if Jesus had guns he wouldn't have died, or at least that is what southern evangelicals want you to believe....hmmmm

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High speed internet is a human right.

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[EvilMallet]

Originally Posted by Hitchens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

High speed internet is a human right.

Prove me wrong.

i cant

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by philbertpk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You must be reading some lib-tard BS man.

True, the founding fathers were land owning-slave owning white guys who re-wrote John Locke's Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Land to Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness because they obviously wanted to keep the class structure intact which would be viewed as oligarchical today.

But ill be dammed if they didn't write the ability for the people to revolt if ever needed into the Constitution. The right to bare arms is based on the thought that a well armed populace was the best way to deter the government from stepping on the rights on citizens not so that as many people as possible could keep guns to kill redcoats. You under informed Marxist. Go back to commy land Pinky.

Im not saying we should hold those men up on a pedestal and call them Gods, but damn. Im a damn moderate but I Know better than this BS your spewing. Go get an education.

So you think some redneck with a ar-15 is going to take on an Abrams tank? The real power of revolt is our volunteer military not our firearms.

The founding fathers imaginings have no place in modern society. Its time to be our own people.

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diggles lives in a troll cave in alaska, his opinion is biased that his mom is gonna put that 44 to the back of his head one day when hes in his 30s still masterbating to hentai in the living room

[EvilMallet]

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Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you think some redneck with a ar-15 is going to take on an Abrams tank? The real power of revolt is our volunteer military not our firearms.

The founding fathers imaginings have no place in modern society. Its time to be our own people.

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