Game Mechanics: Sontalak AE

[Daldaen]

Yea I was about to link that video.

From 0:20 to 1:30 that cleric casts no group heals on his group. They all are slowly taking AOE damage and then at the end of it he casts a group CH to top off his group.

He seems to take AEs (loses buff and Halfling makes audible "I got hit noise" at 0:18, 0:32, 0:50, 1:04, 1:16, 1:30, (he DAs), 2:00, 2:14. Suggesting a 12-14 second delay between AEs... Never once do two AEs come back to back in a 3-5second period.

A few things:

On P99 over that 70 second period you could expect 14-21 Fire AE procs over that duration (assuming 3-5sec between procs like observed last night). That is more than double a fully buffed MT's HP. Yet they seem to have no problem not healing during that period of time.

It is slightly possible he proc'd that much and they just resisted a lot? I doubt this however they may be stacking 255 FR whereas on P99 we are required to stack 255 MR instead.

Which brings me to another point. Again - http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...highlight=Roar - Notice how very few people are eating fears. Trying to cast group CH (12s cast time) on P99 would be absolutely suicide. However here he has no issue because he really never gets feared. Dragon Roar REALLY needs to be put on the correct version with no extra Lure check.

If it is intended to be a proc, it seems to have a recharge on it around 12 seconds. If it intended to be a proc in classic it should have a recast of about 12-14 seconds.

He was certainly harder than the other first brood but he shouldn't be that ridiculous.

[Method]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There was a pending update to Sontalak that was activated when another perl issue in westwastes was hotfixed.

Patch notes:
Sontalak now procs Char and Molten Breath. Previously he would cast Molten Breath on a timer.

Here is one of the threads discussing it:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=171936

Working as intended now, TY

[Daldaen]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...8&postcount=16

That part certainly isn't.

People are required to go 255 MR on Sont. Even with that you're eating 20 second fears regularly.

If you were to go 120 MR / 255 FR And not be feared over half the time, that'd be incredible.

[Colgate]

the cleric in that video isn't even with a bard

[Daldaen]

He goes 70 seconds without casting a SINGLE heal on a group member...

He lets them casually get down to 20-30% and then casts a group CH. He gets feared maybe 2 times for 6 seconds each perhaps.

There is no concern about relying on a 12 second cast time spell during classic to heal. Not from a highly likely fear which would interrupt him or from the RNG having him "proc" 4-650DD AEs in that time period.

The proc rate or fire rate is not classic.
The fear resist check isn't classic either.

Sontalak was always a burn fight. Kill him in under 2-3 minutes or your cleric has no mana at the end. That's about what you see in that video.

On P99 though trying to last 3 minutes against him is just not happening. It's "bring all your DPS and zero support" right now.

[Erati]

the way he uses DA also doesnt work like that here

[teija]

Originally Posted by Method [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Working as intended now, TY

The mechanic may be right but the proc rate or something else is surely not classic.

[Tue Nov 17 01:21:50 2015] Your body combusts as the lava hits you. You have taken 650 points of damage
[Tue Nov 17 01:21:52 2015] Your body combusts as the lava hits you. You have taken 650 points of damage 2 seconds
[Tue Nov 17 01:21:56 2015] Your body combusts as the lava hits you. You have taken 650 points of damage 4 seconds
[Tue Nov 17 01:21:58 2015] Your body combusts as the lava hits you. You have taken 650 points of damage 2 seconds

2600 dmg in less then 8 seconds, Bard grp 255MR/255 FR, the classic video posted does not show this happening.

[Atmas]

The proc rate or refresh is way too high. On one of the engages my group had everyone drop from full health to 50-30% in a matter of seconds. I will have to double check logs when I get back home but I believe I saw two procs go off in a round and several in the 3 - 4 second range.

[nilbog]

The Molten Breath proc is currently set at 15%. With his attack speed, testing it around 8% seems less crazy.

[Raev]

It shouldn't be that hard for one of our classholes to go through that video and figure out when the molten breath is hitting our cleric pal. He loses a buff each time. Subtract his casts, divide by attack rate, get proc rate, etc.