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[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/23/b...ttesville.html

I guess all Asians named "Robert Lee" are offensive to snowflakes.

well trump said there was violence on both sides of the argument against taking down statues in america and millions of people wont stop calling him a nazi supporter over that alone.

[Pokesan]

fascism exploits a flaw in liberalism, since fascists want to use free speech to gain enough power to destroy it before going full Terminator on everyone. So under a liberal framework, you're caught in a trap of allowing fascists and neo-Nazis to use free speech to destroy you, or you destroy their free speech to protect yours.

[mickmoranis]

the only ones activly trying to destroy anyone in modern america tho are the anti-fascists, while the neo nazi's are not gaining any popularity, except for the reaction from the right that is saying "fine fuck you, keep the statues up, I was ok with taking them down until you started calling ME a racist, maybe you're wrong about THOSE guys too!"

So 100% of the problem comes from the left, as the reality is, we defeated racism a long time ago but you all brought it back by saying we havent, instead of trying to solve the smaller issues, locally.

Not all cops are bad.

[Raavak]

If the statues were fine being up when Obama was president then they are fine when Trump is president.

People need to stop being stupid.

[fash]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

fascists want to use free speech to gain enough power to destroy it before going full Terminator on everyone. So under a liberal framework, you're caught in a trap of allowing fascists and neo-Nazis to use free speech to destroy you, or you destroy their free speech to protect yours.

and they become the Terminator themselves.

like when the Red Army in the Bolshevik revolution labeled the orthodox christians fascist and killed them. Same with the conservatives and the pro-capitalists during the time, labeled fascists and killed. Even today, the White Army is called fascists.

Same thing in the Red Terror in Spain. They killed nuns, raped nuns, killed priests, monks, clergy, anyone involved with the christians. A lot of spanards didn't seem to like that, so they had a counter revolution. Then, they were called fascists as well. If you don't agree with us raping nuns, you're a fascist.

Germany too. Two revolutions in the weimar republic. The first time the republic stopped them. They called them fascists. Then later, the nazi party stopped them.

Bash the Fash. It's silly word games that have been going on for a long time.

[mickmoranis]

imagine all of this national discussion and violence and anger, came from 120 people carrying tiki torches...

OR

was it from the 5000 that came and violently opposed the ones who were lawfully protesting a statue, that they weren't going to stop from being torn down anyway but they wanted to gather and show their message to the country.

Congratulations on showing the country their message, liberals, because if not for you, they would have had as much expose as the gerrymandering public hearing that happened in the same city yesterday, that NOBODY CAME TO and NOBODY KNEW HAPPENED and is literally the only thing liberals should be fighting against right now if they ACTUALLY cared about racism and didnt want to just appear to care about it and be rewarded for "thinking not racistly"

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by fash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Germany too. Two revolutions in the weimar republic. The first time the republic stopped them. They called them fascists. Then later, the nazi party stopped them.

I dunno... The Nazi Party was very openly fascist. Early in Hitler's reign he copied and looked up to Mussolini.

Originally Posted by mickmoranis

imagine all of this national discussion and violence and anger, came from 120 people carrying tiki torches...

That's kind of the truth of it. These are just tiny little groups running around making big noises. They've gotten way more media and presidential coverage and than they deserve.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the statues were fine being up when Obama was president then they are fine when Trump is president.

People need to stop being stupid.

perhaps the fellows shouting 'jews will not replace us' and throwing heil salutes feel emboldened by the election of someone they consider an ally?

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's kind of the truth of it. These are just tiny little groups running around making big noises. They've gotten way more media and presidential coverage and than they deserve.

the inrony is that made no big noise at all, the left pretended its a bigger issue than it really is, becuse they are doing anything they can do to #resist trump and they think this is how you do it, but what they wound up doing was shooting themselves in the foot.

anyone who supported the left during this last week have proven themselves to be 1 of two things:

1. a person that doesn't pay attention to reality and only listens to media narratives
2. a person who wants to use race as a weapon against the president with reckless disregard for how that affects the people they pretend to support, while wanting to be rewarded with likes on social media.

[Pokesan]

i have a hard time separating the actual nazis from people who defend them so fervently but don't cosplay it

duck goes quack