You will not evade me, $name

[nilbog]

Is there a general level at which an npc should summon?

Are there special circumstances involving it?

Discuss.

[Desert]

it depends on the mob iirc. some did, some didn't.

[mitic]

lvl51+ except some yardtrashexp mobs afaik

starting at 54-55 almost every mob summoned (?)...memory is blurred

[nilbog]

For some reason I remember it being 49. I figure there are a lot more druids or necros that would know good details.

I have only found one reference to support this

[Fri Nov 10 02:35:50 2000] a forsaken revenant says 'You will not evade me Aledar'
[Fri Nov 10 02:44:38 2000] a revultant rat says 'You will not evade me Aledar'

revultant rats were always lvl 49, afaik.

[mitic]

for example, geonids (lvl 44-48) in western wastes & raptors (lvl41-44) in timorous deep can bring you up to lvl 60 solo. both mobs dont summon and have been always camped by soloing players.

so it looks like you are right nilbog

ps: (and this backs up my theory that clr+mages are the best combo 50+ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

[nilbog]

Another question... what all can you be summoned for doing?

Example: I partnered my magician with a druid in Western Wastes. He would cast snare on an Ice Burrower... and recast it over and over again, building up hate but never being summoned.

This leads me to believe that at least 1 point of damage/healing is required?

[BuzWeaver]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For some reason I remember it being 49. I figure there are a lot more druids or necros that would know good details.

I have only found one reference to support this

revultant rats were always lvl 49, afaik.

The main MOBs I recall summoning back in the day were the Blue Cobalt Drakes and Yvoclarn in Cobalt Scars. As far as where I hunted with any frequency solo with my Druid. Other Summoning Mobs I just avoided all together. Quite a few MOBs in Western Waste would Summon as well. So I'm figuring MOBs in that level range would be a good reference point.

[Aeolwind]

@Reiker: Those mobs had Call of the Zero. That was their anti-exploit.

The 2% or 100 damage is the right answer. I remember most FG's summoning, same for the IG's after the Diplomat, This hypothesis is supported by the spawn log based on levels.

• Fire Giants ranged from 47-51 in level, a 5 level spread.
• Fear mobs ranged from 48-52 in level, a 5 level spread.
• Hate mobs Ranged from 48-52 in level, a 5 level spread.

Now, it would be easy based on these facts to say that mobs 49+ would be your summoning threshold. This would leave some FG's to Summon, some IG's to summon and most planar mobs to summon.

This would also fit the sketchy recollection I have from Kunark of Dar's/Kor's/Jin's not using summon, but the frog after Dar's (Bok's)could, but not always. 57+ is the enrage barrier.

So, based on the above info. I have to put my support to > 48 being the summoning threshold.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by mitic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lvl51+ except some yardtrashexp mobs afaik

starting at 54-55 almost every mob summoned (?)...memory is blurred

no.

It is very specific, some mobs do some don't. I assume the question is being asked because the devs need to now which mobs could and couldn't summon in kunark/velious as they work on that content, so there is no "rule"...it needs to tbd mob by mob.

[Ethanblack]

Hmm, summoning always was interesting, but I always felt that it was something that should be reserved for named mobs, or at least 'special' types, like a 'shaman' amongst warrior mobs.