Is a "No Lock-Down" Rule Possible?

[loramin]

Back in the day the king camp in Sebilis was all but locked down for an extended period of time, creating a monopoly on Fungi Tunics. Going back farther, even when the server had a much lower population the mana orb camp was reportedly locked down also. And I'd imagine that more experienced P99ers can share other lock-down stories.

But here's the thing: no one I've ever met in P99 thinks players locking down a camp is a good thing (and to be clear I mean for weeks at a time, not some guy holding a camp all Saturday). The idea is universally hated, and it's also something that didn't happen (that I ever heard of at least) on live during the classic period.

So with green coming "someday", this made me wonder: why doesn't P99 have an anti-lock-down rule? Then I thought, well maybe it's impossible to write such a rule that works, is fair, and isn't a nightmare for the staff to enforce? But then again, maybe it is.

TLDR: Would it be possible to add a rule on P99 to prevent players from monopolizing camps for weeks at a time, and if so what would that rule be?

[Mead]

What camp is being locked down for weeks at a time at this point?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What camp is being locked down for weeks at a time at this point?

None, that I'm aware of. The concern is more about when Green comes out someday, as it will have mana orbs and similar targets (along with, presumably, a significantly larger server population).

EDIT: Also +1 to Baler's idea, but since I thought most rotations were entered into voluntarily, I'm not clear on how they'd be staff enforced.

[gizmo]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

None, that I'm aware of. The concern is more about when Green comes out someday

It's classic but if y'all are still playing when Green finally comes out then you got bigger concerns

[Zekayy]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

None, that I'm aware of. The concern is more about when Green comes out someday, as it will have mana orbs and similar targets (along with, presumably, a significantly larger server population).

EDIT: Also +1 to Baler's idea, but since I thought most rotations were entered into voluntarily, I'm not clear on how they'd be staff enforced.

Lol Aftermath/forsaken locked down chardok during double exp bonus till the mob limit was changed we locked it down till the exp bounus was over

But of course you plebs know nothing about this sort of thing

[Baler]

+1 for OPs idea.
Good idea but needs more detail and explanation.

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I think most of the problem is that the same people are locking down the same camps at peak population time. A lot of places are open at the lowest dip of low pop, but at that time it's difficult to find people to camp it with you.

Maybe some kind of rotation application like guilds do for raids. lol
That way the general public doesn't stand a chance to kill these mobs!
Then skarlorn can write up an open camps agreement!

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[Bones]

Manastone camp was pretty brutal on p99 but there was only like 50-200 people ever on at a time during those days so it wasn't as noticeable. People would camp it, pass it to a friend, then that friend would pass the camp back to them when they logged back on. Rinse and repeat x10. But because the population was so low and p99 was fresh and relatively unknown except to people who were already on EQEMU pretty much everybody got a chance to camp it.

If/when green99 comes out I suspect manastone and guise camps will be a clusterfook beyond imagination.

[Triiz]

I get the idea, but I don't see how it could realistically be implemented without a GM at X item camp 24 hours a day 7 days a week which obviously wont happen.

Maybe I'm just pessimistic, but from a casual standpoint I imagine camping a Manastone on a new server to be a pipe dream for 95% of the server. People always talk about how bad camping AC is 7+ years into the server, I imagine Manastone/Guise would be that multiplied by at least 100.

I mostly play EST mornings, I never really get to play during the server "prime time", there is usually ~500 people on when I log in but it wouldn't even take 100 people to keep every valuable classic item perma-camped.

If you don't play p99 80+ hours a week you are at a huge disadvantage, that's just the reality of classic eq. Poopsockers gonna poop sock.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Bones [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wasn't as noticeable.

Penoy held that camp for like 9 days and pulled dozens of manastones out of it for himself.

There was a guild that had it most of the rest of the time, do not remember their name, but it was certainly noticeable.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TLDR: Would it be possible to add a rule on P99 to prevent players from monopolizing camps for weeks at a time, and if so what would that rule be?

I finally get to write it first!!!! Sorry Loramin...

THAT'S NOT CLASSIC!

Honestly though, I see no way they could enforce such a rule. They already have guide time monopolized by trying to monitor raids, how could they even begin to start trying to watch specific camps in the game?

All this would do is create constant petitions for every camp on the server. They would have petitions sent in complaining about that loser lvl 50 necro that farms orc1 and orc2 daily every morning for 4 hours, etc.

The petitions would never end.