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Old 06-17-2011, 03:29 PM
Boomlaor Boomlaor is offline
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Default Manaskin using the wrong number of peridots

I recently dinged 52 on my wizard and discovered that Manaskin is consuming 2 pdots per cast, instead of 1 as it should. For evidence, I offer the following:

http://web.archive.org/web/200006230...://graffe.com/

Archived www.graffe.com from June of 2000. If you click on "spells" on the left it bumps you to September 18, 2000. Click on lvl 52 and find the following (bold added by me):

Quote:
Manaskin
Skill: Abjuration
Mana Required: 330
Spell Duration: 1200 ticks (2 hours)
Casting Time: 5.0 seconds
Spell Recovery: 2.25 seconds
Description: Personal shield that will absorb from 521 (L52) to 591 (L59) damage to yourself only. While it is active, it will add 1 mana point per tick (6 seconds). This spell uses a peridot when cast. Manaskin is stackable with enhancements such as Clarity and Mana Song.
I've looked on earlier versions of graffe.com and september 18, 2000 seems to be the earliest version of the "spells" portion the internet archive has, so I searched through archived patch messages.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/hist...es-2000-1.html

All patch messages from January 2000 - June 2000, no mention of manaskin.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/hist...es-2000-2.html

All patch messages from July 2000 - December 2000, no mention of manaskin.


Based on that, it is reasonable to presume that the information from graffe.com September 18, 2000 is applicable to the current point of the P99 timeline, and manaskin should only be consuming 1 peridot per cast.

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Old 06-18-2011, 09:17 PM
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It should definatly be 1 peridot.

Also the recast delay should be 0.00 seconds. The only delay this spell should have is the global coolddown of the spell bar.

Per lucy

2003-01-15 11:04 Changed Recast Time from 0.0 seconds to 2.2 seconds
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Old 06-18-2011, 09:21 PM
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P.S.

I thought i was running out of dots fast on my Necro! Can't beleive i didnt notice it was taking 2.... Once this is confirmed and changed, I would not be mad if i checked my bank one day and found a few stacks of dots! /sarcastic humor
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Old 06-19-2011, 10:41 PM
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This is definitely a 2 peridot spell, it gets changed later to single dot use
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:13 PM
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This is definitely a 2 peridot spell, it gets changed later to single dot use
This is one of those times when I scratch my head and try to really try hard to recall playing my wizard on live, this is such a small thing to really remember.

I recall it being 1 dot, as hard as I try to remember.


The links provided are a good start to showing that, Along with the fact that every single other skin spell for mage and necro uses 1 component.

If it was changed from 2 dots to 1 dot like you say, it had to have happened before late 2002 or lucy would show the change, and it doesnt.

If you really recall it being 2 dots, please try to find something that shows it. People can recall things wrong, I can as well. What we need is forum posts, wayback website links ect showing something reffering to this spell using 2 dots..

As it is right now, it looks like this should be changed to 1 dot.
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:25 PM
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I don't ever remember this spell using two Peridots. I played a wizard on live from when the game was released until Luclin came out. As others have stated, I could be wrong, but I think I'd remember something costing 20p per cast instead of 10p per cast.
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Old 07-18-2012, 11:54 PM
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/bump

1 Peridot and 1 mana a tick?

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Old 07-20-2012, 04:45 AM
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if this is true it needs to be fixed asap!
been using diamondskin because its cheaper...
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Old 07-25-2012, 12:43 PM
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if this is true it needs to be fixed asap!
been using diamondskin because its cheaper...
While the wiki doesn't mention it, the mana regen seems to be working.

Two dots is annoying though.

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Old 07-30-2012, 12:01 AM
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It was 2 dots. Sometime in between Kunark and Velious it was changed:

Kunark

Code:
Manaskin
Increase Absorb Damage from 521 (L52) to 591 (L59)
Increase Mana by 1 (L52)


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Classes: Nec (L52), Wiz (L52)

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Requires 2 Peridots as reagents

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Skill: Abjuration
Allowable Targets: Self

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Resistance Check: None

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Mana Required: 330
Spell Duration: 1200 ticks (120.0 minutes)
Duration Formula: 3
Casting Time: 5.0 seconds
Spell Recovery: 2.25 seconds

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Spell cast on you: Your skin gleams with an incandescent glow.
Spell cast on someone: Soandso's skin gleams with an incandescent glow.
Spell fades: Your skin returns to normal.
Velious

Code:
Manaskin
Increase Absorb Damage from 521 (L52) to 591 (L59)
Increase Mana by 1 (L52)


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Classes: Nec (L52), Wiz (L52)

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Requires Peridot as a reagent

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Skill: Abjuration
Allowable Targets: Self

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Resistance Check: None

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Mana Required: 330
Spell Duration: 1200 ticks (120.0 minutes)
Duration Formula: 3
Casting Time: 5.0 seconds
Spell Recovery: 2.25 seconds

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Spell cast on you: Your skin gleams with an incandescent glow.
Spell cast on someone: Soandso's skin gleams with an incandescent glow.
Spell fades: Your skin returns to normal.
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