Clarification on rules

[Darwoth]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Setting up a trade kill is legal, outright stealing shit isnt. Scamming isnt legal.

Ninja looting on a raid you were part of? I dont think thats legal either, unless youre the sole survivor and no one catches you?

in any case, thats reminds me to never invite you or your goons to a raid.

pretty sure im looking for staff clarification, not that of some random blueb.

all of the above should be legal as it comes down to players putting their trust in the proper places/paying attention or not and potentially suffering the consequences ie entirely preventable.

[Rust1d?]

Put Thex back in IMO. Leave legacy items in as well. This is classic, not K&B.

[Nizzarr]

Thats was obviously my opinions on these issues based on what the staff has previously said on the matters.

[Amelinda]

Originally Posted by Castle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Umm... 8 levels? Then why am I trying to help out a pal with my lowbie mage (12) versus a group of level 6 mages, and they are blue and out of range along with a 7 rogue unrelated to the matter?

Apparently CB has different level range or something? please fix.

And uhh...



Except for someone has a guise and someone got a manastone? Were these taken out once these people got their stuff? smells like... thex... to me..

and i'm fairly sure it's actually plus or minus 4 levels. can someone confirm that?

i don't actively play on either server. i just enforce rules and do a massive ton of work on the back end to support the game you guys love.

help Queen Amy out yo

[Darwoth]

wasnt obvious at all, you came across as speaking from a position of authority, i have seen various threads here and on the normal server boards that indicated all of the above would probably be legal on the pvp server.

im glad amelinda made this thread, will be nice to have a clear set of what is or is not allowed, just hope rogean now decides to employ a primarily hands off approach and let the players be free to make their own beds.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Amelinda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and i'm fairly sure it's actually plus or minus 4 levels. can someone confirm that?

From the main site:

PvP Range is now scaled as follows:

Levels 1 to 19: 4 Levels
Levels 20 to 39: 6 Levels
Levels 40+: 8 Levels
Combat will be allowed based on the lower level player's pvp range.

...

The following zones are now FFA PvP (They contain no PvP Level Limit):

Solusek B
Permafrost
Plane of Hate
Plane of Fear
Plane of Air
Sebilis
Veeshan's Peak

[Amelinda]

Originally Posted by Darwoth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what about if a member of a dragon/god raid who helped to kill the mob decides to ninjaloot the mob in question? after all he was part of the raid and has claim to the loot + is obviously in pvp range.

Ninja Looting
In a situation where a corpse is waiting to be unlocked for a player to loot the corpse with the permission of the player who was merited the kill, it will be against the rules for any other player to loot that corpse without permission. This is to prevent players outside a PvP level range from ninja looting. If the corpse is otherwise abandoned (if a group or raid is wiped out in the process of slaying the mob(s)), the corpse is open to be looted by anyone when possible.

Amelinda here - in this case if you ninja from your own raid IMO and rogean or any staff can correct me if i'm wrong but i think in a raid scenario we would consider the raid leader / raid collective to be the 'individual' giving permission to loot so if you take it upon yourself to gank items you'd not have permission of the raid - amirite?

Originally Posted by Darwoth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

also what if someone sets up a trade and then just kills the other trader to loot their cash? that allowed?

what about general "scams" ie someone is selling a manastone, cancels trade window and puts a pumice stone there instead, buyer doesnt pay attention and buys a pumice stone? or a jeweler makes you a diamond ring except decided he will keep your diamonds.


these are all things that will crop up sooner than later. (and should all be perfectly legal, but figured clarification would be good)

imo scamming is not okay on the server but i'm definitely going to pass these on [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Lucidus]

Maybe update the wiki. Or set rules via a uStream pointing at a magic 8 ball.

[Darwoth]

those are fine interpretations for a blue server, however i hope that is not the final word for the red server as it will kill a lot of the late game dynamic with spies and so on, even RZ had a hands off approach on those matters.

will get boring quick killing people that lose nothing but 10% of a blue per pvp death if you cant use creative thinking to do something bigger against your enemies/rivals.

[Darwoth]

also the no ninja looting to prevent out of range people from coming in and looting something appears from the initial outline of rules and now out dated and should be done away with entirely in light of the fact that all raid zones are ffa/no level limit now.

if a group from a rival guild comes in while your zerg is twiddling their thumbs over who has more bluebie points and is able to cause enough of a distraction via pvp to snag a piece of gear then that is nobodys fault but your own for not paying attention.


do not ruin the server with blue server rules.