Masks

[Kelor]

If i'm on say a gnome / rogue and i use the barbarian mask, will i gain the ability to slam with it?

[Doctor Jeff]

Nope, but if you are a barbarian rogue and use the gnome mask you'll lose the ability to slam.

[Borak]

Originally Posted by Kelor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If i'm on say a gnome / rogue and i use the barbarian mask, will i gain the ability to slam with it?

Previous post is misinformed. With barb mask you DO get the ability to slam. Unfortunately, Slam shares a cooldown with Backstab so you can only use one of the two. For rogues that makes it useless - bards that use mask can slam w/ no downsides.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Kelor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If i'm on say a gnome / rogue and i use the barbarian mask, will i gain the ability to slam with it?

Illusion to ogre/troll/barbarian: gain slam.

Illusion away from ogre/troll/barbarian: lose slam.

Note unlike slam hide/sneak/forage aren't changed by illusion.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Borak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Previous post is misinformed. With barb mask you DO get the ability to slam. Unfortunately, Slam shares a cooldown with Backstab so you can only use one of the two. For rogues that makes it useless - bards that use mask can slam w/ no downsides.

I just am curious, how does a mask add an ability to your character that he/she never has? How does the ability "slam" get added to the list of skills I mean?

I would expect the barb mask to work exactly as enchanter illusions work, meaning when you turn into a barb, you simply look like a barb, no added slam skill is granted to the character.

***Slam is not a worn effect, like for instance troll illusion grants a slight regen, that's worn. An actual melee ability which needs clicked is not a worn effect so I just want to know how a barbarian mask grants an actual button you click for slam.

[Jmcwrestling]

Barb illusion does not allow me to slam

[Triiz]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would expect the barb mask to work exactly as enchanter illusions work, meaning when you turn into a barb, you simply look like a barb, no added slam skill is granted to the character.

^This is false.

Just logged on enchanter to test it and make sure it hadn't changed. Illusion barbarian, Illusion Ogre, and Illusion Troll all currently give the ability to slam.

I casted each of the 3 illusions, went to my abilities list and added it, pulled a mob, proceeded to slam it. This worked in Barbarian Illusion, Troll illusion, and Ogre illusion. The hits registered as "You bash a..." I had non-weapons in both hands as well.

I don't have a Barbarian mask, but I would imagine it works the same.


[Tue Jul 04 18:43:34 2017] You begin casting Illusion: Barbarian.
[Tue Jul 04 18:43:36 2017] Aqua goblin tidal lord tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Tue Jul 04 18:43:37 2017] You feel different.
[Tue Jul 04 18:43:38 2017] Aqua goblin tidal lord tries to bash YOU, but misses!
[Tue Jul 04 18:43:38 2017] Aqua goblin tidal lord tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Tue Jul 04 18:43:39 2017] Aqua goblin tidal lord tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Tue Jul 04 18:43:39 2017] You bash aqua goblin tidal lord for 1 point of damage.

and Troll...

[Tue Jul 04 18:45:16 2017] You begin casting Illusion: Troll.
[Tue Jul 04 18:45:19 2017] You feel different.
[Tue Jul 04 18:45:20 2017] Aqua goblin tidal lord tries to kick YOU, but misses!
[Tue Jul 04 18:45:20 2017] Aqua goblin tidal lord tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Tue Jul 04 18:45:21 2017] You try to bash aqua goblin tidal lord, but miss!

The ogre log is to lenghty to post cuz I was rebuffing some other spells in between, but point should be made.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Jmcwrestling [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Barb illusion does not allow me to slam

Finally someone that has one and speaks from experience. Ending my month long debate with someone over this.

I just want to know how people think a mask grants an actual melee ability though, please explain that. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Jmcwrestling]

I don't spend much time illusion ed as a large race , and I was fairly certain but hey I'm willing to admit I'm wrong , he does have logs after all

[Triiz]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Finally someone that has one and speaks from experience. Ending my month long debate with someone over this.

I just want to know how people think a mask grants an actual melee ability though, please explain that. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It adds it to your abilities list, the same as a legit troll/ogre/barbarian. As soon as you click off the illusion, you no longer have the option on the list although the hotkey will remain.

Again, this is from an Enchanter's perspective. I really, really doubt the mask is different though since it is the exact same spell Illusion: Barbarian