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[AzzarTheGod]

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hurr i'm ranting.

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[maskedmelonpai]

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and ya america sucks at patient care no doubt, at least by the higher standards the best system of the world should be held to.

the real best answer for our healthcare is to remain incredibly capitalistic but also sacrifice just-enough to improve our patient care. for example pre existing conditions shouldn't be a thing, and we could save that money by not spending $16 million extending 98 year old cancer grandma's life to 99. medicaid expansion was good and more states should enjoy the same kinds the west coast has. states should be able to subsidize patient care effectively, and buy policy from out of state. not to get all death panels but voluntary euthanasia for the extremely elderly terminally ill etc would improve patient care for everyone else and we could still continue to operate in a way which is capable of funding the level of medical research the modern world demands.

i mean there's other ways, but the main big money bleeds i see in healthcare are extremely elderly dead-anyways people, morbidly obese, and malpractice cases.

fixing healthcare really also has to go along with a social shift toward improving public health. namely let's unfuck the food supply while we're at it. it really shouldn't be on the medical industry to fix the health effects of being a 4,000 mt dew calorie a day failed fat redditblob when a bit of good ol' fashioned fat shaming could do this country wonders.

hurr i'm ranting.

this a pretty good post. it echo a lotta my thoughts on healthcare. i honestly not mind paying for healthcare for hardworking people who just not all that smart so long as they contributing to society. in fact I think it a net benefit. But it morally wrong to pay for healthcare for people who not take care or worse, actively destroy theyselfs. liek with diabetes or tobacco related illnesses. no reason anyone should pay for that. it sad, but it downright wrong to fund it propagation.

[Xaanka]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/n...a-sexting.html

Anthony Weiner Pleads Guilty to Federal Obscenity Charge

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Anthony D. Weiner, the former New York Democratic congressman and candidate for mayor, leaving federal court in Manhattan on Friday. His estranged wife, Huma Abedin, was a top aide to Hillary Clinton. Credit Christopher Lee for The New York Times
Anthony D. Weiner, the former Democratic congressman whose sexting scandals ended his political career and embroiled him in a tumultuous F.B.I. investigation of Hillary Clinton before the election, pleaded guilty to a felony on Friday, crying openly as he admitted to conduct that he knew was “as morally wrong as it was unlawful.”

The plea agreement ended a federal investigation into a series of sexually explicit pictures and messages that Mr. Weiner sent last year to a 15-year-old girl in North Carolina.

It capped the long, tortured downfall of Mr. Weiner, who ruined a once-promising career in Congress and then spoiled various attempts at resurrecting his reputation, all through his uncontrolled habit of using social media and texts to send explicit images to women.

It also cost him his marriage: His estranged wife, Huma Abedin, a top aide to Mrs. Clinton, filed for divorce from Mr. Weiner on Friday in New York, according to two people with knowledge of the action.

“I engaged in obscene communications with this teenager,” Mr. Weiner said, his voice high and shaky, and his body trembling. Those communications “included sharing explicit images and encouraging her to engage in sexually explicit conduct,” just as he had done with adult women, he said.

Mr. Weiner, 52, will have to register as a sex offender where he works and lives, and he may face a prison term. He pleaded guilty to transferring obscene material to a minor, which carries a sentence of up to 10 years in prison.

Federal prosecutors said in the plea agreement that a sentence in the range of 21 to 27 months would be “fair and appropriate.” Mr. Weiner is to be sentenced on Sept. 8 in Federal District Court in Manhattan.

Mr. Weiner was led into the courtroom for the brief hearing wearing a slim navy suit with a white shirt and maroon tie; a wedding band could be seen on his left hand. He sat quietly between his lawyers, exchanging whispers with one, Arlo Devlin-Brown, and an occasional smile.

But Mr. Weiner quickly dissolved into tears as he read from a written statement when the judge, Loretta A. Preska, asked that he describe what he had done.

“I’ve given this some thought,” he told her.

As he paused to brace himself, Mr. Devlin-Brown placed a hand on his lower back to comfort him and a courtroom worker brought over a box of tissues.

Mr. Weiner told Judge Preska that from the time he was in Congress through the first half of last year, “I’ve compulsively sought attention from women who contacted me on social media, and I engaged with many of them in both sexual and nonsexual conversation.”

“These destructive impulses brought great devastation to my family and friends, and destroyed my life’s dream in public service,” he said. “Yet I remained in denial even as the world around me fell apart.”

Reports of the federal investigation surfaced in September after DailyMail.com reported that Mr. Weiner had engaged in an online relationship with the girl, which included explicit messages sent over social media and suggestive texts.

It was during the investigation that the F.B.I. seized Mr. Weiner’s electronic devices, including a laptop on which agents found a trove of emails to Ms. Abedin. That discovery led to the surprise announcement in late October by James B. Comey, then the F.B.I. director, that the bureau was conducting a new investigation into Mrs. Clinton’s handling of official email, an inquiry that ended two days before the election, with no charges brought. Mrs. Clinton recently attributed her election loss in part to Mr. Comey’s announcement.

After the guilty plea, Joon H. Kim, the acting United States attorney in Manhattan, said, “Weiner’s conduct was not only reprehensible but a federal crime, one for which he is now convicted and will be sentenced.”

Mr. Devlin-Brown said that his client had “accepted full responsibility” for his conduct, and that the resolution was “on terms far less severe than could have been sought.” He said Mr. Weiner would have no further comment and “remains focused on his recovery.”

As Judge Preska informed Mr. Weiner of his rights during the hearing, he stood with his hands together before him, listening intently. When the judge asked if he was pleading guilty because he was guilty, he responded directly, “I am guilty, your honor.”

Mr. Weiner told the court that in January 2016, he was contacted by — and began exchanging online messages with — “a stranger who said that she was a high school student, and who I understood to be 15 years old.”

“I knew this was as morally wrong as it was unlawful,” he added.

Mr. Weiner, choking up and rubbing his forehead, said that last fall he “came to grips for the first time with the depths of my sickness.”

“I — I had hit bottom,” he said. “Through treatment I found the courage to take a moral inventory of my defects.” He said he began a program of recovery and mental health treatment that he was continuing.

“I accept full responsibility for my conduct,” he told Judge Preska. “I have a sickness, but I do not have an excuse.”

Mr. Weiner said he had apologized to those he had hurt, including the teenage girl “whom I mistreated so badly, and I am committed to making amends to all those I have harmed.”

Mr. Weiner was forced to resign from Congress, where he represented parts of Queens and Brooklyn, in June 2011, not long after an explicit picture, sent from his Twitter account, became public. Mr. Weiner initially claimed that his account had been hacked but eventually admitted that he had lied and that he had sent the image and had inappropriate online exchanges with at least six other women.

An effort to resurrect his career progressed in 2013 as he began his candidacy for mayor of New York. But that, too, collapsed after the emergence of additional explicit online messages.

Mr. Weiner’s marriage to Ms. Abedin fell apart after new suggestive text messages surfaced in August, including one with an image of Mr. Weiner’s crotch as he lay next to the couple’s son, who was 4.

After the hearing, Mr. Weiner silently left the courthouse with his lawyers, ignoring a crowd of reporters and photographers as he stepped into a black Nissan and was driven away.

[Xaanka]

in Russia news

Kim Dotcom Offers Congress Evidence to Prove Seth Rich Was WikiLeaks Source

Megaupload founder and friend of Julian Assange has offered to provide Congress with written testimony and proof that murdered Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich was WikiLeaks’ source — if they will include his murder in their Russia investigation.

Kim Dotcom has also now claimed that he was involved in the leak — and that he personally knew Rich.

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http://bigleaguepolitics.com/kim-dot...ileaks-source/

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lol i called this almost a year ago go find the post

[Xaanka]

Speaking of proven foreign interference in the US election in favor of the democratic party, which lost:
What the Saudi leaks tell us: An interview with Julian Assange
https://newint.org/features/2016/03/...leaks-tell-us/


Democrat Propaganda Group Shareblue Has Ties To Chinese Government, Host Of Foreign Special Interests
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...oreign-special

and the now well known campaign contributions, speaking fees, etc taken by DNC presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton, a pretty complete picture can be drawn..

China, Mid east subvert US election using foreign money via DNC, influence over candidate

grassroots candidate beats establishment candidate in primaries

Wikileaks happens because Seth Rich bernie bro gets pissed and dumps 44,000 emails to wikileaks

DNC sloppily murder DNC leaker in an execution style "robbery" where thousands in cash and jewelry are not stolen, nor is anything, nearby his home after suspected leaker acts suspicious.

fbi refuses to cooperate with family, discourages family from hiring PI
fbi refuses to cooperate with PI
fbi refuses to hand computer over to PI and tell congress later that it has been "lost"
BAR MANAGER: COPS NEVER TALKED WITH STAFF ABOUT NIGHT SETH RICH WAS MURDERED
Statement backs claim from private investigator that police told to 'stand down'"
MSM falsely claiming family never hired PI

podesta emails directly refer to making an example of a leaker with matching timing

Ties to foreign governments publicly exposed by leaks

"it's illegal to read the emails"

"it's illegal to view the memes"

"they're just emails"

*bury head in sand*

*begins spying on incoming candidate*

*recounts that only increase Trump margin*

MUH RUSSIA PUTIN HACKED THE ELECTION

*emblazons television 24/7 with unproven conspiracy theory*

*uses unproven conspiracy theory as gridlocking tactic against incoming administration in house, senate, cabinet approvals*

*gets caught spying on current president*

*comey memo leak*

*accidentally*

*dems shitting pants and backing off russia story as fox and assange bring seth rich back up in the public mind*

hmm i wonder how this will keep playing out oh also here's a cool little background read on Comey if you don't know much about his career leading up to recent events http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=72788

[JurisDictum]

Denmark has produced proportionately more R&D than the United States since 2008. Denmark has held onto is small but consistent lead since. It seems that there was substantially improvement in R&D investment in response to the finical crisis of 2007-8.

I wrote this awhile ago when I was going over how different political economy systems handled the 2007 crash. It goes with charts from a great source called OECD. I would normally just put the chart in here but I'm not sure how to go about doing that, so here's the data I think is useful to look at:

https://data.oecd.org/chart/4QqQ

Basically when it comes to research -- America has been falling behind. This includes medical research (which companies spend a fraction on compared to advertising).

We spend more money on healthcare....something like 30% of GDP

We get worse outcomes than people that spend less

There no inherent advantage to our system -- insurance and hospitals are just very good at getting half of America to think otherwise.

Xaanka doesn't believe in our system either, and thinks we should adopt real free market healthcare. This would likely drive down costs and may even help quality in some cases. There's just one problem: we're never going to do that.

We would have to be the kind of society that lets people die that could have been saved by modern healthcare. No one serious supports that. That system is unpopular and has never been proposed. The practical impact of supporting rightist ideas of healthcare -- is to support something very similar to Obamacare.

Not that pure market Healthcare would be as affordable as many people think. Any time you need a test there is all kinds of incredibly expensive equipment and medical expertise people need access too. Healthcare is fundamentally unaffordable to a middle class with stagnate wages the last 30-40 years.

Middle and working class people are also sick of the god damn bureaucracy of healthcare. This is completely private sector shit -- but its worse than the steotypical DMV (ours actually run well in Oregon) and at least just as important. Bureaucracy, I hope the right of this country learns quick, is a private sector problem too. Any time there is a seperation between owner and management...which is like every large corporation these days.

[Xaanka]

serious question i don't know the answer to, how is _rare disease_ research in denmark and have any noteworthy advancements been made? we're pretty close to curing aids over here but really there isn't much else.

[JurisDictum]

10 things Danes brag about to prospective students abroad:

https://discoverstudyabroad.org/2014...k-is-proud-of/

. Pure Yeast: The year 1887 brought excitement to beer drinkers of Denmark, when Dr. Emil Christian Hansen discovered a method of creating pure yeast, ending the beer disease that plagued the country years before. This method changed everything for the industry, and the new yeast was rightfully named as Saccharmoyces Carlsbergensis.

So their basically responsible for beer as we know it.

Edit: I just want to point out, I don't understand why anyone would think democratic socialist countries wouldn't do well in science or medical research. They tend to do damn well at that sort of stuff. If anything their weakness is software innovation. Although, I think Poland gave Obama a copy of Witcher 2 to show off. But Obama doesn't game, he golfs.

[mickmoranis]

Dear Readers: this is a great docco to get caught up in understanding all teh forum posters you think are mentally unstable.

[Lune]

Speaking of building walls

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