Should the server provide "Best of the Best" style PvP + rewards?

[Laugher]

I like this idea- itd give a platform for official victories/losses to be highlighted, perhaps a rookie bracket for 50-55 and a pro bracket 56-60; could do one a week of varyingteam sizes (ex week 1 2v2 week 2 4v4) in a given month. TnF vids were one of the reasons i ended up playing here in the first place, why not continue to give players the opportunity to showcase themselves and their skills in a youtubed weekly tourney

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want to put together a comprehensive list of rules, regulations, team sizes, restrictions, allowed equipment, tactics, and items, we may be able to get something like this put together.

Just laying out the logistics alone for this kind of event is a nightmare once a month let alone once a week. You can find my 2v2 duelist tournament thread from a while back over on blue to get an idea of how extensive these "any class vs any class team battles" can be, because there are so many different equipment scenarios/items to consider that may be "unfair" or will just make the fight boring.

For the equipment, would it be possible to make it so that everyone in the 6v6 and 12v12 fights automatically zones into the fight with the same equipment, as determined by their class?

That would make it extremely easy with regards to "balancing". Then for the 24v24 fights, it would just be anything goes, which also doesn't require any additional balancing.

[Psykes]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For the equipment, would it be possible to make it so that everyone in the 6v6 and 12v12 fights automatically zones into the fight with the same equipment, as determined by their class?

This would require all people involved that are signed up to have extensive no rent gear created for each individual class, or create a plether of items to be spawned. Usually when spawning items you have to do them individually unless they are created in a seperate data base to pull from pre-spawn that was written before the event.

On my server, I did custom class/races for individuals, gear and the like....it was quite tedious but it made it fun for the individuals that played there....we had Vah Shir Paladins, Dark Elf Rangers, Wood Elf Clerics, Troll Monks...hell even had some people as Centaurs, goblins & Aviaks as their race...and had to change the gear pieces themselves to fit the race/class combos for each person.

[Kergan]

Hmm a game with arena style pvp where everyone has access to the same gear and skill is the determining factor in victory.

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[Zuranthium]

Counterstrike is hardly the epitome of skill-based gameplay.

Also, some people simply enjoy a fantasy setting. What's also great about this genre is that it can inherently create a greater depth of gameplay in PvP because "magic" allows you to create a whole myriad of different characters and effects, which leads to a great amount team tactics and character interplay.

Originally Posted by Psykes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This would require all people involved that are signed up to have extensive no rent gear created for each individual class.

Thanks for that info.

Wouldn't it actually be very easy, though, to simply add items into the game database called "PvP Short Sword of the Ykesha" and so forth, that are just clones of existing items with no-Rent tags?

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Counterstrike is hardly the epitome of skill-based gameplay.

http://www.esportsearnings.com/games

Agree to disagree.

[Gaffin 7.0]

cs is all skill son gtfo

[HippoNipple]

This shit isn't happening. Just pk for fun and give up on trying to get GMs to make some artificial setting to make people play with you. EQ is supposed to be somewhat of a sandbox. Do your own shit.

[Zuranthium]

Why are you pointing to a money chart as if that equals skill in gaming, Kergan?

Also, there are different skills in gaming. Things like Magic: the Gathering are purely cognitive, whereas shooters and other games aren't as much about that and instead also measure physical aim/reflexes/how quickly and constantly you can click buttons or a movement pad.

Then you have things like Guild Wars 1, the best PvP game ever, which combines the cognitive "deck building" and decision-making of Magic the Gathering with real-time play and extensive teamwork.

Everquest PvP has some things in common with Guild Wars 1. All spell casters have a "skill bar" of 8 skills, so you need to make decisions before the fight about exactly what you want on your skill bar. There are many classes to choose from, so you also have to think about your team composition, and once you get into the fight there is the melee/caster/debuff/healer dynamic happening.

Everquest PvP is extremely primitive compared to Guild Wars 1 PvP, of course, but the greater focus of this style of gameplay for Red99 is actually to improve the entire game as a whole. If you limit the amount of people per guild who are able to compete for these "Best of the Best" prizes (which should be hard-to-acquire PvE items), then we would see a greater number of guilds in the game. There wouldn't be as much incentive to form the giant zerg guilds, because the players wouldn't be getting the benefits.

With zerg guilds extinct, the entire game would become more involving for everyone. The PvE side would become more of an actual game again, because you'd have less people to use and would need to actually put more thought and strategy into fights, and World-based PvP would become much more constant and exciting.

[Mac Drettj]

Didn't read

What's the elevator pitch?