Drusella Player Agreement?

[Triangle]

Originally Posted by Hibbs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well there seems to be a lot of plot holes in this story, but you can see Rover (your group member) punch DS first. Its a hot camp right now and I can see how things can get heated but after you guys engaged it I feel like it was wrong of them to out DPS you for the kill and take it.

If they felt like it was their camp then they should have called you on stealing their camp / Mobs and petitioned on you. Not take it into their own hands and secure the kill by KS'ing it.

Get some fresh air.

Fresh air tomorrow =).

The story was more like a synopsis, I admit. However and in all seriousness, if you point to areas of the event that you have questions about, then I will do my best to answer/elaborate.

[DMN]

You want to level a monk/necro all the way up just to steal a camp? And they have a necro and monk already in the to-be-trained group who could just FD and hold the camp on their own post-train attempt? I don't think you've thought your "clever" plan through.

[Teppler]

What happened to Triangle is a big issue on this server and I hope this situation is taken care of.

When you’re fd you clearly aren’t engaging your mobs and if you had to fd them then there’s an implication that you couldn’t handle the engagement and had to disengage.

Possibly the biggest issue is people don’t understand the difference between casual courtesy they usually receive in non pressured situations vs what the rules really are when things are contested.

[Heebs13]

Sometimes I think Roegan is a psychology professor and p99 is some sort of social experiment.

[Triangle]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What happened to Triangle is a big issue on this server and I hope this situation is taken care of.

When you’re fd you clearly aren’t engaging your mobs and if you had to fd them then there’s an implication that you couldn’t handle the engagement and had to disengage.

Possibly the biggest issue is people don’t understand the difference between casual courtesy they usually receive in non pressured situations vs what the rules really are when things are contested.

Yes to put it into perspective, I realize that waiting for a group to wipe and leapfrogging them thereafter is a dick move. However, in the case where a camp is perma camped (quite literally, BG has kept a presence for over 60 hours straight), what are you supposed to do other than wait until they decide to leave if you want the quest item as well? Can one guild hold down a camp for months even if they wipe, until they decide to leave? They would be able to if it is not considered a wipe so long as they have someone FD and a cleric camped out ready to rez everybody within 10 minutes.

I think the most damning thing for BG here is they attempted to, and succeeded, in enforcing the same rules against Kelzeraz that they now say don't apply to them - indeed, making their DS kill a killsteal.

Finally, DMN's post about monk/necro plan appears to be in response to a hypothetical in a since-removed post.

[Legidias]

Everyone knows leapfrogging is a dick move but just label it as competition and ignores it when they do it (and scream when its done to them).

[LazyHydras]

TIL from this thread: Kelz's neckbeard rivals that of Merlin's.

[Uuruk]

New progression servers about to launch

[Triangle]

Just as an update - BG guild leader contacted me today. He is the OP in this thread, by the way.

Long and the short of the conversation is he thinks I am wrong, tried to convince me he is right, then explained that I should not submit this to the GMs (even though he is willing to offer nothing as a compromise) because they are overburdened. I told him I agreed they are overburdened and asked him to suggest a compromise proposal. This was word for word his response:

I propose its dropped and we move on. You wait patiently for the camp like I did and when it is fully spawned you can contest it."

Basically, you were wrong, we were right to KS you - go away and come back in 1 month when we decide to leave the camp. Until then, there is no possibility of you getting the camp because we can never wipe unless everyone is dead (fd's don't count) AND also the entire camp must be spawned for a reasonable period of time (this was another part of the conversation, even if camp is full spawn and they have only a few people fd, they argue even MORE time, a "reasonable amount", needs to be provided to them to pull the mobs).

May post screenshots of the convo later if BG contests the veracity of the conversation.

Three words to summarize their argument: Crock of Shit

[Teppler]

What’s the main point of BGs argument? I think they’re gonna get wrecked on this. IMO they owe you 200-300k on that.