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First off, yes, by and large, the majority of us do not want that play style. We join BDA because it is advertised and lives up to being a casual raiding guild. Secondly, no, your playstyle is not wrong. I never said it was wrong. I said that it is not the play style we seek. There are two major differences between those two things. In one case, the first, I'd be saying that what you are doing is morally reprehensible. No, I am not saying that. You clearly enjoy the hardcore competition, the cutthroat behavior, and that's just fine. Some people like League of Legends, others don't. It doesn't make you right or wrong for liking something. Third, I will state for a fact that many of us don't like this play style. You all may enjoy waking up at 3am while trying to get sleep for work, to drag yourself to your computer, and race for a mob. You all just might, and again (see above), that's fine. The rest of us don't. The others of us, the casuals of us do not enjoy doing that shit. That isn't the classic we seek. But that's the classic that is created when you have tyranny forcing their play style upon others on the server just to see content. Lastly, do not make the fallacy of equating the fact that BDA has people who are willing to play your game, with BDA having people who want to play your game. The vast majority of people in BDA come to this game to have a lot of fun with a group of friends in a relaxed raiding environment. It is purely because of people like You, that we have to do shit like batphone, just so see the content. In return, we try to be as relaxed and and fun loving as possible given the requirement to do what hardcores do just to see the content. So, please try to read what I have written, and understand the words, rather than lashing out. You are saying that just because we do what we are forced to do by your system that you force down our throats, that we want that system. That is not correct. Quote:
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That is why I fully supported Rogean's Plan. Not only because there exist years of scientific research that are applicable to these types of situations, and that Rogean's is one of the strongest forms for a lasting resolution of conflict, but that it lets each side do what they want with their share of the toys, and balance is preserved so long as neither side gets more greedy. Let each play the way they want, all month long, rather than playing the way they want, only for the first week, or first two weeks, or what have you. That way, each side plays the game they want, relives their classic experience, and never has to delve into the other style's atmosphere. It is, with certainly, what will bring about conflict. The current resolution and agreement is a great step, but it still has casuals playing the hardcore game for a hefty portion of the month, and this will not, and there is absolutely no scientific or logical reason to think it will, create lasting reduction in conflict between guilds. | |||||
Last edited by Uteunayr; 01-06-2014 at 01:01 PM..
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Also you have typed roughly 100k words on this subject. It was finally time to bust the chops of this young lawyer. We live in the twitterverse, deal
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Last edited by radditsu; 01-06-2014 at 01:44 PM..
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Couple guilds shit the server up, in response the GMs give them more merbs!!!!! Eeeerrrmmmaaaggghheeerd. Time for a changing of the guard with the CSR staff. You cater to the 15% I'd imagine mostly because they donate. If that's the case call a spade a spade "deruken" and tell us you are catering to the people that financially support the server. That way we at least know this is a pay to win server.
Status quo unflinching. Thank you to Div/taken/Ateam and the other guilds not part of the inner circle for trying to unseat hitler and Stalin. Come up with a plan together they said, we'll enforce it they said. Hehe nvm "The staff"( read FE) came up with an awesome plan and YOU ARE GONNA LIKE IT damnit. Oh we hedged with the "ongoing talks" farce too. | ||
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Now the more interesting thing is, people that typically leave lower tier raid guilds for guilds such as IB/TMO/FE rarely ever return to their lower tier raiding. | |||
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Also, AFAIK FE has sold just one epic MQ, a Maestro hand. Another note... I think having at least some epics be sold as MQs gives epic access to people that couldn't get them otherwise. If the raid scene is going to open up and more people will have access to these drops (than before!), that should hopefully cut down on the people that NEED to buy them; many will get them free when they wait their turn, others could choose to buy them. | |||
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Hardcores have lost their exclusivity, which I believe so many of them thrived on... I predict that many of them will get bored and move on now that casual scum will be able to get their hands on much of the same coveted loot that used to immediately identify them as being among the elite. Maybe Velious will come in time, maybe it won't ... There's also a high road now; one that doesn't lead the kinder, gentler guilds into their ugly trap of rampant asshattery. <narrowly resists quoting Stairway to Heaven> | |||
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So many words in this thread.
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I hate Chest for making me agree with TMO for the first time in my life.
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Fun fact: FE was formed because of Chest's inability to compromise.
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