Primal Avatar Spell

[Daldaen]

This is currently on the Beta Gnomes and I would imagine is dropping in Sleeper's Tomb.

This is confirmed, NOT CLASSIC. Primal Avatar should not enter game until LATE Velious.

It doesn't exist in the spell data from April 2001, nor any of the spell website lists from August 2001. Nor is any mention of the spell made pre-2002 on Allakhazam.

EQCasters August 2001

First mention I can find is September 2001:

EQCleric September 2001

My guild has killed MOTG 3 times and gotten a 2H primal each time, killed PROG once and received the spell Primal Avatar but no weapons.

[Tapatio]

Doesn't exactly prove that it was non existent, unless your basing it solely off the absence of spell file.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Tapatio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doesn't exactly prove that it was non existent, unless your basing it solely off the absence of spell file.

Based off the fact the spell isn't present in the 2001 January or April spell files.

[Tapatio]

Forgive me if I'm wrong but I remember reading a thread disputing those spell files as "beta" values. Is that true or is that just urban myth?

[Grimjaw]

EQTraders

Back in the late-Velious/early-Luclin era, a lot of complaints were raised about this inequity. It was explained that this scroll was added to Sleeper's Tomb after the initial launch of the zone, in order to appease shaman who felt that the Primal weapons were eliminating their need for the Avatar spell

[Technique]

Originally Posted by Tapatio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Forgive me if I'm wrong but I remember reading a thread disputing those spell files as "beta" values. Is that true or is that just urban myth?

p99's current spell file was sourced from the pre-release spdat dated 3/14/00 that shipped on the Kunark CD, which has led to many discrepancies between spells on p99 and those in post-release Kunark spdats and onwards.

Anyway, he's talking about post-release velious spdats, which might as well be gospel truth for all intents and purposes. Primal Avatar doesn't exist in the 4/04/01 spdat, but it does in the Trilogy release spdat dated 8/22/01.

[nilbog]

If we can approximate a date, I will add a rule to not drop until that time.

[Technique]

From the SC........


http://forums.interealms.com/shaman/...threadid=14405


Dropping in Sleeper's.......and me without a key /sigh.



Nixx says, "Primal Avatar?! Yep...Everything is the same as Avatar, except it doesn't cost an emerald. This new spell got patched to test sometime last week, I pretty much figured it was a new proc on Primal weapons, but I guess I was wrong! The spell being NO DROP really makes me think that it is not a bug, and that the spell is supposed to drop there."

Last edited by Forty; 06-27-2001 at 11:14 AM.

http://forums.hossguild.org/showthre...-NO-DROP-spell

The Shaman's Crucible thread isn't archived.

Also, some Japanese guild's ST raid summary dated 7/22/01 showing that it dropped

[Daldaen]

Late June/Early July sounds about right.

6-7 months in.

[Tapatio]

good work