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Old 09-30-2012, 11:22 PM
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Default Necro +CHA / -CHA

Is there an actual body of information that tells us definitively if necros are impacted in ANY way shape or form by having +CHA or -CHA? I currently run 19 charisma on my necro and it seems like it doesn't hurt my charm times or fear rates or anything like that, the only thing I can see it sucking for is selling shit.

Any input? I was motivated by the enc CHA thread to ask this.
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:31 AM
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doesnt do shit for necros


doesnt do shit for druids either
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:23 AM
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go do some homework necro talk has posted how -cha has no effect towards duration of fear, it was always speculation and hear say. Surprised people still believe ^^

+cha helped for necros till the developers "tweaked" how necro charm works on p99
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:26 AM
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doesnt do shit for necros


doesnt do shit for druids either
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:50 AM
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go do some homework necro talk has posted how -cha has no effect towards duration of fear, it was always speculation and hear say. Surprised people still believe ^^

+cha helped for necros till the developers "tweaked" how necro charm works on p99
When was this changed? Do you have relevant patch notes? Want to see it if its true.
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Old 10-01-2012, 03:49 AM
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I've logged many hours with charmed pets in HS... I've seen max duration charms, I've seen 2 second charms...

My conclusion is that charm duration is random. I've seen no change with or without shaman +cha buff.

I'd love to see the formula behind the spell though.

=if(playerhastotakeamajorshit)(charmbreak)
=if(grouppullsmorethanexpected)(charmbreak)
=if(playermana<15%)(charmbreak)

I mean, does it not seem as if charmed pets are cognizant to surrounds and break at the worst moment ever? That's the risk involved with using charmed pets, and its why EQ is great.
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Old 10-01-2012, 04:18 AM
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Like others have said, CHA is useless now (unless buying/selling))
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:32 AM
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It was explicitly stated that Necromancer and Druid Charisma no longer have any effect whatsoever on undead or animal charm, in patch notes that I am too lazy to link.
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:07 PM
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It definitely seems to affect undead lulls. I always un-equip my hand of the reaper before I cast them and it seems to make a big difference whether I get resisted or not.
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:46 PM
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http://wiki.project1999.org/Statistics#Charisma (CHA)

Brad McQuaid: "CHA: affects amount you will be paid for goods by NPC merchants, and how much they will pay you; affects the saving throw on certain bard and enchanter spells (charms in particular)."
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