A Concerned Citizen Writes...

[Deverell]

I think a change will become especially important in Velious. Raiding isn't that great in Kunark, and you can be really well geared without ever doing anything more demanding than PoH/PoF trash clears for your planar set, but Velious is the expansion that raiders really care for because the raid content there is the best ever in the history of the game. It's also the point where Everquest changes so that you can't be well-geared without raiding. If, by then, the server still has a population that could fill 5+ raid guilds, I think that'll be the time to look into ways of accomodating more people. Velious is pretty underwhelming if you can't raid, but Kunark is fine because Sebilis, Charasis, Chardok and epics are really the high points of that expansion. Who will be satisfied with Velks and Siren's Grotto? Velious is the raid expansion, and excluding all but the top two guilds then would be a mistake.

[Flunklesnarkin]

There is also plenty of quests to do for non raiders ;p

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Ikonoclastia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sit there for 48 hours max

Try 96 hours, its +/-48hrs, so 48 hours on either side of exactly 7 days.

Visually, it looks like this:

+----------|----+----|
kill............5D....7D....9D
...............entire window

On Live, the mob would spawn at the plus sign* ( + ), here the mob can spawn anywhere between the pipes ( | ). Each dash ( - ) represents 12 hours. From this visual representation, you can see that a 7-day mob is "in window" (able to spawn) for ~44% of the 9-day "must spawn" window.

*Barring patches/server restarts, you could show up 7-days later like clockwork and kill the thing again.

[Kevlar]

Originally Posted by Deverell [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think a change will become especially important in Velious. Raiding isn't that great in Kunark, and you can be really well geared without ever doing anything more demanding than PoH/PoF trash clears for your planar set, but Velious is the expansion that raiders really care for because the raid content there is the best ever in the history of the game. It's also the point where Everquest changes so that you can't be well-geared without raiding. If, by then, the server still has a population that could fill 5+ raid guilds, I think that'll be the time to look into ways of accomodating more people. Velious is pretty underwhelming if you can't raid, but Kunark is fine because Sebilis, Charasis, Chardok and epics are really the high points of that expansion. Who will be satisfied with Velks and Siren's Grotto? Velious is the raid expansion, and excluding all but the top two guilds then would be a mistake.

You can get your armor sets in velious clearing trash in kael arena or NTOV though. Its even easier than original to get decently geared. Granted the loots are a lot better off the bosses, but you still need to farm gear sets to be able to kill the bosses. Well, except for the zerg guilds.

[falkun]

Skyshrine (dragon) armor is out of the Halls of Testing (ToV - East Wing). Kael (giant) armor looks like it can drop in NToV and West Wing, at least according to Allah's archived page. However, the Live version of the page lists ToV - West Wing as the location for Kael armor drops. And you do not need NToV (or any of ToV) for the gems for turn-ins.

I think the greatest thing I'm looking forward to about Velious raiding is the 32kHP cap gets lifted, so these 10second DPS burns on bosses will end and we'll get to see some endurance fights. I will feel sorry for the clerics, gogo CH-chain.

[Ikonoclastia]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Try 96 hours, its +/-48hrs, so 48 hours on either side of exactly 7 days.

Visually, it looks like this:

+----------|----+----|
kill............5D....7D....9D
...............entire window

On Live, the mob would spawn at the plus sign* ( + ), here the mob can spawn anywhere between the pipes ( | ). Each dash ( - ) represents 12 hours. From this visual representation, you can see that a 7-day mob is "in window" (able to spawn) for ~44% of the 9-day "must spawn" window.

*Barring patches/server restarts, you could show up 7-days later like clockwork and kill the thing again.

Yeah that's even worse then. In the Play Nice Raid post they said it was to promote fairness and competition, it certainly doesn't seem to be doing that. Maybe time to set it back to classic mode.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Shiftin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is pretty hilarious considering your guildleader has personally broken more raid rules than any person playing on this server and it's not even close. Revisionist history FTW!

argument ad populum fallacy.

We require logic and evidence now that your lame guild is gone =)

[Shiftin]

The dozen times we frapsed him pulling aggro on trak to feed it life taps, the suspension for AEing the VS train you took because of him and him taking triggered sky mobs doesn't count? That proof has been posted boatloads of times buddy.

[Nizzarr]

I havent read the thread but on red theres none of that blue drama, there's almost no issue with raids mobs at all.

To the victor belongs the spoil!

[quido]

Originally Posted by Shiftin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The dozen times we frapsed him pulling aggro on trak to feed it life taps, the suspension for AEing the VS train you took because of him and him taking triggered sky mobs doesn't count? That proof has been posted boatloads of times buddy.

Let's see those dozen frapses. I've never seen one.

QQ

p.s. you have a small penis