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[Rydar]

Sit back kiddies:

Holo owned off the server, zero bawses killed, multiple members suspended for illegal activities. Crying mucho. Reduced to "contesting" lguk with founding fathers because they know what happenes when they enter a raid zone with Nihilum for them bawses.

and then there was starwarstime

The End

[Haul]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not even worth responding too. You're mad, takin your stupidity out on us.

We're not responsible for your mistakes.

But in case anyone else is confused that isn't blinded by rage over banned accounts, I said nothing about pvp, or being against anyone that pvps you moron. Its people that are plainly against the health and longevity of the server that I don't like.

I moved on shortly after it happened, am not mad. Sure I felt betrayed by some members but, lol anger is only temporary for spiritually mature people. Also we've known each other longer than that Destin. Don't give me some bull shit "You're mad, takin your stupidity out on us" line [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Class it up a bit for someone you played with often. I never took a personal shot at you.

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Eventually, the injustice of the Holo ban was overturned, and around 30-40% of the holo members returned, undergeared to nihilum, and underleveled. Immediately they stormed Sol B where nihilum was freely farming Efreeti, and wiped them. People were confused. Why is there PVP happening on this server? Isn't this blue server 2.0? What is going on? Threads were made, people were mad. Guk was stormed and more people died. Again, people were confused. Why are people dying? Nagafen was known to be popping, and Holo wiped Nihilum (nihilum was still pretty small at the time compared to their present size) and brought in Uprising to try to take out Nagafen. While they got him to 6-8%, they couldn't pull it off, and the next day Uprising decided to basically merge with Nihilum.

...

In short, waah, waah and more bullshit and excuses.

Nihilum had close to 2x numbers for about 3-4 weeks.

Holo contested Naggy several times with nearly equal force, and lost horribly (oh its gear its gear, oh they got more levelzzzzz...)

PoFear started, Nihilum rolled Holo all week long with equal or lesser numbers, causing Holo great amounts of sorrow, shame and grief after being stomped and camped, thus Holo numbers began dropping, "OGs" too ashamed to log on.

Holocaust's dwindling numbers were replaced by new members and old members whose psychological wounds from pvp domination had healed over time.

Enter present day. With less numbers, Nihilum curbstomped Holo at Naggy causing guildwide rage logs. Days later, Holo flees before smaller forces of Nihilum in every venue, not the least of which was Plane of Fear.

tldr, Nihilum is winning. They are a better guild, attract more players of better character, more dedication to guild and each other (often labeled bluebies by reddies who are killed by them). Nihilum is able to recruit and manage a bigger better guild, with greater coordination in every aspect of the game.

Holo needs to stop shitting up the forums with their sorry excuse for verbal pvp (forum warrioring) and l2guild, l2play and l2stop whining.

Lets do this thing.

[mostbitter]

who are you trying to convince us or yourself?

[Rikimeru]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sit back kiddies, pull up a log and sit by the fire, let me tell you a story.

It was back in December, holo and nihilum had equal numbers at the time and lovely had just quit. Holo controlled Guk, and Nihilum controlled Sol B. If you were a member of Holo you knew if you tried to go to the LS area by yourself you were going to get murked, and vice versa for Nihilum in Guk. The areas were defended and used for gearing/leveling. Often, nightly, one guild would invade the other and mass PVP for the sake of PVP would ensue. Fun was had and numerous corpses were left at the end. You see, mass guild vs. guild PVP happened for no other reason than to have mass guild PVP.

Nihilum had been clearing Naggy up to this point using the Lovely wall exploit learned from beta, but now that Holo had caught up in levels, they began contesting Nihilum's ability to kill Naggy. Epic PVP battles took place, usually resulting in Holo winning, but ultimately being unable to seal the deal on the dragon.

PVP was happening, fun was being had, there was fear when you walked into zones of getting PVPed, things were cool. Then one day Holo somehow got the wall exploit infoz. They pwned Nihilum @ LS when naggy popped, sat on their bodies, and walled Nagafen and killed him. Then suddenly, perhaps Star Wars beta ended or something, Rogean popped up, disbanded Holo, permaed it's officers, banned the members for 2 weeks who were at the raid, and, contrary to his own policy, announced the action to the server.

After this, the majority of the OG Holo quit the game, disgusted at what had occurred, and the others mostly took a hiatus. Nihilum began to slowly grab up members as there was no other true guild at the time, IF had slowly been falling apart and Los Banditos/FF/Whatever their tag was that day of the week, were still non-factors back then.

Nihilum had basically become geared/max 50 by this point, and didn't play much outside of BAWSES at this point. The world started to become empty, and devoid of PVP. Uprising popped up and basically started tagging everyone that talked. It became sort of a Global OOC guild. Every zone was basically safe, and there rarely was PVP outside of the few Nihilum who would try to camp MS, Natural / Killjoy / Alche (lol he was Lewis?) / Nacho. The PVP server had basically turned blue.

Eventually, the injustice of the Holo ban was overturned, and around 30-40% of the holo members returned, undergeared to nihilum, and underleveled. Immediately they stormed Sol B where nihilum was freely farming Efreeti, and wiped them. People were confused. Why is there PVP happening on this server? Isn't this blue server 2.0? What is going on? Threads were made, people were mad. Guk was stormed and more people died. Again, people were confused. Why are people dying? Nagafen was known to be popping, and Holo wiped Nihilum (nihilum was still pretty small at the time compared to their present size) and brought in Uprising to try to take out Nagafen. While they got him to 6-8%, they couldn't pull it off, and the next day Uprising decided to basically merge with Nihilum.

Nihilum now had approx. three times the members of Holo, more gear, more levels, and a lot of poopsockers. Some more holo members quit at this point, disgusted with the way the server was turning out, and PVP continued to dwindle.


This is the story of the server basically. There was once a rich and vibrant world of PVP, Holo vs. Nihilum, IF/Flowers etc., in many mid-level zones, fear when you zoned into somewhere. It has been replaced by a zerg guild that logs off outside of raids, empty zones, no PVP underneath level 42, and Holo fighting FF a lot. Sounds like we are truly having a better time now than before.


Note: There have been literally only two mass guild vs. guild PVP battles since the Holo banning, which were the night they came back when they killed Nihilum @ Naggy, and the time we stayed up till about 2am trying to do Naggy. Two mass PVP battles in four months. You be the judge.

well if you dont like the nihi zerg stop shittin up the server. the more you guys douche up the server the more numbers it adds to the nihi zerg.

[Haul]

Originally Posted by fiegi 2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Heartbrand pretty spot on

RIP KETO NAIKON KRINGE etc

Agreed. Shout outs too for me getting recognition of being 1 of the 3 early Nihilum who actually pvped w/o huge numbers to back me. I'd add Hectorchrist to the list too. Is funny how when Nihilum absorbed Uprising it changed Nihilum and the server so much. I was never in support of tagging them all because Uprising was terribad and fair weather. Our numbers were strong and we didn't even need more people anyway, but if the officers want a Zerg guild at the dismay of the long-time members it really doesn't matter what the members want.

[Haul]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In short, waah, waah and more bullshit and excuses.

Nihilum had close to 2x numbers for about 3-4 weeks.

Holo contested Naggy several times with nearly equal force, and lost horribly (oh its gear its gear, oh they got more levelzzzzz...)

PoFear started, Nihilum rolled Holo all week long with equal or lesser numbers, causing Holo great amounts of sorrow, shame and grief after being stomped and camped, thus Holo numbers began dropping, "OGs" too ashamed to log on.

Holocaust's dwindling numbers were replaced by new members and old members whose psychological wounds from pvp domination had healed over time.

Enter present day. With less numbers, Nihilum curbstomped Holo at Naggy causing guildwide rage logs. Days later, Holo flees before smaller forces of Nihilum in every venue, not the least of which was Plane of Fear.

tldr, Nihilum is winning. They are a better guild, attract more players of better character, more dedication to guild and each other (often labeled bluebies by reddies who are killed by them). Nihilum is able to recruit and manage a bigger better guild, with greater coordination in every aspect of the game.

Holo needs to stop shitting up the forums with their sorry excuse for verbal pvp (forum warrioring) and l2guild, l2play and l2stop whining.

Lets do this thing.

Dude you can't type tldr then put up a wall of text o.o

[Gongshow]

Originally Posted by heartbrand

Sit back kiddies, pull up a log and sit by the fire, let me tell you a story.

It was back in December, holo and nihilum had equal numbers at the time and lovely had just quit. Holo controlled Guk, and Nihilum controlled Sol B. If you were a member of Holo you knew if you tried to go to the LS area by yourself you were going to get murked, and vice versa for Nihilum in Guk. The areas were defended and used for gearing/leveling. Often, nightly, one guild would invade the other and mass PVP for the sake of PVP would ensue. Fun was had and numerous corpses were left at the end. You see, mass guild vs. guild PVP happened for no other reason than to have mass guild PVP.

Nihilum had been clearing Naggy up to this point using the Lovely wall exploit learned from beta, but now that Holo had caught up in levels, they began contesting Nihilum's ability to kill Naggy. Epic PVP battles took place, usually resulting in Holo winning, but ultimately being unable to seal the deal on the dragon.

PVP was happening, fun was being had, there was fear when you walked into zones of getting PVPed, things were cool. Then one day Holo somehow got the wall exploit infoz. They pwned Nihilum @ LS when naggy popped, sat on their bodies, and walled Nagafen and killed him. Then suddenly, perhaps Star Wars beta ended or something, Rogean popped up, disbanded Holo, permaed it's officers, banned the members for 2 weeks who were at the raid, and, contrary to his own policy, announced the action to the server.

After this, the majority of the OG Holo quit the game, disgusted at what had occurred, and the others mostly took a hiatus. Nihilum began to slowly grab up members as there was no other true guild at the time, IF had slowly been falling apart and Los Banditos/FF/Whatever their tag was that day of the week, were still non-factors back then.

Nihilum had basically become geared/max 50 by this point, and didn't play much outside of BAWSES at this point. The world started to become empty, and devoid of PVP. Uprising popped up and basically started tagging everyone that talked. It became sort of a Global OOC guild. Every zone was basically safe, and there rarely was PVP outside of the few Nihilum who would try to camp MS, Natural / Killjoy / Alche (lol he was Lewis?) / Nacho. The PVP server had basically turned blue.

Eventually, the injustice of the Holo ban was overturned, and around 30-40% of the holo members returned, undergeared to nihilum, and underleveled. Immediately they stormed Sol B where nihilum was freely farming Efreeti, and wiped them. People were confused. Why is there PVP happening on this server? Isn't this blue server 2.0? What is going on? Threads were made, people were mad. Guk was stormed and more people died. Again, people were confused. Why are people dying? Nagafen was known to be popping, and Holo wiped Nihilum (nihilum was still pretty small at the time compared to their present size) and brought in Uprising to try to take out Nagafen. While they got him to 6-8%, they couldn't pull it off, and the next day Uprising decided to basically merge with Nihilum.

Nihilum now had approx. three times the members of Holo, more gear, more levels, and a lot of poopsockers. Some more holo members quit at this point, disgusted with the way the server was turning out, and PVP continued to dwindle.


This is the story of the server basically. There was once a rich and vibrant world of PVP, Holo vs. Nihilum, IF/Flowers etc., in many mid-level zones, fear when you zoned into somewhere. It has been replaced by a zerg guild that logs off outside of raids, empty zones, no PVP underneath level 42, and Holo fighting FF a lot. Sounds like we are truly having a better time now than before.


Note: There have been literally only two mass guild vs. guild PVP battles since the Holo banning, which were the night they came back when they killed Nihilum @ Naggy, and the time we stayed up till about 2am trying to do Naggy. Two mass PVP battles in four months. You be the judge..

Literally like 98% spot on hardcore truth. Ya'll just got Trayvon'd with a truth bullet.

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by Haul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude you can't type tldr then put up a wall of text o.o

I should have shortened it for those struggling through community college.

[Haul]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I should have shortened it for those struggling through community college.

I go to a university, and what I said clearly went right over your head. I was commenting that you obviously read what he said, responded to it with a wall of text, then used the tldr. Complete miss use of tldr. Not a big deal, but ridiculous none the less lol.