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Since there is an interest in VS loots, this is a great time for community input.
Loottables: -A loottable is comprised of a lootdropid, multiplier, and %chance -A lootdrop is comprised of item, and %chance. There are additional fields in these tables, but for our purposes, they are useless. Example: all the armor drops on a single lootdrop, and the rest of the staves, quest staves, and gem on another lootdrop. (note: this is NOT how it is currently set in the database) lootdropid: 1000, multiplier: 1, chance: 100% Cobalt Greaves 10% Blood Ember Greaves 10% Jaundiced Bone Greaves 10% Tolan's Darkwood Greaves 10% Deepwater Greaves 10% Mrylokar's Greaves 10% Singing Steel Greaves 10% Donal's Leggings of Mourning 10% Elder Spiritist's Greaves 10% Ancient Shissar Gauntlet 10% In the above example, there is a multiplier of 1, and a %chance of 100. So, 100% of the time, one of those items will drop. If the multiplier was 2, it would roll twice. There are 10 items included in the lootdrop. Each has its own %chance for dropping. Equal chances would be.. 10% for each. (note: this is NOT how it is currently set in the database) The following could be a second lootdrop on the same loottable. lootdropid: 1001, multiplier: 3, chance: 60% Waters of Impenetrable Aura 30% Diamond Encrusted Staff 10% Nightshade Scented Staff 10% Shissar Nullifier Staff 10% Shissar Guardian Staff 10% Lycanthropic Staff 10% Gnarled Staff 10% Pulsing Green Stone 10% So, lootdrop 1001 could roll 3 times, or zero times, depending if 60% was met or not. (note: this is NOT how it is currently set in the database) I hope this provides a general understanding of how loot functions. Since we will never know exactly how VS's loot should work, I am willing to hear how you guys think it should work based on your own findings. Input/pseudo-lootdrops/%s welcomed. | ||
Last edited by nilbog; 01-15-2012 at 01:45 PM..
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Thanks for the response Nilbog, once I get back from work tonight Ill definitely be looking it over again and giving a bit of input!
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Legs/Junk first, weighted slightly in advantage of leg drops over staff drops.
Lootdropid: 1000, multiplier: 2, chance 100% Cobalt Greaves 7% Blood Ember Greaves 7% Jaundiced Bone Greaves 7% Tolans Darkwood Greaves 7% Deepwater Greaves 7% Mrylokar's Greaves 7% Singing Steel Greaves 7% Donal's Leggings of Mourning 7% Elder Spiritist's Greaves 7% Ancient Shissar Gauntlet 7% Waters Of Impenetrable Aura 5% Diamond Encrusted Staff 5% Nightshade Scented Staff 5% Shissar Nullifier Staff 5% Shissar Guardian Staff 5% Lycanthropic Staff 5% ================================ Magelo pegs Gnarled Staff drop as 33% of the time, guessing this format would satisfy that and make it similar to scale drops from dragons. Lootdropid: 1001, Multiplier: 1, Chance 33% Gnarled Staff 100% ================================= Ranger/Druid item operating under assumption that it should be a 40% drop from magelo and that 0, 1, or 2 can be seen on the corpse regardless of other loots similar to scale drops from dragons. I don't recall ever seeing more than 2 drop at a time on live. Lootdropid: 1002, Multiplier: 1, Chance 40% Pulsing Green Stone 100% Lootdropid: 1003, Multiplier: 1, Chance 40% Pulsing Green Stone 100% So if the stars align it would be possible to see 2 of legs/junk staff, 1 gnarled staff, and 2 pulsing green stones on the same Venril Sathir while at a minimum you would see 2 loots including legs or junk staff but zero epic quest items.
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Basically what it looked like was in each slot, there was a 67% (rounded) chance to have greaves and a 33% chance to have staves. This was just assuming that there were only two loot slots (aside from the Gnarled Staff and Epic Pieces). The easiest was I found was the same; just have one iteration with the same probability with a 2 multiplier and 100% chance to drop. My numbers come out slightly more in favor for Greaves, but the reflect the data collected anyways. The one thing that I changed was that I did not weight the Shissar Gauntlets the same as the greaves--I just imagined that they were more rare, but if somebody wants to correct me on that! I just took 1% off of the total chance for greaves and staves respectively and put it towards the gauntlets for a total of 2%. Lootdropid: 1000, multiplier: 2, chance 100% Cobalt Greaves 7.3% Blood Ember Greaves 7.3% Jaundiced Bone Greaves 7.3% Tolans Darkwood Greaves 7.3% Deepwater Greaves 7.3% Mrylokar's Greaves 7.3% Singing Steel Greaves 7.3% Donal's Leggings of Mourning 7.3% Elder Spiritist's Greaves 7.3% Waters Of Impenetrable Aura 5.3% Diamond Encrusted Staff 5.3% Nightshade Scented Staff 5.3% Shissar Nullifier Staff 5.3% Shissar Guardian Staff 5.3% Lycanthropic Staff 5.3% Ancient Shissar Gauntlet 2.0% Thanks for looking up the drop rate that was listed for the staff, I would put this also as the second one. ================================ Lootdropid: 1001, Multiplier: 1, Chance 33% Gnarled Staff 100% ================================= I also thought there were up to 3 for epic pieces, so I just combined the two above and gave it a 3 multiplier, same % to drop. Lootdropid: 1002, Multiplier: 3, Chance 40% Pulsing Green Stone 100% ================================= So basically with this setup it ends up being almost the same as Trystch's in terms of what the possibilities are for a loot table (minimum of two loots maximum, maximum of 6 since I included 3 epic stones), but I just weighted the item drop rates to align with the data that I posted since I thought it would be relevant to use it. Either way we change the loot to ensure more greaves like everybody remembers, and it goes off what info we have. I think the epic pieces and staff are good on separate loot tables because in the quotes I provided they do list two epic stones in addition to two regular loots, and also there is one with 3 staves dropping (thats the way I interpreted it). I was bored enough to calculate the chance of getting 2 greaves, one staff and one greaves, and also two staffs from that setup and it actually turned out pretty similar to the data above if you calculate it the same way: 44% for two greaves, 43% chance for one of each, and 11% for two staves. Thanks to others for putting in input for this as well, let me know what you think or if something could use changes.
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I have no evidence, but that does seems more how I recall the drops being.
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VS loots modified, pending update.
Did some minor changes to bring drops in line with replies. It was already set up similar to the suggestions though, so don't expect drastic differences. | ||
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Thanks Nilbog! Nobody will have a reason to complain if its set that way though, so its appreciated!
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