RE: Camping

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Funny thing is I happened to be one of FE's people on ledge when you guys were down there...12 minutes before trak spawned you guys ran into Trak's lair...you didn't leave ledge till maybe 3 minutes before he spawned. Seriously how would you think 3 minutes later when he spawned it would be ok to engage him ? Considering you were still a 30 second run from ledge.

Because we were not "at the spawn location". We know better now, don't we? :P

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because we were not "at the spawn location". We know better now, don't we? :P

Ok either you are being intentionally daft or you are really daft. That is very close to the spawn location of Trak. Anything past the door you open with the torch is "at the spawn location". Saying otherwise is just silly.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok either you are being intentionally daft or you are really daft. That is very close to the spawn location of Trak. Anything past the door you open with the torch is "at the spawn location". Saying otherwise is just silly.

So what is "at Inny's spawn location"? What is "at Cazic Thule's spawn location"? Please list all of the spawn locations and the imaginary and arbitrary radii they encompass that was apparently decided in a meeting somewhere without BDA. Come on, get real.

[Daldaen]

Trying to argue you didn't know Juggs was off limits is pants-on-head levels of retarded.

Its pretty fucking clear that if Trak spawned a guild clearing Juggs would have a distinct advantage over any other guild. Period. End of Story.

If camping somewhere gives you a distinct advantage racing to a mob don't do it. Unless the zone is WCommons and you camp there for porting purposes. That is fine, legit and classic.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trying to argue you didn't know Juggs was off limits is pants-on-head levels of retarded.

Its pretty fucking clear that if Trak spawned a guild clearing Juggs would have a distinct advantage over any other guild. Period. End of Story.

If camping somewhere gives you a distinct advantage racing to a mob don't do it. Unless the zone is WCommons and you camp there for porting purposes. That is fine, legit and classic.

We were following what the rules said, which I have stated multiple times is "at the spawn location". Stop being obtuse. We can't be held responsible for every guild's "interpretation" of the rules. We only got clarification from Rogean after the suspension was handed down. Now there's a bunch of armchair quarterbacking at our expense.

The way *I* interpret the rules is, "in the vicinity of the raid target" means you shouldn't be camped anywhere in the zone of the raid target. Other people are interpreting it as the zone-in. Who the hell knows which is okay until someone gets a raid suspension for doing the wrong thing again. That's what we're hopefully all trying to avoid here. Until then, we're just players throwing out speculation.

If we can all get on the same page together and agree to something, great. I just want everyone to be on the same page so no one has a distinct advantage when it comes time to compete because they are being liberal with an interpretation and we find out later that it was okay all along.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So what is "at Inny's spawn location"? What is "at Cazic Thule's spawn location"? Please list all of the spawn locations and the imaginary and arbitrary radii they encompass that was apparently decided in a meeting somewhere without BDA. Come on, get real.

You are the one that needs "To get real". BDA clearly broke not only the spirit of the rule but the rule itself with that Trak engage and kill. Most of us were surprised it was only an 8 day suspension. You could park a raid at that same door and have Trak engaged in under 30 seconds.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are the one that needs "To get real". BDA clearly broke not only the spirit of the rule but the rule itself with that Trak engage and kill. Most of us were surprised it was only an 8 day suspension. You could park a raid at that same door and have Trak engaged in under 30 seconds.

I'm glad you went that way with it. So, then, since we're truly dealing with "spirits of the rules", what is unwritten "the spirit of the rule" with regards to camping out toons "in the vicinity of a raid target"? That's what we're trying to figure out so no one gets surprised.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm glad you went that way with it. So, then, since we're truly dealing with "spirits of the rules", what is unwritten "the spirit of the rule" with regards to camping out toons "in the vicinity of a raid target"? That's what we're trying to figure out so no one gets surprised.

You really are this dense..Wow.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You really are this dense..Wow.

Nope, answer the question I posed instead of hurling meaningless insults. This isn't RNF.

[Tasslehoff]

meaningless?