Nothxu = Stripped

[Mac Drettj]

agree

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Swyft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see why Red has to take the backseat to Blue problems yet again. Each item has a unique number, not that hard to find them. I don't see why red has to lose a player(which we will over this) because blue's need they're hands held constantly.

I'm sure 15 mins of less stream time with Sirken could save us a player that has spent countless hours on this box. Because this is not just a policy decision it's literally the decision to cast a player aside.

Problem is there are probably 20 petitions in the queue with this exact same problem, and 18 of them are blue. If we get 20% of the GM time blue does how can we reasonably complain, as we're probably less than 20% of their population?

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Read OP, briefly skimmed responses.

Two things:

1) In the past, previous GM's have restored stolen items on Red 99. Policy on that changed around the time I joined the staff as a Guide in August of 2013. It is not our responsibility to track down and return items lost due to players' own error. The chances of your account legitimately being hacked are extremely slim (<1%). The chances that you shared your info with someone, who then shared your info with someone, who then shared your info with two someones, until eventually it got to someone who stole everything is much more likely (>99%). I'm fairly certain that your login history showed definitively that you had shared your info in the past, so this is likely what happened.

One of the main issues here is that if your items have already been disseminated into the economy, we aren't going to then take those items off someone who legitimately purchased them with platinum. We also are not going to "dupe" the items by creating them once they've been sold. And again, even if the items have not been sold, it creates an inordinate amount of work for me (and I already have a long list of things to do every day) for a mistake that shouldn't have happened in the first place.

We have always restored deleted characters on both red and blue. That is an entirely different, and much more simple process.

2) That being said, while we may not return stolen items, we usually do ban the person who took them. This isn't always the case, as it's often extremely difficult to discern what happened in a given situation. I'm not going to give specifics, but this entire process can absolutely be used maliciously, and has in fact been used for this purpose in the past. That is why we are extremely careful in these situations and recommend not sharing your account information.

Also, we generally do reveal where the items went. I had thought I'd given you the players name in your petition thread. If that is not the case, re-petition, label it for me, and I will give you the name of the player who took your stuff when I have some time.

As a final thought, I truly am sorry to anyone who gets their stuff stolen. It's a shitty thing to do to someone, and even shittier to have it happen to you. But it's not something we're going to change policy on. If you don't want your stuff stolen, don't share your info! You may also want to avoid passwords like "12345" and "password". For ultimate protection, use an alpha-numeric password that includes capital letters and special characters in a random order. If that's too hard to remember, use a string of words in place of a single word (IE: "bobbarkerpunchedmyballs" is better than "testicles" or even "testiclepunch".

Good luck and please don't share your info if you continue to play here!

I understand you don't want to dupe items, as that would be bad for the economy. I fully understand you don't want to punish those who obtained the item fairly.

Finally, account sharing is a shitty idea on this server.

On the other hand, I don't see why you can't hand the stripped dude some gear from the banned one.

Would improve customer satisfaction a lot.

[Swyft]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Problem is there are probably 20 petitions in the queue with this exact same problem, and 18 of them are blue. If we get 20% of the GM time blue does how can we reasonably complain, as we're probably less than 20% of their population?

I guarantee 90% of the petitions are over mob stealing on blue. Nothing that would cost them a population -1, just angry nerd raging over pixels.

[lite]

This shit never happens in Azrael and every single one of us account shares..... Guild only with people whose company you enjoy, not those that are more likely to secure you pixels.

[Genedin]

I don't even save login info when pals need me to log in for them. Just a game and all.

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Swyft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guarantee 90% of the petitions are over mob stealing on blue. Nothing that would cost them a population -1, just angry nerd raging over pixels.

Have had 2 items ninjaed in groups, in the 4 months that I've played here. One minor, one 10k+.

Neither time action was taken.

Tbh this makes it hard to say what I'd do if a T-staff or some shit dropped in a random group. Make sure I loot it first, that's certain.

[mostbitter]

Originally Posted by lite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This shit never happens in Azrael and every single one of us account shares..... Guild only with people whose company you enjoy, not those that are more likely to secure you pixels.

You got a lot of nerve acting all self righteous after stealing from me. I hope you don't get aids.

[Swyft]

Originally Posted by lite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This shit never happens in Azrael and every single one of us account shares..... Guild only with people whose company you enjoy, not those that are more likely to secure you pixels.

So I guess the video's you posted of people stripping AZ toons was all BS. I guess you should be banned for making false accusations then, and wasting GM's time.

[Quiet]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Read OP, briefly skimmed responses.

Two things:

1) In the past, previous GM's have restored stolen items on Red 99. Policy on that changed around the time I joined the staff as a Guide in August of 2013. It is not our responsibility to track down and return items lost due to players' own error. The chances of your account legitimately being hacked are extremely slim (<1%). The chances that you shared your info with someone, who then shared your info with someone, who then shared your info with two someones, until eventually it got to someone who stole everything is much more likely (>99%). I'm fairly certain that your login history showed definitively that you had shared your info in the past, so this is likely what happened.

One of the main issues here is that if your items have already been disseminated into the economy, we aren't going to then take those items off someone who legitimately purchased them with platinum. We also are not going to "dupe" the items by creating them once they've been sold. And again, even if the items have not been sold, it creates an inordinate amount of work for me (and I already have a long list of things to do every day) for a mistake that shouldn't have happened in the first place.

We have always restored deleted characters on both red and blue. That is an entirely different, and much more simple process.

2) That being said, while we may not return stolen items, we usually do ban the person who took them. This isn't always the case, as it's often extremely difficult to discern what happened in a given situation. I'm not going to give specifics, but this entire process can absolutely be used maliciously, and has in fact been used for this purpose in the past. That is why we are extremely careful in these situations and recommend not sharing your account information.

Also, we generally do reveal where the items went. I had thought I'd given you the players name in your petition thread. If that is not the case, re-petition, label it for me, and I will give you the name of the player who took your stuff when I have some time.

As a final thought, I truly am sorry to anyone who gets their stuff stolen. It's a shitty thing to do to someone, and even shittier to have it happen to you. But it's not something we're going to change policy on. If you don't want your stuff stolen, don't share your info! You may also want to avoid passwords like "12345" and "password". For ultimate protection, use an alpha-numeric password that includes capital letters and special characters in a random order. If that's too hard to remember, use a string of words in place of a single word (IE: "bobbarkerpunchedmyballs" is better than "testicles" or even "testiclepunch".

Good luck and please don't share your info if you continue to play here!

TLDR : I am too busy raiding with Azrael to do anything. But I did have time to type this post up. I meant to tell you who the item stealer was, but I saw it was Salem and when I rolled over in bed and told him, he laughed and warped away.