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Old 06-28-2013, 01:57 PM
Nuggets Nuggets is offline
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Does hymn of restoration (lvl 2) stack with Niv's Melody of Preservation (lvl 47)?

I would guess no, since they are both type "Group v2"

So next question, does Niv's completely replace the old faithful heal song?


Wiki states Niv's heals 6-9 dmg/tick (lvl 47=6, lvl 65=9). Im gunna assume its around 8dmg per tick at 60, and 7 at 55. Since i'd be using cantata at 55 for regen purposes, im going to consider Niv's healing value 6/tick.

Hymn = 2-14 dmg/tick (lvl 2-65) So i'm gunna put it around 10/tick at lvl 55 when it will be obsoleted anyways.

So i think i answered my own question while researching how to ask it... but can anyone give me some feedback from their experiences?

Looks to me like hymn is slightly better for heal only situational regen purposes like post wipe/rez or sumthin...

I think i just wanted to hear somebody say that its completely obsoleted, so i could worry about 1 less song to stop scribe swapping [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thank you for answering my not question
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Old 06-28-2013, 07:29 PM
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They do stack. It's like 30hp/tick with a lute or the epic. You can also stack Psalm of Mystic Shielding (5hp/tick).
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Old 06-30-2013, 08:17 AM
astuce999 astuce999 is offline
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When looking to see if songs stack, you don't look at the song type (group v2) you try to see which "slot" have which effects. Consider these 4 songs:

Hymn of Restoration

1 : Increase Hitpoints by 2 per tick (L6) to 14 per tick (L65)

Psalm of Mystic Shielding

1 : Increase Magic Resist by 51 (L41) to 75 (L65)
2 : Increase Absorb Magic Damage by 15
3 : Increase Hitpoints by 5 per tick
4 : Increase AC by 4 (L41) to 6 (L65)

Niv's Melody of Preservation

1 : Increase STR by 10
2 : Increase Absorb Magic Damage by 10
3 : Increase Hitpoints by 6 per tick (L47) to 9 per tick (L65)

Cantata of Replenishment

1 : Increase Hitpoints by 11 per tick (L55) to 13 per tick (L65)
2 : Increase Mana by 12 per tick (L55) to 14 per tick (L65)
3 : Decrease Stamina Loss by 10

As we can anticipate, since Heal Song and Cantata both have the heal portion as slot 1, they do not stack together, and since Psalm and Niv's have it as slot 3, they do not stack together either. Heal song will stack with either Psalm or Niv's, and Cantata will also stack with either Psalm of Niv's as well.

The most hp gained is Niv's and Cantata with a lute equipped since both are string based. At lvl 60 with a Kelin's Seven Stringed Lute (2.4 mod), it heals 48 hp a tick.

In most real game (not to say real life) situations, you will have a Breath of Harmony which has the insta-click effect of Niv's, and you will want to click it as often as you can to keep Niv's up with whatever other song choices you can manage.

If grouped with a Shaman, Necro, or someone with a manastone or using mod rods, both niv's and Psalm have a damage absorb effect that will decrease the hp loss. Using the BoH click of Niv's every time you see the "bigfatshaman winces" message is a very powerful combo.

happy singing,

Astuce
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Old 07-01-2013, 07:17 AM
Nuggets Nuggets is offline
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Thanks for the feedback. is there a good way to set up a hot buttons for:

/stopsong
/BoH

since its a right click. is the command like, /use primary or sumthing?
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Old 11-15-2013, 05:56 PM
eqisow eqisow is offline
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Thanks for the feedback. is there a good way to set up a hot buttons for:

/stopsong
/BoH

since its a right click. is the command like, /use primary or sumthing?
I know this is an old thread, but I'm also hoping to learn this. There used to be a /useitem command, but it seems not on P99?
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