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Old 01-05-2014, 01:58 AM
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Default What is BDA doing to work towards a raid agreement?

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The plan BDA supports:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=133456

Thank you for your concern regarding our guild's position.


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All I see on the Raid Discussion forum are proposals from GMs, FE, TMO, and A-Team. To every single proposal I see BDA (most Chest), making short one liners over and over saying they don't like the proposal that was presented with little to no explanation. Other "Tier 2" guilds occasionally chime in with constructive and positive feedback.

So what is BDA doing to actively try and come to an agreement? Kicking and screaming just doesn't cut it, you need to post logical arguments, alternate plans, and in general be willing to compromise.

Yes, BDA made one post of their own on those boards, but it was an explanation of why they are angry, not what they want to do about it. Right now it seems to me that the whole server is trying hard to work together, but BDA is just saying no to everything to make waves. Am I wrong?
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Old 01-05-2014, 02:06 AM
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FE member. Spare me the rhetoric
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Old 01-05-2014, 02:07 AM
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Someone must have selective reading.
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Old 01-05-2014, 02:11 AM
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sorry, missed that Divinity also made a nicely detailed raid plan. Care to link to BDA's approved plan in Raid Discussion?
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Old 01-05-2014, 02:14 AM
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sorry, missed that Divinity also made a nicely detailed raid plan. Care to link to BDA's approved plan in Raid Discussion?
VS, Trak, CT, Inny should cycle by spawns T1(ffa)/ T2(ffa) / Server (ffa)

all those other targets should be T1(ffa) / T2 (ffa)

VP is just FFA

Server repops FFA

then just add your other rules

No poopsocking
disband guilds who oops train
No stalling (position and engage only, shouldn't take half a minute)

Let the retards in each tier (guilds) determine how they "FFA" their targets, let server rules (staff) determine how the rest of the FFA targets are done.

T2's don't get 50/50 T1 mobs (but they have the chance too) just like T1's don't get 50/50 (but have the chance too).

No guild has to bump out of any tier they don't want to. You don't want to race sometimes against those other guys you consider assholes... well now you don't have to.

I heard it's been approved.
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Old 01-05-2014, 02:18 AM
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Bag limit means racing to mobs; and all the competition in the world. But with fair distribution.
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Old 01-05-2014, 02:19 AM
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sorry, missed that Divinity also made a nicely detailed raid plan. Care to link to BDA's approved plan in Raid Discussion?
The plan BDA supports:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=133456

Thank you for your concern regarding our guild's position.
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Old 01-05-2014, 02:20 AM
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Anicheck seems to be reasonable. He's actually open to negotiating a little bit. Which is what all this is, a negotiation.

Edit for the guy above me: It's already been rejected like so many other plans. Lets move on.
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Old 01-05-2014, 02:20 AM
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No need to rethink the wheel. Divinity came up with a very detailed plan and we put our support behind it.

That same plan was also agreed to by every guild except TMO and FE. Even IB signed off on it initially.

Every plan that has been proposed since by FE, Sirken, and Derubael have all had the same characteristics. Tiers to restrict the choice mobs from the casual crowd, poison pill clauses that drag guilds into the FFA shitshow against their will, inequitable splits on mobs, or all of the above. Proposing plans under different names with the same inherent characteristics isn't negotiating, it's a ruse.

There are two sides to this argument. Those who support a hardcore mindset, and those who support the casual mindset. Each side not budging is the fault of each side, not a specific party or a faction within a specific party.
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