Ben Stein vs. Everquest

[karsten]

list of things I didn't read:

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Originally Posted by Pycoba_rng [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Though its very late and im intoxicated right now. I personally agree with a lot of the statements you have made. If we all just did what made us happy in the end. The world would be one chaotic place.
Just imagine how many more obese people would be in america? I have so many responsibilities that don't make me happy. In the end though I am much more happier with a sense of accomplishment having done them. Evolution is apparent. If you disagree with the fact that the younger generation is being brought up tremedously differntly you are a fool. It guys like Ben Stein we need. I'm no fan of Ben Stein , but comments like his have more of a positive effect then a neg one. We need people to push us into responsibilty aka productive things. We need people to encourage us and to point out time wasted. Back in the day when the diagnosis of ADD wasn't around. Parents would just discipline you harder. Instead we medicate society often way to much. As far as our education system being so low. You can thank the public school system/ polotics for this notion. Maybe if we got rid of the illegals attending these schools with no profound way on learning english maybe then we could concentrate on studies that matter for the children that are hear legally. Or maybe if parents just took the time and payed proper attention to their kids there may be more hope. Back in the day it was normal for the wife to stay home with the child. Now in days its demonized into a cultural norm that the wife has to work. The economy has now responded... double income parents.... It was much more plausible for one parent to work back then. Now its a lot harder. You can thank womans right groups, and the socialistic terror it has brought onto this nation. The day woman aren't demonized for staying home with the children, and the day the average male can support his family on his own. Is the day we might be able to focus on our kids/schools more. I hope more people like Ben Stein come out of this generation of kids. Its people with a driving force that gets things done in this world. Not people doing theings for their own happiness. But for the greater good of others and their hapiness. Think jesus perhaps?

[Japan]

stein is a creationist retard, and I didn't read the rest of the thread because I don't give a fuck what he has to say about anything

[guineapig]

Some would argue that listening to celebrities is a waste of time.

I think Mr. Stein himself said that during the last election. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ihealyou]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You'd rather enjoy life than do what you're supposed to do? Again, a dangerous cultural attitude that leads to mediocrity and ironically (in the end) unhappiness.

Hi Grandpa!

Success does bring happiness, which is why most people don't sit around all day watching TV and playing EQ. My point was that if you chase success at the expense of all else, you'll end up rich and skinny and everything else you're supposed to be, but unhappy. I was just trying to say that its ok to take some time to enjoy yourself without feeling guilty about it. Thanks for calling me lazy though! I better go take my Adderall because my parents didn't raise me right...

[Odeseus]

I dunno. I can see one side of the argument:

Playing video games is akin to wasting your time doing anything else. Obsessing over reality TV, facebook, whatever. There are better things to do with your free time.

On the flip side:

It is your free time. For me, during my free time I want to do as little as possible because the rest of my life is busy as hell. I rarely have more than a pair of hours at the end of the day in which I can just chill, and my chosen method of chilling is playing EQ and killing pixels. No different than anything else.

[Gandite]

Keep in mind that in everquest's heyday they had 450k subscriptions. That's 450,000 monthly payments of $15. All that money employs a lot of people so while people playing EQ are not producing, they are consuming. Consuming is a normal part of an economy.

Ben Stein claims to be an economist but he certainly doesn't know much about economics or finance. I'm an econ/finance major and while I do not proclaim to be brilliant in either field I honestly feel like Ben Stein knows absolutely nothing about either. If you'd like proof go look up what the mongoloid said about the global financial crisis. He's a loud-mouth moron which is why his only outlet to get people to listen to him is Fox News.

[dallammarr]

http://www.nyjtimes.com/Entertainmen...vercracked.htm

Good article to read about this topic. But yes I believe in moderation. I had a bit of an addiction to EQ back in 1999 when I first played it, but eventually it wore off. I agree, I go to work to support my family and lifestyle, if I didn't have to work I wouldn't.

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by President [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ben Stein is pro-life, believes in intelligent design, and likened Obama's rally's during the 2008 presidential race to Hitlers rallies.

Among many other things. That guy can get fucked in the ass by a gorilla, water buffalo, and Uthgaard's banhammer all at the same time.

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http://everqueststein.ytmnd.com/

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Ihealyou [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hi Grandpa!

Success does bring happiness, which is why most people don't sit around all day watching TV and playing EQ. My point was that if you chase success at the expense of all else, you'll end up rich and skinny and everything else you're supposed to be, but unhappy. I was just trying to say that its ok to take some time to enjoy yourself without feeling guilty about it. Thanks for calling me lazy though! I better go take my Adderall because my parents didn't raise me right...

i never called you lazy. i never said your parents didn't raise you right. i don't blame you, your parents, my parents, or anyone for the reality of our culture.

all i am pointing out is that our society is in a dangerous place because ALL of us (myself included) are living in a culture that tells us "do what makes you happy."

if you get defensive because you see yourself in the culture i'm describing it shouldn't bother you, unless you know you ought to be living your life differently. in either case, it makes no difference to me. enjoy your life playing EQ 24/7 or do something else...its your life, not mine. it isn't my place to say what is "best" for you in particular.

[Extunarian]

Originally Posted by Shocore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I sat through Battlefield Earth, The Postman, Troll 2, and The Room in one sitting each, but I had to space Expelled over the space of a few days because I began to feel nauseous after about 20 minutes of Stein's monotonous ignorance and ignorant monotony.

Forgive an obvious ad hominem, but Ben Stein is stupid and everything he says is stupid.

This is a great first post.