What do parties favor more - SK or Warrior?

[Sage Truthbearer]

At 55 the enchanter in your KC pug with a hasted, charmed drolvarg is going to put out like ~200 dps by himself. The contribution of a Warrior's dps compared to a Knight's is not going to be noticeable by a single person. What's actually going to help that pug be extremely efficient is the Paladin who has utility that a Warrior simply doesn't bring to the table in group settings: like instant snap aggro, front-line CCs with root parking, stuns, heals, buffs, LoH in an oh shit moment, etc.

[wisefool]

Thank you everyone for responding and sharing your valuable input. Another question to ask as well... On P99 server, which class is more common/rare between the SK and Warrior? I'd also be leaning more towards the class that there are less of. I rather stay away from the tank class that there are already too many of.

[Samoht]

First: assume all groups have well-played enchanters
Second: forget warriors have half the perks you mention for paladins
Conclusion: Paladins R gud

[Caiu]

Originally Posted by Sage Truthbearer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At 55 the enchanter in your KC pug with a hasted, charmed drolvarg is going to put out like ~200 dps by himself. The contribution of a Warrior's dps compared to a Knight's is not going to be noticeable by a single person. What's actually going to help that pug be extremely efficient is the Paladin who has utility that a Warrior simply doesn't bring to the table in group settings: like instant snap aggro, front-line CCs with root parking, stuns, heals, buffs, LoH in an oh shit moment, etc.

Delusional. Knights on a good day put out half the dps of a warrior and every bit counts no matter the group make up. There is a time and place for Hybrids certainly but until they are placed on the same damage tables as warriors the only thing they have going for them is snap agro.

[Sage Truthbearer]

The only thing delusional is how greatly you are exaggerating the utility a warrior's melee dps vs SK/pal in group settings. There's a reason the overwhelming majority of PUGs prefer the tank role be filled by a knight, it's because group content is for the most part steamrolled and the damage output of a warrior vs sk/pal in those situations simply does not make a significant difference in group efficiency. What does make a significant difference in efficiency is being able to quickly and reliably generate aggro (aka the primary role of a tank in group) which SK/pal excel at and Warriors struggle with in comparison. Not to mention Paladins having an extremely versatile toolkit in groups that a war doesn't without the aid of clickies. It's not even close, Paladins are superior group tanks in every single way imaginable.

[Naethyn]

The worse the group is the better a paladin is. The better a group is the better a warrior is. It is not accurate to say paladins are better group tanks in every single way imaginable. There are many scenarios (50+) that a warrior is going to do better.

[Caiu]

Sounds like you are trying as desperately as you can to justify your subpar class. I'd take a well geared and well played warrior in most groups over a Paladin. Unless I was playing my monk in which case none of those classes would be tanking.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Sage Truthbearer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Paladins are superior group tanks in every single way imaginable.

Maybe. But only below level 55. It's not even close after that. With DPS, disciplines, and kick-bash, Warriors are infinitely better after that.

[Spyder73]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe. But only below level 55. It's not even close after that. With DPS, disciplines, and kick-bash, Warriors are infinitely better after that.

Yea but SK fashion quest is pretty dope

[Jimjam]

Something I've remembered is that poor aggro is more of a kunark era problem for warriors.

With Velious out for so long the weapons market is much more friendly to warriors now, no longer needing to compromise on ratio or proc.