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Old 01-08-2012, 02:29 AM
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Default Venril Sathir Drops

There was this post a long while back in the Kunark bug section that kind of fell by the waistside about VS drops, and just wanted to bring it back to get some discussion rolling again.

Last post from that one was by Shiftin here:


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http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/se...ml?id=4588&p=7
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Tunare server gathered and destroyed Venril Sathir, lose of life was 3 or 4. Loot Warrior and Rogue greaves.
http://www.legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2000-12-06
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Venril Sathir dropped Singing Steel Greaves. Both Blurr and Jangos were awarded Singing Steel Greaves today
There are two more correct timeframe examples of a double leg drops.

I read the log above, and at one point nilbog asks
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[13:55] &nilbog: then thats on a separate drop by itself, or he can rarely drop legs table x2?
The answer seems to be yes, but I can keep looking for more examples if necessary.

I just wanted to add in a plethora of loot history from Harmonium's site using wayback machine, which is the only site I could find out of most of most guilds with a history that far back that listed everything in such detail.

Basically just looking at the dates of the posts and the frequency of leg drops, they seem to be more common than what we see, and also there are multiple instances of double greaves, as well as two staves and one greaves off a single boss.

http://web.archive.org/web/200102020...harmonium.net/

Also used a few older ones to get some further back quotes

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Venrils n stuff... Wednesday, March 7, 2001 by Baven

Two days, Two Venril's... 1 cobalt legs for Kiluur, 1 Jaundiced Bone legs for Gotalis.
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Scuse me? Friday, March 2, 2001 by Baven

Did Venril Sathir have the gusto to spawn? Ah well, was a nice early morning. Thanks for the legs Venril, cya next week!
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This is getting boring.... Tuesday, February 27, 2001 by Baven

Venril splat = 15 seconds. Where is the challenge! However he at least was kind enough to put out something we could use. Blood Ember Legs and Singing Steel Legs.
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Wunderbar Servers.... Wednesday, February 21, 2001 by Baven

Well, killed a nice Venril again today with the 20 people who managed to get outta bed when servers came up and got a decent score of two Mryoklar legs for Dreconis and Maxis, bastards only took me 41 to get mine [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Another hat trick.... Thursday, February 1, 2001 by Baven

Started out with a nice easy Venril slaying which yielded uber deepwater legs and some more worthless staves one leg and two staves? (grats bank04)
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Random Crap...time off Thursday, January 25, 2001 by Cylus

People are taking it easy...VS was killed, grats on Donal's legs (being decided upon now) and DW legs (Gelf).
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Random Stuff... Thursday, January 11, 2001 by Cylus

VS dead, 2 gae staff and gnarled staff to Wizo (I believe)
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VS + crap Wednesday, January 3, 2001 by Cylus

VS died, finally dropped legs for twink-master Nenja full suit and some paladin legs (Kard for full suit?).
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Lizards run in fear... Wednesday, December 27, 2000 by Baven

Venril Sathir for the 39th time (Cleric legs)
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Dead leezards.... Thursday, December 21, 2000 by Cylus

VS dropped some legs for Synd
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Random musings... Sunday, December 10, 2000 by Cylus

Venril put out two druid legs (Gasto and ?), Donal's (Nugz), and necro staff.
Im guessing two seperate kills, one with two legs, one with legs/staff
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Trak/VS Thursday, November 30, 2000 by Cylus

VS dropped 2 gems, mage staff, and druid legs
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Venril, PoF Stuff, and patch day. Wednesday, November 29, 2000 by Cylus

Venril down, 2 ass staves and 2 stones.
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First Night on Xev Wednesday, November 22, 2000 by Sekira

Venril coughed up Cobalt Greaves, a wizard staff, and two ranger/druid FA gems
It seems like its almost a weekly update, and more often sometimes, so Im guessing that was about 90% of the VS spawns on Xev for those 4 months, and there are plenty of double legs and not many double staves. Sorry there aren't any other guilds with such detailed drops for every spawn, Im willing to look around but nothing from other guilds that I thought might have a lot of updates.
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Old 01-08-2012, 06:15 PM
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Bump the other post with your evidence.
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Bump the other post with your evidence.
The very first link is the second page of the original post, which is the part that has the actual factual evidence, the rest was just recollections. Hopefully these four months of loot history from a single server on almost every kill is enough to up the drop rate of the pants, and it seems pretty apparent they dropped more frequently.
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Old 01-09-2012, 05:23 PM
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Bump. Can we look into this please? Thanks!
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Old 01-09-2012, 08:39 PM
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I'm not guilded on this server so have nothing to gain in that regard, but we frequently got two sets of legs off VS on classic. It was very irritating to get a 2hb. Innoruuk server.
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:34 PM
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I'm not guilded on this server so have nothing to gain in that regard, but we frequently got two sets of legs off VS on classic. It was very irritating to get a 2hb. Innoruuk server.
I wish I could get a few other top end guilds records that kept such good track of their loot as Harmonium, but I think even from just what I have its pretty fair to say that legs should be dropping more than staves, and double legs is not an uncommon appearance at all.

It would be pretty cool to see the current drop rates if Kanras or somebody is willing to show them, and perhaps try to tune them a bit to better reflect the four-ish months of information we have of drop rates on a live server during the current era (I think the records are from end Kunark through the first few months of velious, as Xev opened right before Velious).

Would like to hear what the devs think of the possible changes!
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13 staffs out of 47 loots ...since last april...27.6% drop rate on staffs
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He used to drop 2 sets of legs on rallos zek about one in every 3 kills as my recollection seems to be... however i have no solid evidence to back it up.. i just remember me and another rogue both got them the same day we were both halflings and it was both our first major piece other than regular drops so we look exactly the same lol.
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13 staffs out of 47 loots ...since last april...27.6% drop rate on staffs
Thanks for the input, but I still think it would be cool to have the total drops, as well as how they schemed the loot table, because what seemed to be the consensus from the IRC chat that was posted in the original thread, they were going to have the loot table set to where two legs was very rare, where in this case it seems that two legs is less rare.

Since it was an old thread it might have been changed and not noted, but when somebody has time if you could note on the current situation it would be great!
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