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Old 07-10-2023, 06:42 AM
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Default Bard Combat Skill: Taunt (100)

According to multiple sources, bards had a taunt skill of 100 in classic and Kunark beta, if not later.

https://web.archive.org/web/20010603...com/skills.htm

09:09:09 Jun 03, 2001

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Skill Cap Current and Kurank Beta

These skill caps were generated from another user who looked at the memory area for skill caps. Then he went to the test server and did the same thing. Here are his results. Of course as always the numbers for Kurank are beta and subject to change.
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https://web.archive.org/web/20040829...x?PostID=14580

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Posted: Jan 6 04 11:37 PM
can u let me know some of the best ways u all have found to taunt as a bard. I know as a bard probly not be best but just wanted to see what u all had to say about taunting. i some times group with a cleric and ranger and if i can hold argo better then the ranger he can do more damage with his bow

thx cow
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Re: taunt
Posted: Jan 9 04 9:35 AM
i still wish we had our initial Taunt skill.
Yes, on first EQ pre kunark we had a taunt ability. I know this for sure because i have a lv 8 bard on a server i never play. He is 4 years old and he has a taunt buton. no idea why they took it out
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Re: taunt
Posted: Jan 9 04 7:30 PM
A taunt button would be nice to keep Mobs of the casters while our mez song is developing.
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This was later removed, as indicated in the comment above and the chart below, though there is no exact date as of yet.

https://web.archive.org/web/20040909...ps/mskill.html

19:01:02 Sep 09, 2004

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Melee Skill一覧
Bard Monk Paladin Ranger Rogue Shadow
Knight Warrior

1H Blunt 200 250 240 252 200 225 200 250 200 250 200 225 200 250
1H Slash 200 250 - - 200 225 200 250 200 250 200 225 200 250
2H Blunt - - 240 252 200 225 200 250 - - 200 225 200 250
2H Slash - - - - 200 225 200 250 - - 200 225 200 250
Archery - - - - 180 200 - - - - 175 200 220 240
Bash - - - - 180 200 - - - - 175 200 200 240
Bind
Wound 150 200 200 210 200 210 150 200 176 210 150 200 175 210
Defense 200 252 230 252 210 252 200 220 200 252 210 252 210 252
Disarm - - 200 200 70 70 55 55 200 200 70 70 200 200
Dodge 125 155 200 230 125 155 137 170 150 210 125 155 140 175
Double
Attack - - 210 250 200 235 200 245 200 240 200 235 205 245
Dual
Wield 210 210 252 252 - - 210 245 210 245 - - 210 245
Hand to
Hand 100 100 225 252 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100
Instill
Doubt 100 100 200 200 - - - - 200 200 - - - -
Kick - - 200 250 - - 149 205 - - - - 149 210
Offence 200 252 230 252 200 225 210 252 210 252 200 230 210 252
Parry 75? 185 - - 200 225 200 240 210 250 200 225 200 230
Piercing 200 240 - - 200 225 200 240 210 250 200 225 200 240
Risposte 75 75 200 225 175 200 150 185 200 225 175 200 200 225
Taunt - - - - 180 220 150 150 - - 180 220 200 230
Throwing 113 113 113 200 - - 113 113 220 250 - - 113 200
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Nice find! I'm no meta junkie, but what would a 60 bard with 100 skill be able to taunt successfully? Would it be same level mobs as a warrior but lower probability?
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Old 07-10-2023, 10:08 AM
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Devils advocate taunt was often used to mean ‘get aggro’.

A character can have buttons they don’t have skill for through bugs.

Those points aside I’m interested in the idea bards temporarily had taunt. It doesn’t seem too outlandish.
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Old 08-11-2023, 12:30 PM
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Nice find! I'm no meta junkie, but what would a 60 bard with 100 skill be able to taunt successfully? Would it be same level mobs as a warrior but lower probability?
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=136850

Seems like 100 is right around the threshold where the skill would be reliable enough, though not to the extent that would warrant committing it to hotbar 1 unless specifically standing as the group's tank.

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Devils advocate taunt was often used to mean ‘get aggro’.

A character can have buttons they don’t have skill for through bugs.

Those points aside I’m interested in the idea bards temporarily had taunt. It doesn’t seem too outlandish.
Yeah, no smoking gun as of yet. So far, zero screenshots of bards with taunt hotkeyed, although back then they were doing everything to try and lose aggro more often than not. So if bards did have a taunt skill, them using it in classic wouldn't have been the norm.
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