Are rangers worthless?

[Romeon]

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[Heavydrop]

No

[Romeon]

What do they do in a group?

[Raden]

Not the death touch tank we deserve, but not the one we need right now.

[Heavydrop]

A Ranger is not typically an ideal tank but that doesn't mean they
can't serve as one.
They DPS, snare, root, harmony, buff, heal, and track.
On raids they are usually offered up as the sacrifice to eat the Death Touch
and while that sucks for the Ranger it does open it up for everyone else to get
the raid mob.
Everyone and every class has a role and a job.
People are critical of Rangers and all that but I like Rangers just fine myself.
In my experience its the player not the class that makes things work or not

[hdawg06]

Only good ranger is a dead one.

[Galaa]

if there are no rangers, it'll be hard to determine which class is gonna take the death touch.

Bringing a ranger on a raid will solve this dilemma[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ephirith]

If you use the search function you'll find this topic has been discussed to death in the past.

I'll summarize my perspective for you:

A monk does almost everything better than a ranger. A monk also does almost everything better than a paladin or SK, but rangers get singled out for some reason.

Rangers generally do no more dps than warriors or monks, with some exceptions.

A ranger has the ability to hold agro like paladin or sk, while generally doing dps roughly similar to a warrior or slightly lower than a monk (generally, not accounting for outstanding players on both sides). At the same time they bring the ability to root park adds and snare, which is of situational usefulness. A ranger's defensive skillcaps are significantly lower than tanking classes, monks, and even a rogue, so they take a lot more damage. They are still more than capable of tanking a slowed mob 45+ without running the healer oom.

Harmony is invaluable for outdoor pulling, making Mistmoore, City of Mist, Karnor, etc your playground. I've been complimented on my pulling in these zones numerous times.

Rangers have many bells and whistles, but if you have a solid group with an enchanter, shaman, and cleric that's looking for dps, they have no reason not to just take a rogue, monk, or any other superior dps. If they are looking for a tank, they have no reason not to take a warrior or monk.

Does that make rangers bad? I don't think so. That opinion isn't universal.

[Karafa]

Forgetting the BFG that Rangers can wield in their primary come Velious. Gun was pretty uncommon on live back in the day, and the few facts and numbers posted about Ranger dps with one is pretty incredible.

I played a Ranger to 54. You can tank anything in seb/kc with root and decent weapons, and that makes it pretty easy to form your own group as well.

I'm pretty sure we're going to see some crazy Ranger dps from players like Zilo/Internode come Velious.

[Llodd]

What a stupid question.

Perhaps you meant, are rangers not really worth playing in comparison to xxx?

Rangers are great, now fuck off!