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Old 05-30-2014, 02:13 PM
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Because when it gets out of hand they'll destroy the world as we know it by ruining ecosystems that we depend on to survive.
The elite talk of using neutron bombs in case of a true uprising
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Old 05-30-2014, 02:17 PM
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Worked with an old huey pilot that said he saw an entire herd of dead antalope from a test and that the nuetron device was real. He flew it out to the range were they detonnated it and flew back to recover it with a team.

Says he was really creeped out by it and the guys wouldn't ever talk about what it was they were doing.
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Old 05-30-2014, 02:20 PM
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Well they successfully modified the weather and figured out how to do it. Specifically the ionosphere. They probably decided nuclear bursts in space were sufficient and cheaper than manning and guarding the facility which was hard to justify being kept closed to the public and scientists not in the DoD.

So they dismantled it. This way no one can prove that what they learned was mind control and weather manipulation and the best methods of achieving this through experimentation.

The failed, bid/buyout is probably just a coverup to make it look legitimate.
But they haven't dismantled it. It's still there. They only shut down the program. They shut it down because they were legally unable to prevent civilian access. They have plans and a budget for it still.

http://www.saffm.hq.af.mil/shared/me...130408-064.pdf
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Old 05-30-2014, 02:22 PM
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vietnam was the wake up call for 'em. new veterans affairs issues aren't new. since ww1 we've had trouble with post-service handling of a large military. we knew we'd go to fight iraq, eventually btw. we knew what would happen with helping afghanistan too. and the great motivator is future economic development. controlling weather will help our drought stricken areas, and if we can use it to hurt our enemies then what's the issue other than the magnitudes of energy needed to enact any of that...
Exactly. They are short-sited. By your own words if they knew about all that they would have plans in place on how to handle those very situations in which you name.
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Old 05-30-2014, 02:30 PM
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you think its scary now, just wait until Siri has control of this technology... bow to your new overlords
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Old 05-30-2014, 02:32 PM
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you think its scary now, just wait until Siri has control of this technology... bow to your new overlords
Siri will some day = terminator's Skynet

That or Cortana.
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Old 05-30-2014, 02:32 PM
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Exactly. They are short-sited. By your own words if they knew about all that they would have plans in place on how to handle those very situations in which you name.
you're using the past to define a future certainty. don't. it's like playing chess and having to look at the entire board. if we do this then what does that say to the rest of the world? we won't use it, enemies know that, but what does that mean we really will use? there's a lot of having to act crazy in the game now since it's not ussr v. usa, but any crazy guy with a lot of money and control over others (n. korea) can get the usa's attention; and, sadly, you have to show them that you can out crazy them to the rest of the world so the rest of the world will likely back you in a situation because of that giant economy and military.

it makes more sense to be able to knock out enemy communications and improve our own through researching the ionosphere than causing seismic shifts through out the earth's surface even though that's more dependent on the earth's crustal plates floating on the upper mantle (little geology goes a long way) than anything with the ionosphere.
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Old 05-30-2014, 02:50 PM
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Siri will some day = terminator's Skynet

That or Cortana.
many humans have prophecized about this concept for hundreds of years, yet the vector of our progress has not changed. if fate does not exist, then there must be some collective goal towards self-destruction.
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Old 05-30-2014, 03:28 PM
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This has been known about for a long time. There have been tretise against environmental manipulation since the 70s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environ...ion_Convention
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Old 05-30-2014, 03:34 PM
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and weaponizing space....
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