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Old 12-03-2011, 03:02 PM
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Your argument is that harvest gives less mana over time then another non-classic spell(breeze) - brilliant.

There is no debate here. Having harvest is a huge advantage in classic everquest
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Old 12-03-2011, 03:07 PM
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You mad?
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exploit - is the code word for they outleveled me and are now outfarming me
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Old 12-03-2011, 03:13 PM
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Your argument is that harvest gives less mana over time then another non-classic spell(breeze) - brilliant.

There is no debate here. Having harvest is a huge advantage in classic everquest
The argument, obviously, is that the spell is less effective than a level 16 mana regen buff.

Huge advantage? Nah. The only thing there's no debate about is whether or not it should be removed, because it should. I just find it hilarious how people point to harvest as their excuse for losing.
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Old 12-03-2011, 03:15 PM
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If it wasn't for harvest I'd be stuck at level 10 with Holocaust griefing me

But in all honestly if I played a Mage, Necro, Druid or Bard I'd be 50 long ago my friends.
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Old 12-03-2011, 03:21 PM
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The argument, obviously, is that the spell is less effective than a level 16 mana regen buff.

Huge advantage? Nah. The only thing there's no debate about is whether or not it should be removed, because it should. I just find it hilarious how people point to harvest as their excuse for losing.
We can sit here and weigh how much harvest helps - however ultimately it comes down to playtime and how efficient you were with that playtime. I agree with you tho anyone using it as an excuse for losing either in pvp or that mindless idea of racing to 50 is just a pathetic schmuck.
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Old 12-03-2011, 04:46 PM
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You pretty much can't use harvest during any kind of fight. It has a 10 sec cast time and stuns you for an additional 10 sec, so I doubt you'd wanna CC yourself for 20 seconds straight while quadding. It gives like 225 mana at level 50, minus the med ticks you miss while casting it. Also has a 10 minute cooldown, so the benefits are minor.



Apparently the drop rate on conflag wands was too high. That's the "exploit." The method of using them to level fast is completely legit, it's just that it would have been unlikely for someone to get wands quickly with the classic rarity.
Harvest is not game breaking no, but it basically helps a wizard EXP 15% faster.

While quad kiteing your dumping nearly your whole mana bar on a mobs, Then you go to safe place to med up for your next quad. Whe you get to your safe spot to med, you have no worries about the stun component. And gain 15% of the mana needed to quad again.. which means 15% less time waiting on mana.

Its basically 1 free yellow bubble of exp for every 4 yellow bubs you truely earned. Since you couldnt quad as much/fast without this spell.

To say its negligable/minor is not true.
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Old 12-03-2011, 05:24 PM
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I would laugh so hard if everyone that's using the "u mad im awesome it was in the game so its ok to use" excuse for all the exploiting just got banned without another word in the first big patch.
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Old 12-03-2011, 08:25 PM
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Old 12-03-2011, 10:22 PM
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Well, I can go to NK and buy the combine ports. Its just like the gm's didn't turn everything back to classic.

Im kind of a bit surprised they didn't keep a server save of right before they implemented Kunark.
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Old 12-03-2011, 10:53 PM
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If it wasn't for harvest I'd be stuck at level 10 with Holocaust griefing me

But in all honestly if I played a Mage, Necro, Druid or Bard I'd be 50 long ago my friends.
And if the wands had been addressed before launch you'd be lvl 40 instead of 45.
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