clarification on pathing exploits

[vouss]

So from what I understand

Exploiting fire giant pathing in Sol B while raid force is trying kill Rage fire = death touch

Pulling bears up the ramp in Perma = 14 day ban

Just to be clear on this

[HippoNipple]

Yeah I'm kind of worried about even leveling in Oggok now. Don't need to exploit/path but the problems are all over, hard to completely avoid.

[Tumdumm]

if your exp bar is growing.... you're exploiting
simple math bros

[Nirgon]

Go xp there with fraps, or post in petition about it :P

[heartbrand]

One does not xp in oggok unless he's there to exploit

[HippoNipple]

One does not xp in oggok unless he's there to exploit

Man am I that overpowered to where it just isn't that tough either way for me?

[Nirgon]

One does not xp in oggok unless he's there to exploit

Bigwu (and other Nihilum) I killed in were there back in vanilla, didn't appear to be exploiting I don't think.

[Stasis01]

So from what I understand

Exploiting fire giant pathing in Sol B while raid force is trying kill Rage fire = death touch

Pulling bears up the ramp in Perma = 14 day ban

Just to be clear on this

You got it right bro, carry on.

[Ephi]

We have toughened our disciplinary actions on path exploitation. That's all.

[Handpartytowel]

why not just despawn the mobs until the broken game mechanics can be fixed?

[Nirgon]

Gotta say 2 weeks for one dragon vs no weeks for multiple dragons existed at the same time.

Was there a brief toughening window when Holo got nailed? :)

I just want to see fair enforcement. 2 weeks for anyone and can't wiggle out unless they are proved innocent. Tune and Bronkus being let go early was unthinkable. Players will start expecting only 2-3 days for similar behavior. Rules need to be hard, concise and enforced the same way every time.

Else? You will see Cwall type threads... or just people leaving without even saying anything.

[Handpartytowel]

can we get a list of zones in which development is not finished and it is therefore illegal to xp in?

[Nizzarr]

itt:Nirgon trying to defend his exploiting guildmates

[Nirgon]

Eh.. more like can we clarify if we're allowed to xp there at all until it is fixed?

I've suggested on blue people go there when they can't get groups... not trying to get ppl in trouble!

[Nirgon]

itt:Nirgon trying to defend his exploiting guildmates

I'm told by them they weren't (well, of course..). If I find out otherwise, they can app you guys :D.

[Nizzarr]

ITT: Nirgon will believe exploiting guildmates over the guide that was hidden and watching before suspending.

[Nirgon]

Heard they are off the hook...

They shouldn't be if they were exploiting.

Then again Tune and Bronkus...

I'd rather they all served full time if found guilty :) (Bronkus obvious, wasn't there for Tune/others).

[Cwall 53.0]

Else? You will see Cwall type threads...

it begins

[Cwall 53.0]

We have toughened our disciplinary actions on path exploitation. That's all.

l o l

you can't be serious

[Rettii]

ITT: Nirgon will believe exploiting guildmates over the guide that was hidden and watching before suspending.

Says the guy that uses every exploit and bug in the game and also stayed bound in bear pits AFTER solB/perm removed binding just so he could pull bears up to the cubby hole where they would glitch up through floor instead of walking through vox lair.

[Nirgon]

^ lol its funny because he was guilded with you while you did that and is calling you out.

Lime confirmed you were STILL bound down there lol.

[HippoNipple]

I am not one of the conspiracy theorists on here that think all the rules are changed because of Nihilum, especially changes that effect blue, but it is a kick in the nuts when all the changes benefit them.

- charmable mobs being changed
- exp modifier goes away
- exploitable pve grinding spots more strongly enforced

These were all changed in the last few weeks.

With an 8 level pvp range and the fact that the top guild played solo for 6 months all these things stack against everyone else.

Make a change, do something that would benefit a different group or at least implement something that would benefit everyone like yellow text.

- no exp loss in pvp
- 4 - 6 level range for pvp
- item loot

Jesus do something on the PvP server besides changes that help lvl 60 pve pixel lust.

[Nirgon]

All these problems were brought here from blue by them.

[heartbrand]

I leveled to 60 not in nihilum using the bonus, as did the rest of the server over the last six months, how is it being removed half a year later some sort of beneficial change to Nihilum? Sorry everyone else couldn't be bothered to play the box. You snooze you lose.

[Nirgon]

It went from 75% to 0, then back up to 25% is the one he's talking about.

Consider what else was removed in the patch :P.

I'll say this one is likely tin foil hat... but not entirely to me yet considering who is now changing things outside of his department and who is giving him these directions.

[Slytherin]

Make a change, do something that would benefit a different group

- item loot



I'm amazed that people think item loot is good for non-nihilum.

"If you're pro you can risk your resist gear and slay those decked out in no-drop!"

Yah, how's that work out when the opponent's resist gear also comes attached to 75+ hp/mana and is no-drop?

You lose once, bye bye T-crown. You win, can't loot that Crown of Rile that has +5svm, +25svf, +20str/wis/int, and +75hp/mana.

You lose once, bye bye Shiny Robe of Underfoot. You win, can't loot that Robe of Azure Sky that has +5 svm/svf/svc, +15svp/svd, +13int, +70mana, and +85hp.

[Yagebasto]

So from what I understand

Exploiting fire giant pathing in Sol B while raid force is trying kill Rage fire = death touch

Pulling bears up the ramp in Perma = 14 day ban

Just to be clear on this
http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/other/grand/8fc53407a77ff96c8c3d98bbb56a0333.gif

[Cwall 53.0]

I'm amazed that people think item loot is good for non-nihilum.

"If you're pro you can risk your resist gear and slay those decked out in no-drop!"

Yah, how's that work out when the opponent's resist gear also comes attached to 75+ hp/mana and is no-drop?

You lose once, bye bye T-crown. You win, can't loot that Crown of Rile that has +5svm, +25svf, +20str/wis/int, and +75hp/mana.

You lose once, bye bye Shiny Robe of Underfoot. You win, can't loot that Robe of Azure Sky that has +5 svm/svf/svc, +15svp/svd, +13int, +70mana, and +85hp.

think you fail to realize that 90% of them are god awful at pvp

[Nirgon]

I'm amazed that people think item loot is good for non-nihilum.

"If you're pro you can risk your resist gear and slay those decked out in no-drop!"

Yah, how's that work out when the opponent's resist gear also comes attached to 75+ hp/mana and is no-drop?

You lose once, bye bye T-crown. You win, can't loot that Crown of Rile that has +5svm, +25svf, +20str/wis/int, and +75hp/mana.

You lose once, bye bye Shiny Robe of Underfoot. You win, can't loot that Robe of Azure Sky that has +5 svm/svf/svc, +15svp/svd, +13int, +70mana, and +85hp.

More like..

Hello SBC, Hello Cloak of Flames, Hello RBG, Hello diamond/blue diamond resist jewelry, Hello Necklace of Superiority, Hello Fungi etc

[Nizzarr]

Says the guy that uses every exploit and bug in the game and also stayed bound in bear pits AFTER solB/perm removed binding just so he could pull bears up to the cubby hole where they would glitch up through floor instead of walking through vox lair.

you sound like you're suspended

[Nizzarr]

More like..

Hello SBC, Hello Cloak of Flames, Hello RBG, Hello diamond/blue diamond resist jewelry, Hello Necklace of Superiority, Hello Fungi etc

more like no one would wear that shit.

[Cwall 53.0]

more like no one would wear that shit.

your hordes of droolcup recruits would definitely wear that shit

[heartbrand]

Considering resists are basically useless as it is I certainly wouldn't be wearing them in PVP with item loot

[Nirgon]

Eh I'm starting to see some partials in the 180 range.

Need to probably turn the resist knob by 60, and see my full resist logic I've posted a few times.

120 as an even con vs a resist mod 0 spell should be pretty much lol'ing @ someone if done right.

Funny how classic changes make for a good system (good game... hm wait a minute!).

[heartbrand]

I tested sunstrike with wearing nothing but FR gear in every slot which means I've said fuck you to all other resists including MR, and with full FR buffs and bard song to get over 400+ FR I was partialing sunstrike to 189-400. Glad to know that's all it takes!

[Nirgon]

All a result of trying to make all classes viable in every scenario.

WoW tried to do that, and it is TERRIBLE for a pvp game.

People are "bored" with bgs and arena. IMAGINE THAT.

[heartbrand]

I'm @ the point where I only bother with PR and MR in most fights to try to prevent getting locked down because why stack FR or CR at the expense of those to maybe partial a nuke from 800 to 600?

[Tomatoking]

droolcup recruits haha

[Nizzarr]

droolcup recruits haha

Don't laugh at your own kind.