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nilbog
03-04-2013, 07:27 PM
Since epics are now live, these should have been updated. Live on pvp as of now.



Max skill level for tradeskills is 250, up from 200.
Two Handed weapons receive a delay bonus.
Monk Weight is 14 for lvls 1-54, 18 for lvls 55-59, and 22 for lvl 60s

Tumdumm
03-04-2013, 07:29 PM
horray

Mornin
03-04-2013, 07:34 PM
how long is root rot suspensions?

Nirgon
03-04-2013, 07:36 PM
Guard assist on non damaging hostile too pls

Handpartytowel
03-04-2013, 07:38 PM
wtb diamond rings for way less now pst.

SamwiseRed
03-04-2013, 07:44 PM
anything for red is good. thanks

Dullah
03-04-2013, 07:58 PM
Thanks Nilbog.

Tomatoking
03-04-2013, 08:07 PM
so 2 hand weapons hit for more then 41?

Clearrain
03-04-2013, 08:29 PM
Can you do something about 1-50 xp we're hurting bad out here.

Tippett
03-04-2013, 08:32 PM
pop has been dropping bad increase exp plz

Nirgon
03-04-2013, 08:54 PM
High of 206 going away :/

heartbrand
03-04-2013, 09:01 PM
can confirm exp nerf has really hurt pop

Nirgon
03-04-2013, 09:02 PM
Many leave and don't look back, or post a goodbye or anything :(

Tomatoking
03-04-2013, 09:16 PM
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But im sure it said

WAAAA

Dullah
03-04-2013, 11:03 PM
I hope with the damage bonus to 2h, they also make it so 40 damage weapons don't hit for 14s on a regular basis.

Fame
03-04-2013, 11:21 PM
Yeah exp nerf really killed the pop, when there is 15-20 people in a lower lvl range and 4 of them quit it does have an impact on gameplay. Thanks for the changes though!

Tippett
03-04-2013, 11:23 PM
pop has been dropping bad increase exp plz

HippoNipple
03-04-2013, 11:43 PM
You have to get Rogean on board for the exp to come back and it doesn't seem like he likes this server much. I'm sure there is someone he would take input from....

vouss
03-04-2013, 11:48 PM
def need more xp

Galacticus
03-04-2013, 11:49 PM
def

Tomatoking
03-05-2013, 01:46 AM
10x ill come back myself

Combobreaker
03-05-2013, 01:51 AM
Oh boy, who wants to catch a CLEAVAH ?!?!

Wawaka
03-05-2013, 07:05 AM
I hope with the damage bonus to 2h, they also make it so 40 damage weapons don't hit for 14s on a regular basis.

SamwiseRed
03-05-2013, 07:06 AM
random number generator is random

Topdog
03-05-2013, 07:31 AM
pop has been dropping bad increase exp plz

Can confirm, lifes really rough out there and pop is dropping.

Ikari
03-05-2013, 11:24 AM
Xp is fine. L2 Grind. Put in work and stop beggin for free XPs. That or go play wow. They have rested Xpz. ya fegs.

waldo
03-05-2013, 11:37 AM
Go play wow? that is probably what all the people who left are doing. Pop was at 200 :(

Ikari
03-05-2013, 11:54 AM
if you choose wow over P99red you werent meant to be here in the first place. Let them run in fear of a real XP grind. Definitely add yellow text though imo.

Andis
03-05-2013, 12:09 PM
can confirm exp nerf has really hurt pop

wow this could be the only legit thing out of HBs mouth

wtf is going on here?!?!

Silent
03-05-2013, 12:14 PM
Coming from a new player, The exp nerf does suck leveling up for sure. It basically weeds out the hardcore/lots of free time players from the semi casuals, Up until like 40 I have just started seeing some pvp action and with majority of people already 50+ you literally NEED to be on the other side of the level gap. I have enough free time that I can get by with exp how it is, But I see how it deters other people who either don't work at home or work normal long hours and only have a few hours at most to play a day at max if they ignore everything else irl.

Tarwine
03-05-2013, 12:20 PM
+75% exp seemed like a good balance for a pvp server, probably why pop was increasing steadily.

SamwiseRed
03-05-2013, 12:23 PM
Did someone say +75% XP

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6v1m73ROJ1qizfmwo1_250.gif

Swish
03-05-2013, 12:23 PM
Yeah, players with low amounts of spare time...forced to solo or LFG and log back to blue.

The catch 22 of the server. XP bonus eventually brings a new population, people find groups and level too quickly.

XP bonus is taken away (sorry..."reduced"), people can't find groups and either level solo at a snail's pace (for the hardcore only it must be said), or go back to EZ mode blue where groups are guaranteed.

How many 60s would have made it to 60 with the current XP rate?

HippoNipple
03-05-2013, 12:24 PM
Coming from a new player, The exp nerf does suck leveling up for sure. It basically weeds out the hardcore/lots of free time players from the semi casuals, Up until like 40 I have just started seeing some pvp action and with majority of people already 50+ you literally NEED to be on the other side of the level gap. I have enough free time that I can get by with exp how it is, But I see how it deters other people who either don't work at home or work normal long hours and only have a few hours at most to play a day at max if they ignore everything else irl.

My character was created in December of 2011 and I'm level 42. This grind is great.

Nirgon
03-05-2013, 12:46 PM
There's almost no one to level with.

More solo grind box than pvp box that people are expecting when they roll here really.

Grind 35 lvls without pvp or anyone else to group w/? Yeah most won't stick around.

And when you get to 52? Bundies are out lurking to bard stomp you with a caster pal.

Stasis01
03-05-2013, 01:16 PM
Yeah the previous exp bonus wasn't making it easymode - but was allowing population to increase, almost over 200 nightly for a week or so... knee jerk changes back to snail exp when the population is finally climbing is fucking stupid.

It wasn't even that fast which is the funny part.

HippoNipple
03-05-2013, 01:20 PM
Yeah the previous exp bonus wasn't making it easymode - but was allowing population to increase, almost over 200 nightly for a week or so... knee jerk changes back to snail exp when the population is finally climbing is fucking stupid.

It wasn't even that fast which is the funny part.

As much as it helps to have that extra exp bonus it is equally important for players to come here and not feel screwed because everyone else got a benefit they did not. That feeling of missing out on something really hurts the chances of someone staying, even if it was something small.

It seems like most of the population is here because there is nothing else. It would be nice to make this server so that people choose it because it is awesome. The people have spoken and there are obvious changes along with some controversial changes.

Obvious
- change exp bonus to what it was so everyone gets a shot at it
- Yellow text
- no exp penalty on pvp death

controversial
- changing pvp level range
- put in item loot

I get why the pvp level range and item loot hasn't been put back in but the obvious changes should happen. I don't think the server has much of a threat of losing the main pvp crowd but I wish it would try to attract new players instead of being content as the only option.

Stasis01
03-05-2013, 01:22 PM
Well I lvl'd a rogue with rusty daggers sucking cock for groups, new ppl missed out on it.

HippoNipple
03-05-2013, 01:26 PM
Well I lvl'd a rogue with rusty daggers sucking cock for groups, new ppl missed out on it.

Missed out on getting a BJ or having a rogue with crappy dps?

Tomatoking
03-05-2013, 01:32 PM
Coming from a new player, The exp nerf does suck leveling up for sure. It basically weeds out the hardcore/lots of free time players from the semi casuals, Up until like 40 I have just started seeing some pvp action and with majority of people already 50+ you literally NEED to be on the other side of the level gap. I have enough free time that I can get by with exp how it is, But I see how it deters other people who either don't work at home or work normal long hours and only have a few hours at most to play a day at max if they ignore everything else irl.

and we all know how fun a server full of hardcores is

you need casuals for a decent social environment

Tomatoking
03-05-2013, 01:34 PM
Well I lvl'd a rogue with rusty daggers sucking cock for groups, new ppl missed out on it.

you leveled with a crew

new people have no one to level with at all

as for the sucking cock part im sure you arent lying

Jarlon
03-05-2013, 02:09 PM
XP back please , I started up on red with that as a major incentive and haven't been able to get the motivation to Solo without good xp on a lower pop server.

SamwiseRed
03-05-2013, 02:12 PM
so you joined red to solo to 60. wow you realize this is a pvp server right?

Smedy
03-05-2013, 02:18 PM
hard to find groups , soloing as a melee to hard, shits unclassic dog need no irl going on to really do it big unless youre a caster

Nizzarr
03-05-2013, 02:28 PM
really hard to find groups, when you dare asking in OOC about it, you get set up into a gank by sebilis geared twinks.

SamwiseRed
03-05-2013, 02:29 PM
i get asked to group in solb

lol fuck that

Smedy
03-05-2013, 02:31 PM
Ya actually the xp might not need a bump but group exp surely does, funny part was on my monk i was making better solo then grouping, cause group xp is retarded slow even though you're killing nonstop, shit might be classic but brad mquaid never made another good game, pretty sure eq is a fluke, he is retarded.

Smedy
03-05-2013, 02:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4mNqoCYQ0Q&list=UUr5AIiKU3hzCofgf3Bs-K0A&index=1

nuff said

Handpartytowel
03-05-2013, 03:02 PM
it isnt that there is some magical % xp that will cause hordes of new people to join. it is part of a bigger issue that this server, unlike all other mmo's in the history of the internet, has a policy of continuously making character development harder for new players.

xp gets worse without any notice or explanation every few months.
prenerf things like guise are removed, dungeons have lots of random see invis added, fungi made more rare, raptors not charmable by druids to xp on, recharging things allowed for a month and taken out, various exploits allowed for months now illegal, TD made unbindable, in all cases making it harder or in some cases impossible for new players to achieve same level of character development as someone that started a few months before them.

nilbog
03-05-2013, 03:04 PM
Since epics are now live, these should have been updated. Live on pvp as of now.



Max skill level for tradeskills is 250, up from 200.
Two Handed weapons receive a delay bonus.
Monk Weight is 14 for lvls 1-54, 18 for lvls 55-59, and 22 for lvl 60s

heartbrand
03-05-2013, 03:06 PM
it isnt that there is some magical % xp that will cause hordes of new people to join. it is part of a bigger issue that this server, unlike all other mmo's in the history of the internet, has a policy of continuously making character development harder for new players.

xp gets worse without any notice or explanation every few months.
prenerf things like guise are removed, dungeons have lots of random see invis added, fungi made more rare, raptors not charmable by druids to xp on, recharging things allowed for a month and taken out, various exploits allowed for months now illegal, TD made unbindable, in all cases making it harder or in some cases impossible for new players to achieve same level of character development as someone that started a few months before them.

That's the entire point of legacy items and what makes them special. If you want to play a game where everyone can get the same gear play wow. I agree on XP tho.

Justown
03-05-2013, 03:11 PM
I like how the same people who were flaming everyone for crying about the XP being lowered are now begging for it to come back.

Cleanser_Of_Evil
03-05-2013, 03:25 PM
Like mentioned before, Put is good xp bonus for groups, more alts, more groups more people.. people rolling from blue with friends.. end of story

HippoNipple
03-05-2013, 03:36 PM
I like how the same people who were flaming everyone for crying about the XP being lowered are now begging for it to come back.

I don't think the people that were flaming are begging, because they are probably level 60 already. It is just obvious with the population and how slow exp has become that they were wrong. This server has exp loss with PvP death, that alone warrants the exp bonus. Making a PvP death cost an hour of leveling is a terrible idea. Anything more than a half hour is too much and makes the game boring. Anyone that would sacrifice a pvp death to zerg when losing 15 minutes + of grinding is a psycho and isn't worth changing server rules for.

Rettii
03-05-2013, 03:44 PM
Like mentioned before, Put is good xp bonus for groups, more alts, more groups more people.. people rolling from blue with friends.. end of story

Justown
03-05-2013, 03:54 PM
I don't think the people that were flaming are begging, because they are probably level 60 already. It is just obvious with the population and how slow exp has become that they were wrong. This server has exp loss with PvP death, that alone warrants the exp bonus. Making a PvP death cost an hour of leveling is a terrible idea. Anything more than a half hour is too much and makes the game boring. Anyone that would sacrifice a pvp death to zerg when losing 15 minutes + of grinding is a psycho and isn't worth changing server rules for.


I agree that the XP bonus should come back....or atleast take xp death out for PVP especially because half (probably more) find it neccessary to corpse camp people. I was one of the people who started back on this server right when they took the XP bonus away. I called that the server population would die some because i had other friends that were looking to come play and when they heard the xp bonus was gone....they weren't in anymore. All I was saying is some of the very names in this thread told me "stop qqing" "shits classic brah" ect ect....and now they are saying they want the XP bonus back because of the population drop, just as many people as well as myself called would happen. Instead of agreeing at the time these people felt the need to moch anyone who wanted the XP bonus. Just sayin...

Clearrain
03-05-2013, 07:29 PM
Xp is fine. L2 Grind. Put in work and stop beggin for free XPs. That or go play wow. They have rested Xpz. ya fegs.


How about instead of PvEing on a PvP server because I need to spend 50439043 hours just to get to the pvp at 50, I play Counter Strike instead for instant access to PvP.

Deal with it, there are other games than WoW and EQEmu out there. Ones with "PvP"

Clearrain
03-05-2013, 07:33 PM
Those issues are not pressing. The unclassic population levels are.