View Full Version : Lazy players on this server.
Vladesch
03-13-2013, 08:20 PM
What is it with the large numbers of players on this server who are inattentive or just go afk all the time when they are in groups. It also seems the class most represented are necros. Just about every time I have had a necro in the group they are continually going afk, or if they are not afk they just sit there doing nothing. No spells, no pet attack.
I played on live for about 5 years and I never remember having to play with as many lazy players as I see here.
Then theres the people who announce a 10 minute afk (fine) but then come back in 30+ mins and inform the group that they must log. Thanks for mooching half an hour of xp from everyone.
I know it isnt going to win any popularity contests, but when I'm leader I just kick people who are afk or who aren't pulling their weight. I always get the standard quota of abuse back of course.
/end rant
Thulack
03-13-2013, 08:24 PM
What is it with the large numbers of players on this server who are inattentive or just go afk all the time when they are in groups. It also seems the class most represented are necros. Just about every time I have had a necro in the group they are continually going afk, or if they are not afk they just sit there doing nothing. No spells, no pet attack.
I played on live for about 5 years and I never remember having to play with as many lazy players as I see here.
Then theres the people who announce a 10 minute afk (fine) but then come back in 30+ mins and inform the group that they must log. Thanks for mooching half an hour of xp from everyone.
I know it isnt going to win any popularity contests, but when I'm leader I just kick people who are afk or who aren't pulling their weight. I always get the standard quota of abuse back of course.
/end rant
This is what you do. i dont group much but when i do i guess i have been lucky. get few afkers here and there but if your gone for more then 20 mins you can find somewhere else to mooch.
planeofdreams
03-13-2013, 08:37 PM
This is classic. Also, we have another place for rants. Thanks.
Tecmos Deception
03-13-2013, 08:42 PM
I know it isnt going to win any popularity contests, but when I'm leader I just kick people who are afk or who aren't pulling their weight. I always get the standard quota of abuse back of course.
You minmaxers make me sick! This game isn't a job for everyone! I'm rich and married to a supermodel IRL! I don't have time to actually play! You're so selfish for not letting me leach xp! Ogre's aren't the best warriors or shamans! This economy sucks! PLing is evil! New server please!
Sularus Oth Mithas
03-13-2013, 09:30 PM
Heh I was thinking about a necro since I am returning because I remember them being able to solo so easily. I don't think it's for me though. See you on the inside.
Swish
03-13-2013, 09:34 PM
Yep kick them, they're usually not as AFK as people think - 9/10 times they're majestically back within the next 60 seconds asking for an invite again.
Sorry to interrupt your Netflix Mr Wizard, but we could do with some nukes as you're full mana...
Let them off twice, and on the 3rd kick you don't invite them back...I keep a mental note (Enterlooper in particular, is he/she still playing?) of people who do this too often.
Sirken
03-13-2013, 09:51 PM
good necros are gods gift to norrath.
bad/lazy necros are a plague on the entire class
SupaflyIRL
03-13-2013, 09:52 PM
good necros are gods gift to norrath.
bad/lazy necros are a plague on the entire class
Invite me to your groups and let me bring the good name to necros across Norrath!
Barkingturtle
03-13-2013, 10:05 PM
Just ban necros imo.
Just ban necros imo.
Pls go jeff
Dirtnap
03-14-2013, 02:52 AM
If someone spends a ton of time AFK, let them know they will get kicked. If they insist on AFKing after that, kick them.
kotton05
03-14-2013, 02:56 AM
Invite me to your groups and let me bring the good name to necros across Norrath!
ok will do
xarzzardorn
03-14-2013, 03:08 AM
if people wanted to pay attention all the time they would play wow
Harmonium
03-14-2013, 05:34 AM
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falkun
03-14-2013, 08:21 AM
good necros are gods gift to norrath.
bad/lazy necros are a plague on the entire class
Bards also tend to fall into this situation.
Bards also tend to fall into this situation.
One word; Mane. That is all ;)
Xiki101
03-14-2013, 08:38 AM
Yeah I hate when caster classes get a bad rep because of this. I love to group but seems like its very hard these days being a Wizard. I know we should only be quad kiting but its nice to play with people in dungeons every now and then and make some friends. If I go afk in the group i let them know. If its more than a 5 min afk, I tell the group whats going on and can kick me if needed. Ninja afker's can go to hell.
Xiki
Anyone ever had a Main Tank go ninja afk ? Its like WTF lol
Danth
03-14-2013, 08:50 AM
Wizards and Bards are also bad for this sort of behavior--worse than necromancers, probably. Wizards do it to the extent the class is often avoided by experience groups. Folks who AFK a lot tend to pick these types of classes because they can do it without seriously harming their groups for the most part.
I had a Cleric take an unannounced AFK for over half an hour on one occasion. It didn't matter since the wife was there to pick up the slack with her Shaman, but gave the group a laugh. One group member said that the same Cleric had wiped other groups doing the same thing.
Danth
Jokesteve
03-14-2013, 03:41 PM
Had a cleric do this to our group the other day, name is Greven.
Tuljin
03-14-2013, 04:03 PM
Tishan's Clash - 65 mana (dd stun)
Tishan's Discord - 130 mana (dd stun)
Draught of Jiva - 215 mana (interrupt nuke)
Concussion - 25 mana (hate reducer)
Atol's Spectral Shackles - 125 mana
Fetter - 75 mana
A good wizard stares at his spell window and chainstuns casters using his at least 3 interrupting spells he has memmed so his party isn't getting slowed, diseased, nuked, etcetc - you can stop a 1120dmg ice comet for 65 mana or stop a slow that ends up being thousands of lost DPS. A good wizard also is also great at CC between his fetter, snare, and stun. Another thing is is that all these spells are such low mana you can always have enough mana to greatly contribute to your group in high level dungeons, if you have your shit together. The powerful dungeon crawling wizard is a rare breed indeed - - - you will always be "OOM" if you think a wizard is just about "DPS" and "HURRRRRR - - - FIREBALL!!!!!!"
Without question the #1 lazy class is Cleric. Great clerics are fucking awesome, shitty clerics really suck. Most sit there BP healing at 70 or 80m and never toss out a single stun when a pet breaks or if a mob is running. And god forbid you toss out a root once in a while. Or god forbid you max out your evocation skill. Funny also how they aren't doing anything to begin with and they never check the spell window to see if someone ends up getting poisoned - - only till someone is like "shitshit I'm poisoned and almost dead" do you get a heal. Even funnier - if you have a good wizard in your party you're not getting poisoned or nuked really - making the cleric even lazier!
Waedawen
03-14-2013, 05:44 PM
if you have your shit together.
Without question the #1 lazy class is Cleric. Great clerics are fucking awesome, shitty clerics really suck.
raitheon
03-14-2013, 05:58 PM
Tishan's Clash - 65 mana (dd stun)
Tishan's Discord - 130 mana (dd stun)
Draught of Jiva - 215 mana (interrupt nuke)
Concussion - 25 mana (hate reducer)
Atol's Spectral Shackles - 125 mana
Fetter - 75 mana
A good wizard stares at his spell window and chainstuns casters using his at least 3 interrupting spells he has memmed so his party isn't getting slowed, diseased, nuked, etcetc - you can stop a 1120dmg ice comet for 65 mana or stop a slow that ends up being thousands of lost DPS. A good wizard also is also great at CC between his fetter, snare, and stun. Another thing is is that all these spells are such low mana you can always have enough mana to greatly contribute to your group in high level dungeons, if you have your shit together. The powerful dungeon crawling wizard is a rare breed indeed - - - you will always be "OOM" if you think a wizard is just about "DPS" and "HURRRRRR - - - FIREBALL!!!!!!"
its stuff like this that simply isn't known unless you've played the class extensively (or at least have more play time than i do apparently). So thank you for the input on the class - i have a buddy of mine who; admittedly is a great guy, rarely stuns though and prefers to lob fireballs (albiet he's in his teens)
Barkingturtle
03-14-2013, 06:10 PM
i have a buddy of mine who; admittedly is a great guy, rarely stuns though and prefers to lob fireballs (albiet he's in his teens)
Your buddy is actually way ahead of the curve since he won't get his first stun till 20.
slappytwotoes
03-15-2013, 01:24 PM
One word; Mane. That is all ;)
Had a cleric do this to our group the other day, name is Greven.
Just wanted to say I've grouped multiple times with both Mane and Greven and thought they were quality players... maybe they were having a bad day *shrug*
Also, dunno what it is but Seb brings out the worst in some people =/
eadric
03-15-2013, 01:35 PM
I run into afk casters now and then, but not any more than I did on live. Boot em. ;)
SupaflyIRL
03-15-2013, 01:37 PM
Tishan's Clash - 65 mana (dd stun)
Tishan's Discord - 130 mana (dd stun)
Draught of Jiva - 215 mana (interrupt nuke)
Concussion - 25 mana (hate reducer)
Atol's Spectral Shackles - 125 mana
Fetter - 75 mana
A good wizard stares at his spell window and chainstuns casters using his at least 3 interrupting spells he has memmed so his party isn't getting slowed, diseased, nuked, etcetc - you can stop a 1120dmg ice comet for 65 mana or stop a slow that ends up being thousands of lost DPS. A good wizard also is also great at CC between his fetter, snare, and stun. Another thing is is that all these spells are such low mana you can always have enough mana to greatly contribute to your group in high level dungeons, if you have your shit together. The powerful dungeon crawling wizard is a rare breed indeed - - - you will always be "OOM" if you think a wizard is just about "DPS" and "HURRRRRR - - - FIREBALL!!!!!!"
Without question the #1 lazy class is Cleric. Great clerics are fucking awesome, shitty clerics really suck. Most sit there BP healing at 70 or 80m and never toss out a single stun when a pet breaks or if a mob is running. And god forbid you toss out a root once in a while. Or god forbid you max out your evocation skill. Funny also how they aren't doing anything to begin with and they never check the spell window to see if someone ends up getting poisoned - - only till someone is like "shitshit I'm poisoned and almost dead" do you get a heal. Even funnier - if you have a good wizard in your party you're not getting poisoned or nuked really - making the cleric even lazier!
funny that i know exactly who this is with 4 posts and no identifying info hahahahaha
August
03-15-2013, 04:59 PM
The opposite of this is an enchanter.
I literally CAN'T afk in a group. If you aren't charming, you're not doing your job.
After 5 hours in a basement camp I just had to use the restroom. I said AFK, I need to use a restroom, please just kill my pet if it breaks while I'm gone.
I was gone maybe 40 seconds
I came back dead.
Clark
03-15-2013, 05:12 PM
There is a special breed of inconsiderate people who like to play here. Thankfully there are plenty of genuinely good players as well.
Clark
03-15-2013, 05:13 PM
The opposite of this is an enchanter.
I literally CAN'T afk in a group. If you aren't charming, you're not doing your job.
After 5 hours in a basement camp I just had to use the restroom. I said AFK, I need to use a restroom, please just kill my pet if it breaks while I'm gone.
I was gone maybe 40 seconds
I came back dead.
Ya usually better to force break charm, and have someone in group root cc the agro. That's pretty pathetic that they couldn't keep you alive though.
Xadion
03-15-2013, 05:24 PM
as a sk... When in a group, that I usually have to put together.. I make sure to get a war and monk, then I don't pull or tank and no one misses SK deeps, so afk we go! Brhahaahahahh
Lorraine
03-15-2013, 05:31 PM
as a sk... When in a group, that I usually have to put together.. I make sure to get a war and monk, then I don't pull or tank and no one misses SK deeps, so afk we go! Brhahaahahahh
+1 Like a boss
Though I have to say, it was hard to /afk my way to 60 after I got FA (and subsequently FD) - I mean the ability to Bash with 2handers boosted my DPS 100%, and some people seemed to notice it.
#brodoyouevenbash?
feanan
03-15-2013, 07:04 PM
Laziness knows no class. You can always run into people from any class who are distracted for whatever reason.
Though I gotta say, dude who bitches about clerics not nuking probably the same person who bitches after dying cause the cleric is OOM ;)
Of course, you also sound like one of those wizards who starts yelling in chat for heals when you get hit once, and don't shut up....ever. HEAL! HEAL ME! NEED HEALZ! YOU SUCK AS A CLERIC. HEAL NOW
webrunner5
03-15-2013, 09:39 PM
I think Bozo the Clown needs to play a Cleric and see how stressful it is. It is a thankless, no loot, can't even go to pee class on here next to a Chanter. All 3 of my highest toons are Healers. At times you wish you where a DPS class other than the tank that can take a break once in awhile. Or if you need to leave as a Healer the whole group breaks with no replacement. You have to be ready to group for hours as a Healer. No pop in and out stuff.
I completely agree with webrunner. After finally playing cleric myself, I appreciate what they do more than I ever did before. I find it more stressful than any other class I've played.
As to the thread topic, I've also noticed a regular phenomenon of outright xp moochers, and people falling asleep or otherwise afk for way too long in group. It's partly because there are so many potheads and drunks playing in proportion to who was playing in the past on live. There is also a larger percentage of players who are married and/or have kids to look after, or other live-in relatives or friends who demand their attention. People also multitask while playing much more than they did in the past. The game is free, and more than 10 years old. All of these things come naturally.
Back when I played on live, the things people used to do (all day, every day) to piss each other off like blatant and rampant training, killstealing, etc. were far worse than anything I've seen on this server.
Clark
03-16-2013, 04:25 AM
I completely agree with webrunner. After finally playing cleric myself, I appreciate what they do more than I ever did before. I find it more stressful than any other class I've played.
As to the thread topic, I've also noticed a regular phenomenon of outright xp moochers, and people falling asleep or otherwise afk for way too long in group. It's partly because there are so many potheads and drunks playing in proportion to who was playing in the past on live. There is also a larger percentage of players who are married and/or have kids to look after, or other live-in relatives or friends who demand their attention. People also multitask while playing much more than they did in the past. The game is free, and more than 10 years old. All of these things come naturally.
Back when I played on live, the things people used to do (all day, every day) to piss each other off like blatant and rampant training, killstealing, etc. were far worse than anything I've seen on this server.
you must have never played a bard xD you fortunate sob :)
Tasslehofp99
03-16-2013, 05:56 AM
I think Bozo the Clown needs to play a Cleric and see how stressful it is. It is a thankless, no loot, can't even go to pee class on here next to a Chanter. All 3 of my highest toons are Healers. At times you wish you where a DPS class other than the tank that can take a break once in awhile. Or if you need to leave as a Healer the whole group breaks with no replacement. You have to be ready to group for hours as a Healer. No pop in and out stuff.
Hehe, no loot? Clerics have some of, if not, the best gear available to them.
Thankless? Try playing druid or wizard.
webrunner5
03-16-2013, 09:22 AM
Hehe, no loot? Clerics have some of, if not, the best gear available to them.
Thankless? Try playing druid or wizard.
By my statement I meant you really can't be jumping up looting things because you have to be on your ass all the time medding. If you have the Epic the clicky helps a ton. But the cast time is scary on it. But yeh, you are right. A cleric can have as good of gear as a Tank. They just can't hit any mob to kill it worth a crap.
My highest healer is a Druid. Without CII I am in some big trouble healing a fast paced group. My Shaman works out the best, but you are doing something constantly on them. Canni dance, slows, buffs, debuffs, CC, sending in the Dog, etc. You talk about no time to Pee lol.
I find the Druid the least stressful to play of all my healers. The group knows that they can't have big pulls so it is a lot less fast paced with no haste or slows , or CH they know they can't get. So it is more relaxed I think. Plus when I run oom on the druid everyone gets to take a 5 minute break or more to get to FM lol. And with Hide as a Druid u can go Pee and not die very often. Not as fast XP but hey its better than none. :p
Jakaris
03-16-2013, 03:26 PM
I frequently go afk in-group on my enchanter, usually just to smoke a cigarette or walk my dog/both. Eevry time I do, I tell people im going afk, refresh all breezes and hastes, drop pet, kill it, then hide/invis. Very rarely I will have to go afk for more than something like that, and if I do I don't even say "Hey, Im going to go afk for up to 30 minutes", I say "Hey I'm going afk for along time, camping right here, TRY to keep a spot open, if not no biggie." And they usually keep it open, especially because I'm not being an xp-sponging ass.
Sizzle
03-16-2013, 03:39 PM
A lot of the time people don't pay attention on this server. Just lack of attention to anything that is going on. Its usually the mage, necro, or wizard. Damn pet classes don't know how to control their pets most of the time and wizards pretend to need to med through 5 to 10 fights at a time to nuke every 8th mob.
Jokesteve
03-16-2013, 04:07 PM
A lot of the time people don't pay attention on this server. Just lack of attention to anything that is going on. Its usually the mage, necro, or wizard. Damn pet classes don't know how to control their pets most of the time and wizards pretend to need to med through 5 to 10 fights at a time to nuke every 8th mob.
Full med from zero mana takes about 10 mins. So 5-10 fights seems about right if they are dumping all their mana at once.
let me tell u going from shaman to wizard was the greatest choice i ever made
webrunner5
03-17-2013, 09:00 AM
let me tell u going from shaman to wizard was the greatest choice i ever made
For good or bad lol??
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