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Waedawen
03-14-2013, 03:04 AM
So, damage shields still last 5 minutes... and not 15 minutes like they are supposed to.
We've been over this topic about 2 years ago, iirc, with an extremely distasteful end result.
I think it's time to revisit this little hinderance we have in game... a hinderance that exists for absolutely no reason at all.
webrunner5
03-14-2013, 06:06 AM
It used to last a lot longer a year ago or longer. They nerfed it.
rsloans84
03-14-2013, 07:21 AM
Should last longer but troll me if u want but im pretty sure druids blades arent suppose to work on lowbies it scaled with lvl .. Believe it only worked on 40 plus people.. My memory isnt greatest though enlighten me.
rsloans84
03-14-2013, 07:23 AM
Thorns were max ds u could do to lowbies... Dont get me wrong its amazing to have high end buffs
Elmarnieh
03-14-2013, 08:36 AM
As far as I remember they made a change in Luclin to prevent any 50+ or60+ buffs from working on anyone under 40, before that time though all buffs could be cast on anyone of any level.
Find evidence and post a bug report.
Find evidence and post a bug report.
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As far as I remember they made a change in Luclin to prevent any 50+ or60+ buffs from working on anyone under 40, before that time though all buffs could be cast on anyone of any level.
Fixed pending update per this bug report thread.
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=87452
rsloans84
03-14-2013, 07:40 PM
i was gonna look up the info and post it but someone did the work for me ... Winning
Treats
03-14-2013, 09:42 PM
So, damage shields still last 5 minutes... and not 15 minutes like they are supposed to.
We've been over this topic about 2 years ago, iirc, with an extremely distasteful end result.
I think it's time to revisit this little hinderance we have in game... a hinderance that exists for absolutely no reason at all.
Where do you get your info from?
It's no hinderance, it's fucking classic.
Legacy of Thorn
Damage Shield by 28 (L59)
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Classes: Dru (L59)
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Area Effect Range: 60 feet
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Skill: Abjuration
Allowable Targets: Full Group
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Resistance Check: Magic
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Mana Required: 350
Spell Duration: 6 seconds (L1) to 360 seconds (L60)
Duration Formula: 7
Casting Time: 3.0 seconds
Spell Recovery: 2.25 seconds
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Spell cast on you: You are surrounded by a thorny barrier.
Spell cast on someone: Soandso is surrounded by a thorny barrier.
Spell fades: The brambles fall away.
webrunner5
03-14-2013, 10:56 PM
As far as I remember they made a change in Luclin to prevent any 50+ or60+ buffs from working on anyone under 40, before that time though all buffs could be cast on anyone of any level.
It was past Luclin. I stood on the Stone near the Stone Bank in PoK and casted KEI till my tits fell off to even level one noobs for Plat. And got rich doing it. It may have been in Luclin but not at the launch. That was a long time ago. Can't remember if there where PoK stones or not back then when it changed?? I think there were.
KotBK
03-14-2013, 11:15 PM
It was past Luclin. I stood on the Stone near the Stone Bank in PoK and casted KeI to even level one noobs for Plat. And got rich doing it.
This is confirmed accurate, KEI was the biggest and easiest way to PL lowbies outside of melee and was greatly used. I don't know why the argument went from a duration on a spell to higher level spells not being effective on lower levels, but again the change discussed for PL purposes won't ever be seen here cause it was way past velious.
I do remember DS's lasting longer as well much like other buffs growing in duration as level/mana cost got higher, which here doesn't seem nearly as accurate. I will admit the exact time eludes me as it was many years ago, but i feel the old way on this server was closer to correct than this current duration.
webrunner5
03-14-2013, 11:35 PM
I do remember DS's lasting longer as well much like other buffs growing in duration as level/mana cost got higher, which here doesn't seem nearly as accurate. I will admit the exact time eludes me as it was many years ago, but i feel the old way on this server was closer to correct than this current duration.
I agree. DS's are broken. It was more accurate in the beginning on here.
Gadwen
03-15-2013, 07:02 AM
This is confirmed accurate, KEI was the biggest and easiest way to PL lowbies outside of melee and was greatly used. I don't know why the argument went from a duration on a spell to higher level spells not being effective on lower levels, but again the change discussed for PL purposes won't ever be seen here cause it was way past velious.
I do remember DS's lasting longer as well much like other buffs growing in duration as level/mana cost got higher, which here doesn't seem nearly as accurate. I will admit the exact time eludes me as it was many years ago, but i feel the old way on this server was closer to correct than this current duration.
As far as I remember they just closed a "loophole" if you want to call it such a thing that let you cast the spell on people below lvl 45 or 46. You could target yourself or another group member that was within level range and it could buff everyone in the group. I don't ever remember being able to cast natureskin, shield of blades, or C2 on lvl 1s.
webrunner5
03-15-2013, 07:51 AM
If I remember correctly I don't think a Ranger could buff low people but a Druid could?
TWDL_Prexus
03-15-2013, 08:41 AM
I'm pretty sure no 51+ SINGLE target buffs landed on people below level 46. I specificially remember during Kunark my alt not being able to get Heroism, but Heroic Bond worked no problem.
diplo
03-15-2013, 08:54 AM
I'm pretty sure no 51+ SINGLE target buffs landed on people below level 46. I specificially remember during Kunark my alt not being able to get Heroism, but Heroic Bond worked no problem.
i had to invite them to group and cast group ds to ds noobs.
murcielago200
03-15-2013, 09:35 AM
I remember in Luclin sitting in Palaudal Caverns singing my bard aoe mana / health regen song and PLing tons of Newbs at the same time. I would leave it afk like that for all night. Within a few months of me leaving it like that every night that got implemented where it couldn't be cast in less then level 46 but I know it was a level 64 song so had to be PoP.
TWDL_Prexus
03-15-2013, 09:41 AM
i had to invite them to group and cast group ds to ds noobs.
Exactly. I quit during Velious. I never played any expansions past that. I'm sure this was implemented during Kunark.
Silo69
03-15-2013, 11:54 AM
i had kei
i sold it alot
but i had to be invited to a group to cast on anyone under 45
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