View Full Version : The End of all Arguements Regarding Raiding
Shrubwise
06-23-2010, 02:07 AM
1. Make all Raid zones PvP.
2. FFA rules, let the guilds sort it out.
DONE.
bullet
06-23-2010, 02:16 AM
1. Make all Raid zones PvP.
2. FFA rules, let the guilds sort it out.
DONE.
http://ucp.totfarm.com/pics/pic_12160756244942.jpg
Pyrocat
06-23-2010, 04:09 AM
Came expecting a wall of text, left satisfied.
Mass chaos
Won't ever happen
BeelzeBob
06-23-2010, 07:24 AM
MESSAGE OF THE DAY: Welcome to Thunderdome, Bitch!
guineapig
06-23-2010, 07:59 AM
MESSAGE OF THE DAY: Welcome to Thunderdome, Bitch!
2 guilds enter!
One guild cries!
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r209/Kimballdavenport/Mad20Max.jpg
Omnimorph
06-23-2010, 08:18 AM
First 2 guilds to get to the zone enter into... MORTAL KOMBAT! 5 duels, your top players, only allowing 1 of each class to participate. First to 3 wins.
Select your fighter!
Thac0
06-23-2010, 09:44 AM
1. Make all Raid zones PvP.
2. FFA rules, let the guilds sort it out.
DONE.
So who would be Tina Turner in that scenario? :p
Kainzo
06-23-2010, 09:45 AM
So who would be Tina Turner in that scenario? :p
Rogean?
guineapig
06-23-2010, 10:06 AM
Oh no you didn't!
Twani
06-23-2010, 10:12 AM
OMG, that is such a good idea!!
Have 5 members battle it out!!! Yay!!!
Earn some respect too with that scenario!
DOOOOO IT!!
Twani
06-23-2010, 10:13 AM
two enchanters battling it out!!
useless pets
Mezz.... 6 hours gone by
Mezz..... lol
I keeeeeeeeeed, enchanters are dangerous
Mez..... 9 hours gone by
Thac0
06-23-2010, 10:16 AM
two enchanters battling it out!!
useless pets
Mezz.... 6 hours gone by
Mezz..... lol
I keeeeeeeeeed, enchanters are dangerous
Mez..... 9 hours gone by"Well ain't we a pair Raggedy Man..."
Dac321
06-23-2010, 10:26 AM
Lets see what Bob has to say about FFA... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLT2sM4pOCo&feature=related
guineapig
06-23-2010, 10:31 AM
two enchanters battling it out!!
useless pets
Mezz.... 6 hours gone by
Mezz..... lol
I keeeeeeeeeed, enchanters are dangerous
Mez..... 9 hours gone by
Oh no you didn't!
This solution worked very well on Rallos Zek.
Although doing it in raid zones only tends to favor the large zerg guilds. Something like pvp at levels 40+ with the +/- 4 level attack range allows for a more level playing field... the smaller guilds can engage the larger guilds in wars of attrition.
I don't think I ever heard one whine about raid spawns.
I have to say , that would be ridiculously fun.
Probably not as fun as /guildwar though which would be awesome.
Coalrymer
06-23-2010, 03:10 PM
I would just be happy with some pvp personally =D
rioisk
06-23-2010, 07:41 PM
just flag raid zones as PvP...make areas around Vox/Naggy's lair PvP......that'll test the guts of everybody.
azxten
06-23-2010, 07:48 PM
The lack of PvP is actually my only complaint about P99. Sometimes as I'm leveling up I think, why bother? I'll get to 50 and then the game is essentially over unless you start alts because I've never really cared for raiding especially not the kind of bullshit multiday long raid camps here.
Rallos rules would be stupid though, everyone knows +/- 8 levels, coin only drop, race based team PvP was the best PvP ever in EQ because of its mass appeal. Sure, I played Rallos, Sullon, and even Discord but those were very niche rulesets whereas the team servers even appealed to newbs because you were relatively safe if you stuck to your teams dungeons and such. Only thing that ruined it was cross race guilds being allowed that would then port healers in and such on the same team as you so they could invulnerable heal against you.
Lazortag
06-23-2010, 08:35 PM
PvP is opt-in (priest of discords + arenas etc.). Everyone who wants PvP can have it, and everyone who doesn't want it can choose not to have it. This is essentially the same as having a PvP server. Your complaint isn't so much about the server's rules but about the small number of people who also want PvP.
The lack of PvP is actually my only complaint about P99. Sometimes as I'm leveling up I think, why bother? I'll get to 50 and then the game is essentially over unless you start alts because I've never really cared for raiding especially not the kind of bullshit multiday long raid camps here.
Rallos rules would be stupid though, everyone knows +/- 8 levels, coin only drop, race based team PvP was the best PvP ever in EQ because of its mass appeal. Sure, I played Rallos, Sullon, and even Discord but those were very niche rulesets whereas the team servers even appealed to newbs because you were relatively safe if you stuck to your teams dungeons and such. Only thing that ruined it was cross race guilds being allowed that would then port healers in and such on the same team as you so they could invulnerable heal against you.
This is why im basically not playing till Kunark hits. Ive seen the content once, its not fun enough (to me) to roll another alt or play afk sit for a week. I know it wasnt a pvp server when i rolled here so im not complaining its just... not gonna play. I would probably be considering playing if raid mobs were FFA but with this claimed stuff... no adrenaline.
1. Make all Raid zones PvP.
2. FFA rules, let the guilds sort it out.
DONE.
I approve of this. 100%.
Bring it on! Pansies!
Bogart
06-23-2010, 09:15 PM
PvP is opt-in (priest of discords + arenas etc.). Everyone who wants PvP can have it, and everyone who doesn't want it can choose not to have it. This is essentially the same as having a PvP server. Your complaint isn't so much about the server's rules but about the small number of people who also want PvP.
really?
Xenephex
06-23-2010, 09:32 PM
Many years ago a GM on the test server got called into a dispute in HHK between multiple people about ks'ing, camp stealing, etc. etc. Evidently everyone was yelling and complaining and bitching all at once.
The GM finally just got tired of it and turned on everyone's pvp switch and left. One of the best things I've ever heard of in game.
PvP is opt-in (priest of discords + arenas etc.). Everyone who wants PvP can have it, and everyone who doesn't want it can choose not to have it. This is essentially the same as having a PvP server. Your complaint isn't so much about the server's rules but about the small number of people who also want PvP.
I think that the major difference is reds cant group with blues. On a pvp server everyone was red so finding groups was not a problem. Maybe the pvpers could go with a "start a red toon today" day... Thats what i was thinking of doing, going red with my mage. I had already asked and proposed that reds could be tweaked to be able to group with blues, dont know how hard it is to code.
Coalrymer
06-24-2010, 02:07 PM
The lack of PvP is actually my only complaint about P99. Sometimes as I'm leveling up I think, why bother? I'll get to 50 and then the game is essentially over unless you start alts because I've never really cared for raiding especially not the kind of bullshit multiday long raid camps here.
Rallos rules would be stupid though, everyone knows +/- 8 levels, coin only drop, race based team PvP was the best PvP ever in EQ because of its mass appeal. Sure, I played Rallos, Sullon, and even Discord but those were very niche rulesets whereas the team servers even appealed to newbs because you were relatively safe if you stuck to your teams dungeons and such. Only thing that ruined it was cross race guilds being allowed that would then port healers in and such on the same team as you so they could invulnerable heal against you.
Vallon zek rules!!!! loved it... gotta love them damn immy healers too... miss those days...
rioisk
06-24-2010, 05:58 PM
I think that the major difference is reds cant group with blues. On a pvp server everyone was red so finding groups was not a problem. Maybe the pvpers could go with a "start a red toon today" day... Thats what i was thinking of doing, going red with my mage. I had already asked and proposed that reds could be tweaked to be able to group with blues, dont know how hard it is to code.
I agree, if reds could group with blues + receive buffs/etc I would have gone red day 1. I think this is a good idea.
gnomishfirework
06-24-2010, 06:05 PM
I agree, if reds could group with blues + receive buffs/etc I would have gone red day 1. I think this is a good idea.
Then red brings blue friend along to heal.
There isn't really a good way to do it.
Then red brings blue friend along to heal.
There isn't really a good way to do it.
Blue becomes red for 5 mins, p99 becomes pvp server. I have seen the future! XD
Noleafclover
06-25-2010, 06:17 AM
Wouldn't be too tough to organize a PVP day, if you set it up long enough before hand some people would go red that day, esp. if you set a particular battleground - like EC or something. Get your fix that way.
Leokaiser
06-25-2010, 07:53 AM
I love PvP... in games that are designed around PvP, which let's face it, doesn't cover EQ. Fair play to you if you managed to survive and play well on one of Live's PvP servers, but I doubt too many people would be happy to sign up to a PvE server that later switches to PvP - especially if you rolled a crappy class for it.
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