Emerald Dream - WoW Classic Server

[porigromus]

I enjoy my time on Project 1999 and on a WoW classic server as well called Emerald Dream. This server is the quality of project 1999 when it comes to legit WoW classic servers.

I was curious to who of you enjoy classic WoW as you do classic EQ for different reasons? I enjoy both in their own right. My friend and I when WoW came out originally leveled through dungeons only. We skipped all quest except some dungeon quest and leveled pretty darn quickly. I guess we played it as you would Everquest but had a blast.

He was a priest and I played warrior. We picked up whoever else and ran them over and over till they turned green. We stayed suited in all dungeon gear! :)

[Swish]

My tauren shaman was amazing in his early days, enhancement tree was seriously overpowered...big windfury hits made me smile, and I did a lot of work in the battlegrounds running flags, made Warlord (but couldn't be arsed to put the grind in to become a High Warlord, would have been another 4 weeks!).

Early day WoW pre-arena was definitely its best days. No horde paladins, no alliance shamenzes.

Big fan of instances too, the death of WoW for me was death knights - how fun is PvP when you're just yanked into 30 enemy and zerged? That and Blizzard nerfing the difficulty of raids so that everyone could do them in terrible gear.

If I had a computer that would run WoW at the moment I'd give it a go. A link to their site would be awesome for others :)

[Noselacri]

Vanilla WoW was alright, but mostly for nostalgia reasons. The gameplay was really rudimentary and I think pretty much everything was better in the first expansion. TBC perfected the raiding system, took a giant leap for class balance, fixed the pants-on-head retarded itemization from vanilla, and introduced heroic dungeons that were actually challenging and rewarding. The PvP side of the game is more a matter of taste, but there's no denying that the popularity of WoW PvP absolutely exploded with the introduction of arenas. World PvP was always garbage and battlegrounds lacked an ultimate purpose, but arenas introduced PvP as an entirely separate mode of gameplay, allowing people to PvP competitively without forcing them through the PvE treadmill first.

WotLK was a lot like Velious, though. It was perhaps the height of PvE, perfecting the raid scene but also pushing it beyond the point of no return in the process. Like Velious, WotLK brought the true separation between hardcore and normal players, thus marginalizing the latter. It created a huge cleft that divided the playerbase, and Blizzard's response was so panick-stricken that they ruined the game in their effort to revert their plunge into hardcoreism. The rest is history: gigantic, hamfisted leaps in the opposite direction, turning WoW into the watered-down casual shithole it is today. They had it right with TBC but tragically never thought to return to that.

[porigromus]

URL if anyone cares to take a look: http://www.emeralddream.com/

[Swish]

Sounds crazy but there's no clearly marked download link...anyone help me out? :p

[baub]

That's odd, it must have just started redirecting to forums for some reason in the last couple days.

Here you go: http://www.wow-one.com/forum/topic/135-1121-wow-client-download-and-install/

[Brutal_X]

Lol, I remember I twinked a 60 rogue awhile back... There was this rogue on my server who had full t3, Gressil and Kingsfall was crazy. ( This was back in like 2011 or so when old Naxx was gone.)

[EchoedTruth]

Great server, I have a 32 Human Lock on it :D

[porigromus]

Great server, I have a 32 Human Lock on it :D

cool, enjoying it so far

[MrSparkle001]

Actually WOTLK was very casual friendly and they reverted that with Cataclysm, which not coincidentally is when I quit (started with WOTLK, quit with Cata). I'm a very casual player by nature and am not into raiding if it requires more than two hour's time commitment in game and/or requires me to schedule playing time.

Cataclysm took a lot of heat for alienating casual players and causing a 2 million player exodus. Heck dungeons took two hours to complete. Not raids, dungeons. After WOTLK that was unacceptable and a lot of us left.

[OforOppression]

lol wotlk was not casual

dungeons were a method for gearing for raids, which was where the real content was. Catas mistake was trying to make dungeons an endgame.

Pandaria did it alright. For a gearing method, heroics are fine, back to their wotlk ease. If you want hard dungeons, you do challenge modes, which scale gear and are pretty much completely dependant on player skill.

Cata added LFR as well, which is probably the worst casual cesspool on the planet. Mechanics are ignorable and you can AFK through 75% of it.

[Noselacri]

MoP dungeons were far too easy and it's a problem because it let people get "raid-ready" without even the slightest clue of how to play. It's been an increasing problem in WoW and one that MoP made so much worse. The level 90 dungeons are so easy wipes are practically impossible, and it takes absolutely zero skill to do them succesfully. They're so easy they can be tanked by DPS warriors, healed by balance druids, can be facerolled/speedran in whatever shitty green quest gear you have the moment you ding 90, and take no effort at all. Heroics used to serve two purposes: gearing up and ensuring that players were somewhat proficient. They completely removed the latter, resulting in having to work with utter useless newbies at level 90 who are trying to enter the raid scene without any idea what they're doing. Trying to lead and recruit for a raid guild became a total nightmare because 29 out of 30 people were so bad at playing the game that they didn't belong in any form of endgame content, but you couldn't really tell because they had the gear that made their characters ready for it and so you had to sift through endless amounts of useless retards to find people actually worth inviting. It has turned WoW into a completely antisocial game because any stranger you meet is statistically almost guaranteed to be a total newbie who hasn't got a clue how to play since the game no longer teaches you that. It's now a game where you need connections to do anything, good guilds no longer recruit from the general population because it basically isn't possible anymore, the game doesn't teach people to play and you can't keep trialing worthless players. As a result, "breaking in" is impossible if you don't know somebody who can vouch for you. It has DESTROYED what little community there was left in WoW.

[OforOppression]

thanks for reading what i put. they made the dungeons easier and provided challenge modes for people who seek difficulty.

[Noselacri]

The challenge modes are irrelevant because the "heroic" gear (or what used to be heroic gear in previous expansions) drops from the normal dungeons. There's no reason to do challenge modes unless you simply enjoy it, and that has nothing to do with anything. The problem with today's WoW is that nothing ensures that players have met a certain standard by the time their characters are raid-ready. Up until MoP, you had to do heroic dungeons which, while not exactly rocket science, couldn't be farmed properly by a spastic 11yo in quest greens for the wrong spec. You had to at least formulate a decent build and not be completely retarded, and the dungeons were difficult enough that they taught you the basics of gameplay. This is no longer the case, so guilds either get flooded with applications from players that literally aren't good enough at the game to raid, or have increasingly turned into private cliques that will barely speak to you if you aren't RL friends with someone. It has obliterated the WoW community. Challenge modes serve no purpose at all because they don't have meaningful rewards and are not part of the gearing-up process.

[Swish]

I lost faith in the game when my warlord gear that I'd worked for weeks/months getting (rank grinding) was suddenly being dished out to anyone that wanted it, all because TBC was going to be released a couple of months later. As much as I wanted to play the arenas the people I knew just weren't interested or would play a few games but quit instantly because we lost 2 out of 3.

There's almost no point trying to be "good" at WoW, they just hand good shit out to anyone who can breathe. Doesn't surprise me that millions have dropped the game, especially with the Kung Fu Panda element added (swiping monks from EQ, not cool...making it appealing to even younger kids, not cool... making me feel like I'm too old to be playing the game, not cool) ;)

[Anesthia]

I tried ED multiple times. Nostalgia usually wore off in the teens. Only p99 keeps it real enough for me to stick around.

[baub]

Those special times when Azuregos is up

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[Calabee]

wow sucks, so does baub

ps: mr BAUBARIAN u should come back and join FE, i need primal essence on raids, thx~

<3 j00

[porigromus]

The challenge modes are irrelevant because the "heroic" gear (or what used to be heroic gear in previous expansions) drops from the normal dungeons. There's no reason to do challenge modes unless you simply enjoy it, and that has nothing to do with anything. The problem with today's WoW is that nothing ensures that players have met a certain standard by the time their characters are raid-ready. Up until MoP, you had to do heroic dungeons which, while not exactly rocket science, couldn't be farmed properly by a spastic 11yo in quest greens for the wrong spec. You had to at least formulate a decent build and not be completely retarded, and the dungeons were difficult enough that they taught you the basics of gameplay. This is no longer the case, so guilds either get flooded with applications from players that literally aren't good enough at the game to raid, or have increasingly turned into private cliques that will barely speak to you if you aren't RL friends with someone. It has obliterated the WoW community. Challenge modes serve no purpose at all because they don't have meaningful rewards and are not part of the gearing-up process.

WoW lost me when it lost CC in dungeons and when classes were all made the same.

[Swish]

Who's responsible? I'll death coil you I swear... and if Swish is a gnome with pink hair, i'll ddos the server :p

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[Grubbz]

Dont be a loser, Everyone knows TBC was the best expansion to any mmo - EVER!

[Stylez]

ED as got to be the most buggiest shit ive ever seen, Dungeons don't work 1-60 don't waste your time.

[Swish]

People asking to group for dungeons all the time. When did you last play?

[Junkman]

think he means there not scripted and they arent.. pretty much any emulator ive played out there does not have anything scripted its all buggy ass bs pretty much tank and spank for everything lol

[Lu|z Sect]

Junkman expert faggot PVEr on red.

[justin2090]

Big fan of instances too, the death of WoW for me was death knights - how fun is PvP when you're just yanked into 30 enemy and zerged?

Come on now Swish. I liked my Death kNIIIIght. Arena's were the best and it was so funny to BG against people who haven't arena'd ever. I hate saying anything in a game requires skill but my K/D ratio in BG's was way better after I arena'd for a season. I even smoked ass on my warrior a time or two.

You musta played a caster. I liked fighting casters = D

[Swish]

Come on now Swish. I liked my Death kNIIIIght. Arena's were the best and it was so funny to BG against people who haven't arena'd ever. I hate saying anything in a game requires skill but my K/D ratio in BG's was way better after I arena'd for a season. I even smoked ass on my warrior a time or two.

You musta played a caster. I liked fighting casters = D

I was the finest shaman flag carrier on my server in premade WSG :p. However as expansions were released the shaman pvp style I liked (enhancement) was nerfed again and again, so yeah I guess I was elemental by WOTLK and technically a caster :(

If DKs didn't have the ability to grab people out of a pack of 40 to be gang raped I think PvP would have been a lot more balanced.

We had a good premade group of about 20, who would all get together and organise PvP from about 4pm CET onwards, if we had 10 or under it would be WSG, up to 15 AB, and any more than that we'd put the remaining 5 on a waiting list or offer to swap people in and out.

Battlegrounds was where it was at for me. Arena, as competitive as it was...never lasted more than a minute or two, and immersion levels dropped.

[justin2090]

My healer was a resto shaman. A ranged spell interrupt? Yes please. Damn you!! Now I wanna play warcrack again. Neverrest emu or Warcrack emu that is the question.

[citizen1080]

My healer was a resto shaman. A ranged spell interrupt? Yes please. Damn you!! Now I wanna play warcrack again. Neverrest emu or Warcrack emu that is the question.

are those better than emerald?

[susvain0362]

Emereald dream blows them all away. Aq40 and naxx arent released yet. So you can still get to 60 and enjoy them from the beginning if u want. That was the biggest turning point for me, no aq or naxx yet. I wmanna relive those from the start again

[citizen1080]

Been so long...whats the class to be other than enhance sham in vanilla? I gotta roll ally to play with wife

[susvain0362]

Mage, war

[citizen1080]

Fury viable at this stage? or do I gotta go 2hder

[Swish]

Fury viable at this stage? or do I gotta go 2hder

Not sure if viable, was always the "second" choice during vanilla though.

[Stylez]

http://www.therebirth.net/ Best Scripted WoW server, Xp rate 1. Been up for like 2 years. you will have to look very hard to find a bug. Bad side pop reaches about 200, its slowly going back up. BWL just opened, only 1 boss down.

http://valkyrie-wow.com/ Got to be the second best 1xp server, but you can pay to win on this, reaches about 500 people, Better scripted then ED. AQ war effort, just going on.

The last 1x server ED, Where nothing works.

[Swish]

http://www.therebirth.net/ Best Scripted WoW server, Xp rate 1. Been up for like 2 years. you will have to look very hard to find a bug. Bad side pop reaches about 200, its slowly going back up. BWL just opened, only 1 boss down.

http://valkyrie-wow.com/ Got to be the second best 1xp server, but you can pay to win on this, reaches about 500 people, Better scripted then ED. AQ war effort, just going on.

The last 1x server ED, Where nothing works.

How are the GMs on those two servers? Any Sha-melinda type activity?

[Wotsirb401]

I remember Vanilla WoW. Rank 14 HWL orc warrior. I used to run around with WF shamans and clean out groups of 6-8 with cleave , whirlwinds. Great times!

[Wotsirb401]

Fury was sick, but MS was great with reducing heals by 50%

[Stylez]

Would be more then happy to make a p1999 guild on the rebirth, since its the one thats got things going for it.

[Swish]

Would be more then happy to make a p1999 guild on the rebirth, since its the one thats got things going for it.

Interested in giving this a try. Horde or horde? :P

[Wotsirb401]

For the Horde!

[Swish]

Good news is I got my name this time (Swish). Rolled an undead priest.

Hoping this is a growing server with a good staff.

[Clark]

No thanks

[Stylez]

Well i was alliance but i start again horde, just hope we get a solid group

[Spacebar]

Yeah, I have a 60 lock on Rebirth. I started when the server started, was about the second lvl 60 orc lock, and saved up for my epic mount selling a ton of runecloth bags. Was super happy, then the server pop all shifted to Scriptcraft.

Nice to hear that the server is picking up again with some new advertising and such. I'll have to find the realmlist and pop on again.

[citizen1080]

So...rolled on Rebirth as well as emerald dream. You sure Rebirth is the better and more popular server? I got all of my names right off the bat...makes me think there isn't that big of a user base lol.

[Swish]

So...rolled on Rebirth as well as emerald dream. You sure Rebirth is the better and more popular server? I got all of my names right off the bat...makes me think there isn't that big of a user base lol.

I had to stop before I got to Undercity, just nobody around...made worse by being a Euro player playing off peak :p

Going back to Emerald Dream I think, which is a shame.

[Stylez]

i never said it was a popular server, i said it had the worse pop out of both of them, but its the best scripted. You will have to have a keen eye to spot any bugs on that server

if we got a soild group going you will have way more fun here, because it just works.

[Stylez]

There is only 2 full 40 man guilds on the server that raid weekends, both euro. Raid ZG and WSG and AB run nightly, AV used to pop back in the day but not recently.

Someone starting a new guild tomorrow, everyone will start from level 1. Will be horde i think.

[Kika Maslyaka]

someone please point me to a Vanilla/BC wow server with 1x XP rate, that is NOT PvP...

[Swish]

someone please point me to a Vanilla/BC wow server with 1x XP rate, that is NOT PvP...

Emerald Dream would be it (vanilla):- www.emeralddream.com

[Kika Maslyaka]

umm but their FAQ says - World PvP?

[Stylez]

There isn't one.

[ramul]

Names on Emerald Dream? Rramull - Troll shammy.

[Nads]

umm but their FAQ says - World PvP?

Man up, no such thing as vanilla WoW without world PvP

[Kika Maslyaka]

not interested in any PvP other than say battlegrounds - I want to explore the zones I never seen and do the dungeons crawls.
If I want PvP I will load up UT2004 or go to GW2

[Swish]

not interested in any PvP other than say battlegrounds - I want to explore the zones I never seen and do the dungeons crawls.
If I want PvP I will load up UT2004 or go to GW2

Always enjoyed WoW pvp, particularly having some alliance kid log over to horde begging me to stop killing him :D Stranglethorn Vale? I'm gon' getcha :p

[Wotsirb401]

Making a toon now

[Wotsirb401]

Ran into an error where I cant change the name of the server list . I am stuck on vanilla gaming with my 34 orc warrior

[Chronoburn]

Actually WOTLK was very casual friendly and they reverted that with Cataclysm, which not coincidentally is when I quit (started with WOTLK, quit with Cata). I'm a very casual player by nature and am not into raiding if it requires more than two hour's time commitment in game and/or requires me to schedule playing time.

Cataclysm took a lot of heat for alienating casual players and causing a 2 million player exodus. Heck dungeons took two hours to complete. Not raids, dungeons. After WOTLK that was unacceptable and a lot of us left.

Everything about the game is casual ...

[Stylez]

New guild just started on the rebirth for new starters, or level 1,s so if you want to run every dungeon to 60. Join now its on the horde side and apparently doing very well.

[susvain0362]

Everything about the game is casual ...

Did you play WoW? Or are you just shitty at games? Stupid? Or blind EQ fanatic?

Ever hear of vanilla WoW rank 14 pvp grind? You know how insane/hardcore that was to get on a decently populated server? Alot more hardcore than anything in EQ.

Original naxx40? That was difficult raiding.

Everquest is a game where you press 3 buttons and auto attack endless of the same mobs for a really long time. Every raid is almost the same, its a tank and spank,or you need resist gear, or you get dispelled or ae nuked. Bosses also have 32k hp. Very hard game. I love eq but i loved wow too.

[Rellapse34]

Did you play WoW? Or are you just shitty at games? Stupid? Or blind EQ fanatic?

Ever hear of vanilla WoW rank 14 pvp grind? You know how insane/hardcore that was to get on a decently populated server? Alot more hardcore than anything in EQ.

Original naxx40? That was difficult raiding.

Everquest is a game where you press 3 buttons and auto attack endless of the same mobs for a really long time. Every raid is almost the same, its a tank and spank,or you need resist gear, or you get dispelled or ae nuked. Bosses also have 32k hp. Very hard game. I love eq but i loved wow too.

The server is 100% casual. The 2 world spawns Azuregos and Kazaak has been out for over 6 months now and one guild has dominated every spawn, much like Tmo here. Every guild is 2 scared of world pvp they just would rather sit in their instanced MC or BWL raid.

Rank 14 takes about a 2 months of hardcore grinding not even worth it when there is like 0 world pvp.

WoW raiding is boring on ED it is a rush to clear the shit as fast as u can, 2hour MC clears > log out for a week. In EQ you do not care if a fear raid lasts 2 or 8 hours if you're having fun.

[Swish]

Ever hear of vanilla WoW rank 14 pvp grind? You know how insane/hardcore that was to get on a decently populated server? Alot more hardcore than anything in EQ.


I made Rank 13 on horde, and just completely burnt out... if I wanted to grind to the High Warlord title it was another 3-4 weeks of topping the PvP table :(

On Emerald Dream (EU) we had a hardcore 10-20 man group depending on the time of day grinding WSG/AB but another team emerged and tried to stop our 1st Rank 13 dude from getting his High Warlord title, even though they weren't anywhere near it. So enter a hardcore grind :/

Anyway wasn't long after getting rank 13 myself, that Blizzard really pissed off a lot of the rank grinders by just giving out our items to every PvP noob and his dog for almost free...obviously that shitty trend would carry on for years when a new expansion was on the horizon.

[susvain0362]

I think it takes more than two months relapse. 13>14 alone is a minimum 3 weeks placing in the top 3? If you dont it can take a 4th week. I think atleast, been awhile. Getting top 5ranks requires barely sleeping, shits too much. What about the 4 world dragons? No one contests those either? Damn. Im omly lvl 30 on horde

And yeah swish, i got rank11 in vanilla while raiding 5days a week for the amazing troll raptor mount, then they just give it away to people for bg marks? It was weak

[Swish]

Yeah the PvP mounts were awesome ;)

I used to put the TV on late at night and grind runecloth out during that time where tons of supplies were needed. Managed to get exhalted with Orgrimmar (as a tauren) and got myself a wolf to replace the kodo....waaay better and worth the grind :D

[Stylez]

http://www.twitch.tv/strangetelevision, The rebirth population is jumping up in chunks now. don't get left behind!.