look whats up again

[Sirken]

http://emu.pwned.com/forum.php

we made our ban list public after we shut down VZTZ

[evilldacbane]

three years on vztz, never banned or suspended once. three months into this server, smallmee permabanned for using the word faggot.

free smallmee

[Smedy]

could you link directly to the list, im to lazy to browse bro

[evilldacbane]

Ligu Perma Banned
Acct ID:

IP: 67.84.132.205

Chars: Ligu, Backdoor, Noyiamospics

Duration: Permament

Reason: Blackmailing Piektz to leave the zone on a lvl 20 or he would post nude photos of Piektz sister (Noyiamo) in a open forum.

GM: Null

Comment: Lets leave him banned this time :P

[Reddi]

Need to see the pics

[Smedy]

may be available in smedys hidden archives, however these require some serious pixels thrown my way

[Nirgon]

^ that's joking about fucking RMT

ohmegad

[Nirgon]

Btw Sirkdawg, rellapse posted that ban list from blue over in dat other RNF.

It has spread its wings and flown like a big happy albatross.

[karsten]

real moobies trade

[Nirgon]

really manly tranny

[heals4reals]

Rowdy milf trades

[Stylez]

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EFFORT!

[hagard]

http://emu.pwned.com/showthread.php?13166-Suspended-Fiegi-30-days-(Crescent)-forum-ban-30-days
keegan sure did luv u chuck

[Tomato King3]

**** April 12th 2013 ****



Project 1999 Blue Server (PVE)

and

Project 1999 Red Server (PVP)

Both servers alive and thriving! Blue server peaks at about 1k players - Red server peaks at around 200 without boxing, but grows every day! GET IN THE GAME!

the best most legit classic EQ Server experience since original EQLive !!


Love Always
Sirken e'Lanti
Former VZTZ GM






Im not seeing a ban list?

[Sirken]

**** April 12th 2013 ****



Project 1999 Blue Server (PVE)

and

Project 1999 Red Server (PVP)

Both servers alive and thriving! Blue server peaks at about 1k players - Red server peaks at around 200 without boxing, but grows every day! GET IN THE GAME!

the best most legit classic EQ Server experience since original EQLive !!


Love Always
Sirken e'Lanti
Former VZTZ GM






Im not seeing a ban list?

did u try looking in the section called "Banned List"?
http://emu.pwned.com/forumdisplay.php?36-Banned-List

[Littlegyno 9.0]

Sirken my main dog. He tried to defend me from Saya/Zenaitha's insanity. Love you bro.

[Sirken]

Sirken my main dog. He tried to defend me from Saya/Zenaitha's insanity. Love you bro.

all i did was state my opinion, i in no way told them what to do ;)

[Tomato King3]

have to logi , someone cut and paste thx.

[Prince]

Chars: Jimmy and Tard

Duration: at least 7 day suspension

Reason: spamming /ooc channel, repeated use of the word "******" in public channels, repeatedly bind rushing in butcher block mtns, find players kiting mobs then griefing those players by dispelling those mobs so the mobs xp kill the player that was kiting them. and that was just yesterday, btw.


#YOLO

[Doors]

literally the worst ol player alive

[Stinkum]

sirken quit publicizing p99 on other servers pal aint a good look

[Faerie Blossom]

I don't want to make an account just to look at the ban list. Was anyone suspended/banned that plays here now?

[Silent]

I am glad you linked that, I read back 20 some pages. Recognized alot of names who play red99 now as well as people I played with and against back on VZTZ 1 2 and 3 box. I find it funny the MQ bans for insta gate and stuff like Whorella, shits classic. Thanks for the post. Now I know who I am playing with(some people kept same names, some changed them)

[Harrison Remembers]

Advocates use of public ban list

Tells people to hold their breaths indefinitely when asked to publicize "ban list" on P99

Lulz no one banned, confirmed

[quido]

Gets beat up for being Harrison

Blames on random gang violence

[Awwalike]

Gets beat up for being Harrison

Blames on random gang violence

why so much hate recently bro you were never so angry in dozekar

[quido]

??

[Feniggles]

I don't want to make an account just to look at the ban list. Was anyone suspended/banned that plays here now?

i know of a couple im sure sirken does, they got clean whistles now so no beef

[Sirken]

sirken quit publicizing p99 on other servers pal aint a good look
if you are talking about my posts on vztz, buzz off. as a forum mod over there i can post what i please.
if u are talking about posts on a different site, its not me, and they should be reported to that forum sites admin to have the acct banned imo.

[Alecta]

Little nostaglia tear for VZTZ.

[Agatha]

hahaha glisterin banned for bind camping. shits classic dogs.

[Pudge]

Little nostaglia tear for VZTZ.

Alecta! were you indeed GM Cottus?

[Alecta]

Yerp. One tiny non-mystery solved. ;)

[Pudge]

http://emu.pwned.com/showthread.php?13825-Detective-Cottus

[Tomato King3]

so no one on red was banned? boooring

[Kevynne]

did u try looking in the section called "Banned List"?
http://emu.pwned.com/forumdisplay.php?36-Banned-List

cant view.

[Sirken]

cant view.

play better

[Pudge]

so no one on red was banned? boooring

Nooo... ppl on red were banned. But you gotta search the GM forums. Also they under different names here mostly so... EQ PVP HISTORY. Learn it

(PS investigate my link and dem names. Who here plays nice?...!)

[Pudge]

Whorella dirtiest whistle next to crescent (using alt names to protect the not-at-all-innocent :[])

[Tomato King3]

post names of players banned on red or gtfo , too much garbage on thread and no lols or good info.

[Itap]

post names of players banned on red or gtfo , too much garbage on thread and no lols or good info.

you were banned for a reason, stop posting. For the love of everquest, please stop posting.

[Captivate]

Its called the ignore option bluebie..

[Itap]

Its called the ignore option bluebie..

ya, whats the point of ignore if he makes 20 forum accounts? :rolleyes:

[Tomato King3]

or 3,

and sorry if i was banned for calling out rmt and conspiracy.

either way you could have ignored me faster then typing your post which most likely means you want attention.

[SamwiseRed]

steaks when do i need to confirm or deny the deal we were talking about. i am looking into how much time/money it will cost now. got 2 days off to figure it out. also bro get a new vid card, finally doing big thangz in eve. these pizza guys are hilarious man and all about pvp. took out a 3 bil nightmare earlier, lulz were had.

[Prince]

That gm ban section is literally a summation of why gm enforced lns rules are retarded

[Harazzer]

Ligu Perma Banned
Acct ID:

IP: 67.84.132.205

Chars: Ligu, Backdoor, Noyiamospics

Duration: Permament

Reason: Blackmailing Piektz to leave the zone on a lvl 20 or he would post nude photos of Piektz sister (Noyiamo) in a open forum.

GM: Null

Comment: Lets leave him banned this time :P

Lol please tell me thats real ligu, real piek, and real annoyiamo? that would be hilarious. This is Harazzer from tz.

[Smedy]

Lol please tell me thats real ligu, real piek, and real annoyiamo? that would be hilarious. This is Harazzer from tz.

I remember you playing on vztz, you should come to red and leave that bluebie shit behind dog

[Stasis01]

Lol please tell me thats real ligu, real piek, and real annoyiamo? that would be hilarious. This is Harazzer from tz.

Sup Harazzer remember you and touch from guildwars this is Gaanon - red99 gona boom soon agree with smedy.

[Vile]

Lol please tell me thats real ligu, real piek, and real annoyiamo? that would be hilarious. This is Harazzer from tz.

yea it was them

[Num1RecommendedByDentists]

lol i remember piektz from 1.0, was like the only ranger on the entire server

[STILLnotMORNIN]

ball was tossed up
http://worldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2011/03/20/ku_bkc_iu_nk20_t960.jpg?b8ea04f16efcb7dc07c41fa674 167d6870b19a92



for the easy dunk
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mXgQPn9PISQ/T0El9CrNF-I/AAAAAAAAPGY/T9o7pFvOTEI/s1600/Blake%2BGriffin%2BAlley-Oop%2BDunk%2Bvs%2BWizards.jpg



ball was bricked
http://uploads.usatodayhss.com/images/61/a1/8a9eb19b4266b381db6ea549a414/MissedDunk.jpg



player benched
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRoSzulhyPqdrYhxuqOF6YwsGfUJmJ1m TbM8GDgu06cAQk_QX_4

As much as I think most bannings on this server are dumb.. ex. Smallmee and Rettiwalk.. This was a decent response. Sorta chuckled. More like just a half grin.

[Xantille]

Lol please tell me thats real ligu, real piek, and real annoyiamo? that would be hilarious. This is Harazzer from tz.

BUTTERPIG

[Tomato King3]

still no names post them plz and thanks

[fiegi 6.5]

keegan hated me damn

[Reddi]

ex. Smallmee and Rettiwalk..

Sirken

[Alecta]

That gm ban section is literally a summation of why gm enforced lns rules are retarded

Haha, I had to appreciate Sirken dealing with the shitheads. I ended up mostly doing dev stuff because good lord, I couldnt handle the player tears.

I'm curious if the P99 player base is any 'nicer' than the old VZTZ one.

[Num1RecommendedByDentists]

no it's actually worse

[hagard]

no it's actually worse

along with the player quality

[Pudge]

i'd say it's not as ugly as vztz. really

[Faerie Blossom]

From what I know of VZTZ, there is much less cheating here. Sometimes the ooc pissing contests can be annoying, but it's not that bad.

[Beastro]

i'd say it's not as ugly as vztz. really

With the ugly came the funny.

[Sirken]

I'm curious if the P99 player base is any 'nicer' than the old VZTZ one.

P99 crys a lot more than VZTZ. they cry about absolutely everything. (ie: /petition i dont read the rules, but im pretty sure this guy is breaking them. he keeps staring at my camp. please ban or im quitting this piece of shit server forever and my personal favorite, ie: /petition unban my accounts right now you fucking fagots).

R99 and VZTZ are similar. R99 players for some reason just LOVE to multipetition a problem.. they for some reason actually believe that spamming my petition queue is going to result in something positive for them. Also, the R99 community is 100x more douchbaggy than VZTZ ever was. VZTZ always kept that shit in game for the most part. on R99 as soon as there's an issue prepare for Wheelchair pictures, 4th grade insults, RL attacks, character strip/deletion, etc.

at the end of the day, i think people appreciated VZTZ more than R99 because the players knew back on VZTZ how unstable the situation was, especially at the end when it was just Voidd, Keegan, and myself. if VZTZ went away people had zero options at the time, and nobody wanted VZTZ to go away, so there was a certain line that wasn't crossed.
on R99 i think people take the server for granted because they know that they can do pretty much anything that they want, and R99 will still be here in the morning. there is no risk of losing the server, there is no instability, the staff doesnt hate each other, etc etc. the attitude around R99 for the most part is "Why should i be a decent human being if i dont get rewarded for being decent?" usually directly followed with something like "How can we get more players on the server". R99 would have easily another 100-200 players online if they werent griefed off the server by a douchebag fungi twink before they could even hit level 20.


common sense can save, or, condemn you.

[Xantille]

Pras sirken

[Handpartytowel]

+ yt solved everything.

[Reddi]

prolly get less petitions if rules were equal across everyone on server

[Faerie Blossom]

I lurked the VZTZ boards some, to see if I wanted to play there. Compared to the VZ boards, it looked like a cesspool and really turned me off of the project. Maybe I'm just not remembering it right, but it seemed much, much worse than these boards.

[Sirken]

Maybe I'm just not remembering it right, but it seemed much, much worse than these boards.

you are either remembering it wrong, or you didnt spend enough time on one of the boards. RL attacks, attacks on peoples children, posting RL info, stripping/deleting accounts, is primarily a R99 exclusive feature.

the "worst" thing that happened along those lines on vztz was "the wipe committee" video.

VZTZ's biggest down side was that VZTZ (and every other eqemu server besides R99/P99) was riddled with cheaters. to catch for MQ we usually had to to set up stings and manually catch them. luckily Rogean and Nilbog are much more knowledgeable in their respective fields than anyone from VZTZ ever was.

[Faerie Blossom]

you are either remembering it wrong, or you didnt spend enough time on one of the boards. RL attacks, attacks on peoples children, posting RL info, stripping/deleting accounts, is primarily a R99 exclusive feature.

the "worst" thing that happened along those lines on vztz was "the wipe committee" video.

VZTZ's biggest down side was that VZTZ (and every other eqemu server besides R99/P99) was riddled with cheaters. to catch for MQ we usually had to to set up stings and manually catch them. luckily Rogean and Nilbog are much more knowledgeable in their respective fields than anyone from VZTZ ever was.

Guess it's that I haven't spent enough time here yet. I haven't really seen any RL attacks, attacks on family or posting of RL info yet. What turned me off of VZTZ mostly fell into the "4th grade insults" category :/

[Sirken]

Guess it's that I haven't spent enough time here yet. I haven't really seen any RL attacks, attacks on family or posting of RL info yet. What turned me off of VZTZ mostly fell into the "4th grade insults" category :/

if R99's biggest problem was 4th grade insults, id run around nekkid jumping and celebrating before declaring victory and resigning from staff

[evilldacbane]

and my personal favorite, ie: /petition unban my accounts right now you fucking fagots).

[Stasis01]

if R99's biggest problem was 4th grade insults, id run around nekkid jumping and celebrating before declaring victory and resigning from staff

GM's acting impulsively and random with harsh punishments is one of the biggest problems here. One guy steals an account and strips it while nothing happens, then someone else does the same thing and eats a perma ban. One guild exploits nagafen, another guild goes and does it and receives suspensions.

GM's will interfere with the server, without real understanding about how much time both sides have put into their characters/guild and how much grief each side has given to each other and intervene with micky mouse bullshit all the time acting all high and mighty making you forced to grovel to get unbanned.

Hilarious rentacop type mentality - I don't know why I'm going on this big rant I'll probably be banned or targeted now in game since someones pride will be hurt. Either way being a volunteer part time rule enforcer picking off random bullshit when tension is this hot is what frustrates people the most.

Both guilds, both major sides full of people doing this type of shit for years fighting for control of the box putting in crazy hours are BOTH FURIOUS that GM'S show favoritism to the other side? How could that be? Perhaps both sides think the GMing is garbage and just stay out of it.

My mad post for the day - be insulted if you want, red99 had been the wild west since day 1. Either make a thread with specific PVP shit that will warrant what bans, a week or w/e or just fuck off - don't come in with minor game mechanic abuse and throw the hammer down it's crazy policy - I think it's just a power trip for some GM's, I see it in RL too some fucking faggot who got sand kicked in his face wants to act big because he has a little bit of power.

[hagard]

P99 crys a lot more than VZTZ.
Also, the R99 community is 100x more douchbaggy than VZTZ ever was.

those are totally sig worthy

[Stasis01]

I'll give some examples.

Same people spamming RL insults/negativity all day in OOC.

Training

Nagafen

Pathing in Solb/Perma

Ip exemption

Zoning into wall

Going behind a zoneline

CT Script

Account stealing/deletion even with a post saying it's legit from rogean

This is literally off the top of my head issues that GM's intervene HOW THEY FEEL AT THAT MOMENT AND WHO IT IS. Perhaps you shouldn't be looking at the players Sirken and maybe take a look at how you run the box and your policies/rules.

Maybe make a thread stickied saying if you break this rule you receive this punishment and actually enforce it fairly.

Rogean had a thread himself saying they arn't policing account info - if your account info gets out it's not their problem and then you PERMA ban someone for doing just that.

I don't even really give a fuck which is the funny thing, I just felt like you blaming the players is what got me fired up.

[hagard]

wait are you saying its the gms/devs fault people act like retards????

[Barladore]

R99 would have easily another 100-200 players online if they werent griefed off the server by a douchebag fungi twink before they could even hit level 20.



People make fungi twinks because leveling a melee/hybrid without one will cost them 25+ days of their life. The reason there isnt another 100-200 players on the server is because there is still a pvp death exp loss, no yellow text and no exp group bonus. There is always going to be immaturity in a gaming community.

[Stasis01]

I'd say it wouldn't be that hard to figure out who the retards are and why the situation is what it is - if you were actually involved and cared instead of just flexing random rules and judging people.

[Pudge]

you are either remembering it wrong, or you didnt spend enough time on one of the boards. RL attacks, attacks on peoples children, posting RL info, stripping/deleting accounts, is primarily a R99 exclusive feature.

the "worst" thing that happened along those lines on vztz was "the wipe committee" video.

VZTZ's biggest down side was that VZTZ (and every other eqemu server besides R99/P99) was riddled with cheaters. to catch for MQ we usually had to to set up stings and manually catch them. luckily Rogean and Nilbog are much more knowledgeable in their respective fields than anyone from VZTZ ever was.
Lol you don't remember "dankendad"? There are ppl with gifs of dankenstien's family, implying his dad raped his sister, etc. Still up there on the forums. Just look in the Cottus link, at the avatars

[Littlegyno 9.0]

Lol you don't remember "dankendad"? There are ppl with gifs of dankenstien's family, implying his dad raped his sister, etc. Still up there on the forums. Just look in the Cottus link, at the avatars

That shit was A+.

[Faerie Blossom]

I'll give some examples.

Same people spamming RL insults/negativity all day in OOC.

Training

Nagafen

Pathing in Solb/Perma

Ip exemption

Zoning into wall

Going behind a zoneline

CT Script

Account stealing/deletion even with a post saying it's legit from rogean

This is literally off the top of my head issues that GM's intervene HOW THEY FEEL AT THAT MOMENT AND WHO IT IS. Perhaps you shouldn't be looking at the players Sirken and maybe take a look at how you run the box and your policies/rules.

Maybe make a thread stickied saying if you break this rule you receive this punishment and actually enforce it fairly.

Rogean had a thread himself saying they arn't policing account info - if your account info gets out it's not their problem and then you PERMA ban someone for doing just that.

I don't even really give a fuck which is the funny thing, I just felt like you blaming the players is what got me fired up.

It's a shame that not everyone who has acted like a moron received a ban for it, but I can appreciate that some of them have. What's the problem here?

[hagard]

lets not get overly crazy with the bans unless yall like playing eq with the population set at 30

[heartbrand]

are you high? Rogean never said it was legit. he said you probably will not get your stuff back because u are responsible for your own acct info. that does not give you the fifth freedom to do as you please, and no where does it say people will not be punished if we can prove who did it.


deleting chars he has info to isnt technically against the rules. players are responsible for their own acct info

as far as rmt, send me proof

I have just had to tell another player they are screwed because yet again they gave their account information to someone they thought they trusted, and ended up getting a character stripped down and deleted.

Deleted characters we can restore, but they will be in the state they were when deleted. Stolen items we will not help you with. This is the internet, people have no problem stabbing eachother in the back with a friendly face.

You must not give your account information out, and in most cases we will not assist in these matters. I say in most cases because our guides have a mandate that they are in no way obligated to spend the massive amount of time it takes to track down and reverse it, nor can we always take a player's word that the actions were done maliciously. If a guide assist(s/ed) you, consider yourself lucky.. it is completely their discretion.

With that said, you should never give your password out, nor should you ever perform a trade with someone until both parties are ready with the items/currency (none of this "oh give me the item and I'll log onto my main and pay you" crap. We've been seeing an increase in this activity lately as well, sometimes the culprit even impersonating someone you may think is a friend, so be careful.)

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2651 is a link to server rules which covers all of this in depth [trololololololol newp]

[Sirken]

HB, most stolen items are not / can not be returned. its not just us being dicks.

[hagard]

dam I really didnt think deleting all his items and then replacing his char with a lvl 1 guy was wrong
common sense not so common

[heartbrand]

In a petition post you say deleting the char isn't punishable, here you're saying it is.

[hagard]

I thought he would have enjoyed rerolling a barb from lvl 1

[Stasis01]

You don't know about the IP exemption insta logging bug, or the zoning into TT wall bug? Ugh OK I'm starting to get an idea of what's going on here.

Too much discretion not enough knowledge is a bad fucking recipe.

Thanks for the quote HB this box is hilarious.

I need to make a sig saying let players solve the problems.

Did you know Mellow was stealing all the loot he could from the VP raid before leaving and trying to get people to come with him? Did you know he stole a bunch of Nihilum gear/accounts that other nihilum dedicated time to? Do you know anything that's going on beyond the actual incident that you punish? I would hope you look at scenarios and people in a bigger picture before condeming someones actions as being childish or rude.

I can tell you in RL if someone raped my kid I'd be taking a baseball bat to his head till he's dead - would that be considered bad behavior? Yeah if you look at the last incident.

God few drinks in me this won't go good.

[Pudge]

guys it isn't hard to understand. GM's can help you with char stripping "if they want." If they want to put in the time and effort to track down your gear, they can. If they don't want to because you're an asshole, or too many accounts are getting stripped/deleted, then they wont.

Before you give your account info out to others, ask yourself a question or two ("do the GMs think I'm an asshole and don't deserve their help if i fuck myself over by giving out my info to another douchebagger 'friend' of mine?") and determine your course of action.

[Stasis01]

LOL let's all grovel and suck GM's dicks so they give us favorite exceptions - cool story Pudge thanks for the insight this isn't why both guilds feel ripped off.

[Kraftwerk]

Also Heartbrand you highlighted te part that supports what Sirken is saying. IN MOST CASES. That doesn't mean 100% go nuts stripping accounts. If it warrants it, it will be punished.

You freaking mouthbreather.

[karsten]

like you being responsible for your own info on zibby yet the GMs banned 3 of tunak's accounts after he was an hero on them

cool, then yeah I agree with you

[Stasis01]

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[Stasis01]

I think Sirken was just using his discretion tho when changing his policy on the fly because he liked Rettiwalk - shits classic.

Rettiwalk took a tip from pudge prolly.

[Kraftwerk]

Paragraphs are your friend. Jesus Christ not reading any of that word jumble.

[hagard]

calm your beard

[heartbrand]

Before the Ender incident with Mellow, when Northwest had been deleted and stripped by Retti and it was known by everyone, that was the response I got from Sirken. Then a couple months later they decide stripping / deleting is now perma bannable, and not only that, accounts which get items are also bannable. It's this inconsistency people dislike you tards, not the actual punishment of people who do douchebag things.

[hagard]

how about yall stop being faggots and stealing eachothers shit?

[Kraftwerk]

I don't know if this is like your second or third forum account, or if you've been here before 2011 but I've been here on and off for few years and things are always in flux here. Hell Nilbog wants to ban acct selling so that's gonna rustle few feathers.

Rules change people change, get used to it.

[Stasis01]

Paragraphs are your friend. Jesus Christ not reading any of that word jumble.

holy shit you're stupid

[heartbrand]

Imagine you were on a highway and the speedlimit sign said, "there's no speed limit on this road, but we may decide to enforce one of any particular speed at any given time without warning," and then when they decide you're speeding they give you the death penalty. That's kinda how rules work on red99.

[hagard]

dangerzone

[Kraftwerk]

holy shit you're stupid

You literally just put a few hundred words into a run on sentence with no paragraphs and you're calling me stupid? No wonder you're in Nihilum.

[Stasis01]

Don't distract me retard move on.

[magician]

You literally just put a few hundred words into a run on sentence with no paragraphs and you're calling me stupid? No wonder you're in Nihilum.

Holy fuck you're dumb.

[Stasis01]

Just for you Solsek.

deleting chars he has info to isnt technically against the rules. players are responsible for their own acct info

deleting chars he has info to isnt technically against the rules. players are responsible for their own acct info

deleting chars he has info to isnt technically against the rules. players are responsible for their own acct info

deleting chars he has info to isnt technically against the rules. players are responsible for their own acct info

deleting chars he has info to isnt technically against the rules. players are responsible for their own acct info

[hagard]

except these people getting bans arent just simply cruising around minding their own business.
U guys are being retards and stripping/deleting chars which is blatant faggotry

[Kraftwerk]

How hard was that? Now you don't look like a retard.

Also I think magician is Dreyo, if so you're a fucking tard too so doubtful anyone outside of your butt buddies in Nilly give a shit what you say.

[Stasis01]

If someone deletes info and were told that's legit - obviously it's considered a legit strat.

This is a game - set the rules and we can follow them... If they're all discretion based you end up with this.

BTW Hagard do you even play? Why are you so concerned LOL.

[heartbrand]

I'll try one last time to explain for the real "special" people here. Blatant stripping / deleting went on such as with Rettiwalk of Northwest's accounts [multiple trak bps, VS greaves etc.] and we were told by Sirken ooops sorry shud take care of that info bros. Then it happened 2 someone else and every1 who ever touched an item on mellow account was banned. Not sure if serious or dum.

[Stasis01]

SOLSEK NOW THAT YOU'RE CAUGHT UP PLEASE GO AWAY.

[SamwiseRed]

how much paper did you make this tax season HB?

[Stasis01]

I'd explain another situation with Zade and my pal Minie but he'd be pissed at me for dragging it into open forum - so out of respect for probably the cleanest whistle on box I won't bother, since Sirken will just give me some bullshit anyway.

[Faerie Blossom]

Nihilum has made their point; can't we all wait for Sirken's response before letting things devolve into utter nonsense? :(

[Elderan]

Before the Ender incident with Mellow, when Northwest had been deleted and stripped by Retti and it was known by everyone, that was the response I got from Sirken. Then a couple months later they decide stripping / deleting is now perma bannable, and not only that, accounts which get items are also bannable. It's this inconsistency people dislike you tards, not the actual punishment of people who do douchebag things.

Sadly if the Nortwest issue had been handled right away like the Mellow issue was (NW took 3 months, Mellow took 4 days? And they were both restored on the same day) the Mellow issue would have never happened.

The first event triggered the other.

Personally in this case I would have restored everything. Not banned anyone. Then made an announcement stating the new rules and what punishment would be if they happened again.


This was the entire problem with the situation.

GM far too often look at things in a vacuum. They don't understand the circumstances surround the events which happened which leads to many problems.

[Kraftwerk]

I enjoy Nihilum crying way too much, like last night in ooc when you bitches wouldn't shut up about Cooler, or now when you bitches won't shut up about how you thought it was okay to delete hours and days of people's dedication and now that it isn't your feelings are hurt.

You're all fucking crybaby bitches. Of the vocal Nihilum members only Nizzarr isn't really a bitch, he just mans up and gets even. I can't imagine what your guild chat is like.

[SamwiseRed]

and this is why we cant have nice things, we have an active GM who actually posts on forums but everything he posts is broken down and ridiculed. this is an emulated everquest server, calm the fuck down.

[heartbrand]

Wasn't there a whole thread from Azrael members about how lol it was Rettiwalk owned Northwest and defending how if you give your info out it's your problem?

[SamwiseRed]

Sadly if the Nortwest issue had been handled right away like the Mellow issue was (NW took 3 months, Mellow took 4 days? And they were both restored on the same day) the Mellow issue would have never happened.

The first event triggered the other.

Personally in this case I would have restored everything. Not banned anyone. Then made an announcement stating the new rules and what punishment would be if they happened again.


This was the entire problem with the situation.

GM far too often look at things in a vacuum. They don't understand the circumstances surround the events which happened which leads to many problems.

what did mellow have to do with northwest's stripping/deleting?

[Pudge]

LOL let's all grovel and suck GM's dicks so they give us favorite exceptions - cool story Pudge thanks for the insight this isn't why both guilds feel ripped off.

i didn't say anyone needed to suck a dick to get their account back. i said if you're a known asshole (*AHRM, char deleter/stripper/oocdoucher/MQ2haxorbeenbanned3timesalready) they ain't gonna want to spend hours of their time digging through logs for ya.

easy to understand examples:
1. level 50 casual player returns to the server after a long hiatus, and gives his info to a new "friend" he made over the course of a couple days of leveling. "friend" strips char's manastone. >>GMs are likely to intervene.

2. Heartbrand gets stripped. >>GMs tell him he knows the risks, as he's stripped many accounts himself...

[Sirken]

Imagine you were on a highway and the speedlimit sign said, "there's no speed limit on this road, but we may decide to enforce one of any particular speed at any given time without warning," and then when they decide you're speeding they give you the death penalty. That's kinda how rules work on red99.

its more like, there's no speed limit, but if you crash into somebody else, you arent allowed back on the Autobahn ;)

[heartbrand]

Just to clarify, deleting chars SHOULD be bannable, but when it's inconsistently applied with contradicting rulings from the GM's themselves with no actual posted rules it's dumb. The biggest impetus for the Mellowyellow situation was that everyone was bragging about the Northwest deletion, including mellow, and we were told SORRY BROS GUARD UR INFOS. Had that been handled according to how Mellow case was handled, there would have never been a Mellow case.

[Stasis01]

what did mellow have to do with northwest's stripping/deleting?

There's this little thing in law called precedent mother fucker.

Moving on take care Sirken hope I impacted you a little - although in your head you probably think I'm just a complainer/cryer NP.

[Pudge]

Not sure if serious or dum.

[Yagebasto]

Throughout all this shit, there is a lot of truth. This server needs some maw fucking rules.... like now..

[Pudge]

There's this little thing in law called precedent mother fucker.

oh god. we already got real lawyers in here. please don't

[Xantille]

That shit was A+.

[Elderan]

what did mellow have to do with northwest's stripping/deleting?


Because Sirken told Northwest his account info was his responsibility and no action would be taken because he gave his info out.

By this statement Sirken basically gave permission it is ok to delete accounts you have been given the information to.

The Mellow incident would never have happened without Sirken first giving his permission for account/char deletions based on the Northwest incident.

[Elderan]

Precedent

In common law legal systems, a precedent or authority is a principle or rule established in a previous legal case that is either binding on or persuasive for a court or other tribunal when deciding subsequent cases with similar issues or facts.

Precedent was set in the Northwest case.

[Pudge]

mellow never gave his info out. they GUESSED his info (yea maybe mellow was dumb about his password). least that's what i heard

[heartbrand]

LOLOLOLOLLOL yaw ok they "guessed" his info

[Elderan]

mellow never gave his info out. they GUESSED his info (yea maybe mellow was dumb about his password). least this is what mellow told us

ya... and NW never gave his info out either..

Please people can talk until they are blue in the face. We know NW gave his info out and we know Mellow gave his out as well.

[SamwiseRed]

Because Sirken told Northwest his account info was his responsibility and no action would be taken because he gave his info out.

By this statement Sirken basically gave permission it is ok to delete accounts you have been given the information to.

The Mellow incident would never have happened without Sirken first giving his permission for account/char deletions based on the Northwest incident.

what i was asking is why delete mellow for northwest getting deleted by someone else? he had nothing to do with it.

[SamwiseRed]

so because someone got away with murder, you thought it would be okay to commit the same act? not sure if srs or dum

[heartbrand]

what you're not getting is we were told "murder is ok here bros"

[Elderan]

what i was asking is why delete mellow for northwest getting deleted by someone else? he had nothing to do with it.

Did you know Mellow was stealing all the loot he could from the VP raid before leaving and trying to get people to come with him? Did you know he stole a bunch of Nihilum gear/accounts that other nihilum dedicated time to?

I am guessing this is the reason.

I don't like what happened. I took no part and did not know about it until well after it happened. I let my voice be heard to many about it all but it was after the fact and too late unfortunately.

My only problem was the application of the punishment.

[SamwiseRed]

so if rape was legal, it would be okay with you?

[SamwiseRed]

my point is, stop being faggots. i would never delete someone's toon, even if it was legal and i had access to nizzarr. shit isnt that serious. i just find it pathetic that people are actually rule lawyering on character stripping/deletions. anyone with common sense and/or decency will know its wrong.

[heartbrand]

Reprisal rapes? Yaw. If someone raped my daughter I'd fuck the shit out of their daughter bro, that's how it works in the jungle man.

[SamwiseRed]

eye for an eye will always fail bro

[Clark]

my point is, stop being faggots. i would never delete someone's toon, even if it was legal and i had access to nizzarr. shit isnt that serious. i just find it pathetic that people are actually rule lawyering on character stripping/deletions. anyone with common sense and/or decency will know its wrong.

good post I agree

[Faerie Blossom]

my point is, stop being faggots. i would never delete someone's toon, even if it was legal and i had access to nizzarr. shit isnt that serious. i just find it pathetic that people are actually rule lawyering on character stripping/deletions. anyone with common sense and/or decency will know its wrong.

Most sensible post on this topic.

[heartbrand]

Yaw yaw so ez 2 be righteous when you don't even play on the box, try when ur char gets deleted and all it's items stripped by the opposition, said opposition posts on forums bragging and lol's in OOC 24/7 @ u, and then u get the chance 2 get them back.

[Faerie Blossom]

Yaw yaw so ez 2 be righteous when you don't even play on the box, try when ur char gets deleted and all it's items stripped by the opposition, said opposition posts on forums bragging and lol's in OOC 24/7 @ u, and then u get the chance 2 get them back.

I guess some people are just better than others. Personally, I feel that an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

[heartbrand]

Yaw we should all capitulate instead and allow ourselves to be raped, worked real well for Europe in WW2.

[STILLnotMORNIN]

Yaw yaw so ez 2 be righteous when you don't even play on the box, try when ur char gets deleted and all it's items stripped by the opposition, said opposition posts on forums bragging and lol's in OOC 24/7 @ u, and then u get the chance 2 get them back.

calm down bro.. its just a game..

[heartbrand]

shit just dumb same people who don't even play on this box shit up every thread that impacts people who actually do play here

p.s. wow back up time to run LFR's for the week bro get on

[mwllowyellow2]

Yaw yaw so ez 2 be righteous when you don't even play on the box, try when ur char gets deleted and all it's items stripped by the opposition, said opposition posts on forums bragging and lol's in OOC 24/7 @ u, and then u get the chance 2 get them back.

I for one never bragged about it so not sure how nizzar and friends find it okay to do this to someone else. Nizzar can act like he had nothing to do with it just like he did with beovvulfL; which gm's have confirmed on another post all the shit on blue went to his account. This isn't the first time nihilum officers or leader have stripped someone and it won't be the last imo.

[Faerie Blossom]

Yaw we should all capitulate instead and allow ourselves to be raped, worked real well for Europe in WW2.

Stop being ridiculous please.

If stripping/deleting characters became commonplace, it could potentially do a lot of harm to the server. The GMs shouldn't have to come up with rules for every tiny thing that in all honesty should be common sense. Or common decency, both terms work. Deleting someone else's stuff won't bring yours back, all it will do is make this a worse gaming experience for other people and make you look like the jerk you are.

Be the change you want to see in others.

[Malevz]

I didn't read any of this thread, I just want to be included.

[HippoNipple]

Yaw yaw so ez 2 be righteous when you don't even play on the box, try when ur char gets deleted and all it's items stripped by the opposition, said opposition posts on forums bragging and lol's in OOC 24/7 @ u, and then u get the chance 2 get them back.

It is bullshit that it happened to northwest but your argument is that of a child. Things are never completely even. You need to be the bigger man and not do the wrong thing. These GMs are people and it is easy to get influenced on your decision by how a person acts in the past. Maybe Northwest was a jerk. This server isn't a democracy and no server ever will be. In real life justice isn't always served.

If you want to enjoy this game and make sure you aren't banned, don't be a jerk. If you know someone gets away with something don't be a baby and try to get away with the same thing, then get mad if you don't. You have the option to cry to the gms and try to get people banned that do wrong, stick with telling on them.

Reading over every word the GMs say and trying to burn them on it is also obnoxious. If I was Rogean I would never respond to or communicate with that type of community... and guess what he doesn't often.

Yes, people get away with shit. Maybe it is because they know someone or have a good history with being positive to the community. No one says that's 100% fair but that is life. I don't see how a grown man can argue over and over again why someone else got away with something they shouldn't but they don't get to.

[heartbrand]

So many dumb people. WE WERE TOLD IT WAS OK AND NOT PUNISHABLE. IT WASNT CONSIDERED WRONG. THEN RANDOMLY WITHOUT WARNING OR NOTICE IT WAS BANNABLE. ITS NOT GETTING AWAY WITH SOMETHING IF YOU'RE TOLD IT'S LEGAL. /facepalm

[hagard]

The Mellow incident would never have happened without Sirken first giving his permission for account/char deletions based on the Northwest incident.

holy fuk you guys are so dum

[hagard]

my point is, stop being faggots. i would never delete someone's toon, even if it was legal and i had access to nizzarr. shit isnt that serious. i just find it pathetic that people are actually rule lawyering on character stripping/deletions. anyone with common sense and/or decency will know its wrong.

hey sam, thanks for summin it all up pal

[mwllowyellow2]

You don't know about the IP exemption insta logging bug, or the zoning into TT wall bug? Ugh OK I'm starting to get an idea of what's going on here.

Too much discretion not enough knowledge is a bad fucking recipe.

Thanks for the quote HB this box is hilarious.

I need to make a sig saying let players solve the problems.

Did you know Mellow was stealing all the loot he could from the VP raid before leaving and trying to get people to come with him? Did you know he stole a bunch of Nihilum gear/accounts that other nihilum dedicated time to? Do you know anything that's going on beyond the actual incident that you punish? I would hope you look at scenarios and people in a bigger picture before condeming someones actions as being childish or rude.

I can tell you in RL if someone raped my kid I'd be taking a baseball bat to his head till he's dead - would that be considered bad behavior? Yeah if you look at the last incident.

God few drinks in me this won't go good.

I stole gear from VP?? I raided for every single piece of gear that I received from nihilum and bought every single piece of loot that was for an alt if I didn't farm it for myself. Also wasn't me that was trying to get people to leave that would be tehruoh, which is pretty fucking hilarious since he's the one that got me to leave just ask batlle or gream. Then him and his girl come crawling back to nihilum lol. As for stealing a bunch of nihilum gear/accounts which one's would these be? Mantel mine bought for a manastone at lvl 35? Hatebringer? mine my emulator that I made, which I gave to batlle because he did help me lvl the alts. Jibekn? mine bought from someone for blue diamond neck plus 20k plat which was stolen and I asked for it to be banned because someone in nihilum took it most likely supreme (which is my fault for having same pass as mellow and the emu). Hellabad? mine made the emulator but batlle did help lvl in which I gave him his choose of a char which I didn't have to do. Tragic? mine traded him for a pl. So again fuck face what did I steal??

[mwllowyellow2]

So many dumb people. WE WERE TOLD IT WAS OK AND NOT PUNISHABLE. IT WASNT CONSIDERED WRONG. THEN RANDOMLY WITHOUT WARNING OR NOTICE IT WAS BANNABLE. ITS NOT GETTING AWAY WITH SOMETHING IF YOU'RE TOLD IT'S LEGAL. /facepalm

Who ever told you it was ok to strip/delete char?? Am I missing something just because nizzar and supreme say it's ok does not make it ok lol.

[heartbrand]

Who ever told you it was ok to strip/delete char?? Am I missing something just because nizzar and supreme say it's ok does not make it ok lol.

deleting chars he has info to isnt technically against the rules. players are responsible for their own acct info

as far as rmt, send me proof

[mwllowyellow2]

Just to clarify, deleting chars SHOULD be bannable, but when it's inconsistently applied with contradicting rulings from the GM's themselves with no actual posted rules it's dumb. The biggest impetus for the Mellowyellow situation was that everyone was bragging about the Northwest deletion, including mellow, and we were told SORRY BROS GUARD UR INFOS. Had that been handled according to how Mellow case was handled, there would have never been a Mellow case.

Give me a link or ss of me bragging about NW. I like NW and all don't get me wrong but sometimes he's over the top talking about raping peoples kids and other rl shit and then going after the gm's when his shit got deleted. IMO that's why the gm's didn't help him.

[mwllowyellow2]

What your not realizing is that Sirken didn't ban anyone that shit came from the top bro go hound Rogean like your doing Sirken. Sirken has done nothing but help this box and all you guys can do is bitch and moan about accounts that aren't even yours.

[hagard]

IT WASNT CONSIDERED WRONG.

an u callin me dum????

[Feniggles]

Yaw yaw so ez 2 be righteous when you don't even play on the box, try when ur char gets deleted and all it's items stripped by the opposition, said opposition posts on forums bragging and lol's in OOC 24/7 @ u, and then u get the chance 2 get them back.

sup?

[HippoNipple]

So many dumb people. WE WERE TOLD IT WAS OK AND NOT PUNISHABLE. IT WASNT CONSIDERED WRONG. THEN RANDOMLY WITHOUT WARNING OR NOTICE IT WAS BANNABLE. ITS NOT GETTING AWAY WITH SOMETHING IF YOU'RE TOLD IT'S LEGAL. /facepalm

No one said it was okay. You need to grow up kid. You also shouldn't need some GM on an emulator to tell you what's okay. You sound like a little kid. You don't need to ask for permission to be a scum bag every chance you get. Just play the game and stop trying to get away with shit.

[Stasis01]

I realise Sirken is only a guide or w/e nobody - but if he's gona come here and say it's the players fault this shit is running rampant I'm going to tell him what's really up.

Carry on nobodys like fairy princess nobody and hagwhothefuckisthis

[mwllowyellow2]

I have to say Heartbrand what would YHWH have to say about this situation?? Would he be happy with the dirty shit you do in game?

[Stasis01]

Gm says its not against rules, then bans - pretty simple. This is a game I found it funny, if it's allowed lets do it up - people say it's just a game then freak out over shit that happens in game like char deletions... you can't have it both ways. Either it's a game and shit doesn't matter, or it's a lot of time and something fun and police it fairly.

[mwllowyellow2]

I realise Sirken is only a guide or w/e nobody - but if he's gona come here and say it's the players fault this shit is running rampant I'm going to tell him what's really up.

Carry on nobodys like fairy princess nobody and hagwhothefuckisthis

Still waiting on the items gear and vp gear list I stole.

[heartbrand]

This thread reminded me why I hadn't posted on forums lately. Northwest deleted / stripped? Samwise and others praising the deed going on about how you should protect your account, not GM's responsibility to protect people, blah blah, Nihilum punished? Praise Sirken, praise the rules, don't be a scum bag, etc. etc. Forums dumb as fuck.

[Stasis01]

Heh not gona give out information passed on from confidence - you can spin this however you want, TBH you're insignificant and just a point about unbalanced rule policing.

We all know in Nihilum what went down that night it's ok bro keep up your forum rep.

[Yagebasto]

so if rape was legal, it would be okay with you?

id kill to be a viking back in the day..

[Stasis01]

Samwise the permanent lvl 50 druid nobody who can comment on how the servers run - Kinda sounds like how the GM's work.

[Yagebasto]

mellow isn't it a sin to steal items? For a christian you are pretty unfaithful to the lord and savior jesus christ. Maybe you should repent and ask Rushmore to save your soul

[mwllowyellow2]

Heh not gona give out information passed on from confidence - you can spin this however you want, TBH you're insignificant and just a point about unbalanced rule policing.

We all know in Nihilum what went down that night it's ok bro keep up your forum rep.

Keep up the forum rep lul your literally telling me I took shit then won't tell these fine people what I took. As far as being insignificant I'm not the one that gets hit in mass pvp and zones.

[mwllowyellow2]

mellow isn't it a sin to steal items? For a christian you are pretty unfaithful to the lord and savior jesus christ. Maybe you should repent and ask Rushmore to save your soul

Again please enlighten me on what I stole. As far as being a Christian, I don't remember telling anyone my beliefs in guild. Ajax maybe you should spend more time in game learning how to play a shaman instead of forum questing, and you wouldn't have to gate every time you see me in zone by yourself.

[Yagebasto]

these fine people

knot sheriff srs

[hagard]

I realise Sirken is only a guide or w/e nobody - but if he's gona come here and say it's the players fault this shit is running rampant I'm going to tell him what's really up.

Carry on nobodys like fairy princess nobody and hagwhothefuckisthis

I like how it is sirkens responsibility, U r so dum it makes me lol

[mwllowyellow2]

id kill to be a viking back in the day..

You'd be more like the people being raped in England sorry to break it to you no pussies are allowed to be vikings.

[mwllowyellow2]

knot sheriff srs

not sure if mad or just bad

[HippoNipple]

This thread reminded me why I hadn't posted on forums lately. Northwest deleted / stripped? Samwise and others praising the deed going on about how you should protect your account, not GM's responsibility to protect people, blah blah, Nihilum punished? Praise Sirken, praise the rules, don't be a scum bag, etc. etc. Forums dumb as fuck.

Nihilum did the same thing when Holocaust was banned. In this situation the tables are turned and someone else was unequally punished. In all instances the same rule applies. If you try to dance on the fine line of what is punishable you are going to get screwed sooner or later. Don't make your decisions based on what others got away with or by taking a sentence out of context a GM posted.

Azreal and Nihilum are always going to be biased and hate on each other.

There are also others posting here that have nothing against Nihilum. You don't always have to make it an attack on Nihilum. This thread is about people deleting characters and being scum bags. You are defending the act of stealing someones gear and deleting characters, it isn't going to be a popular point of view.

If I am going to agree with you on this matter it would only be that the ones who messed with Northwest should have been banned. It isn't something you can really go back on because it would be admitting weakness on the GMs part. If it was handled incorrectly it is a shame and that is when Northwest needs to lean on his guild members to help him out. It is the same case with Nihilum, maybe they should have been banned back when Holocaust was, but no one expects them to go back on that now and ban the entire Nihilum guild.

[mwllowyellow2]

Nihilum did the same thing when Holocaust was banned. In this situation the tables are turned and someone else was unequally punished. In all instances the same rule applies. If you try to dance on the fine line of what is punishable you are going to get screwed sooner or later. Don't make your decisions based on what others got away with or by taking a sentence out of context a GM posted.

Azreal and Nihilum are always going to be biased and hate on each other.

There are also others posting here that have nothing against Nihilum. You don't always have to make it an attack on Nihilum. This thread is about people deleting characters and being scum bags. You are defending the act of stealing someones gear and deleting characters, it isn't going to be a popular point of view.

If I am going to agree with you on this matter it would only be that the ones who messed with Northwest should have been banned. It isn't something you can really go back on because it would be admitting weakness on the GMs part. If it was handled incorrectly it is a shame and that is when Northwest needs to lean on his guild members to help him out. It is the same case with Nihilum, maybe they should have been banned back when Holocaust was, but no one expects them to go back on that now and ban the entire Nihilum guild.

The person did get banned for the NW incident and he did get all gear/char back.

[Yagebasto]

not sure if mad or just bad

shhhhh only the dead can know peace from this rustling.

its time to pray and repent young sinner

[magician]

Reading Mellowyellows posts give me a headache. :(

[fiegi 6.5]

This thread reminded me why I hadn't posted on forums lately. Northwest deleted / stripped? Samwise and others praising the deed going on about how you should protect your account, not GM's responsibility to protect people, blah blah, Nihilum punished? Praise Sirken, praise the rules, don't be a scum bag, etc. etc. Forums dumb as fuck.

chortled

this man's words per post combined with post count is fucking impressive.

[magician]

Chuck lets not forget about how much time you spend on the internet too, pal. We're all disgruntled nerds here.

[Sirken]

I realise Sirken is only a guide or w/e nobody - but if he's gona come here and say it's the players fault this shit is running rampant I'm going to tell him what's really up. Carry on nobodys like fairy princess nobody and hagwhothefuckisthis
im literally dying of anticipation on the edge of my seat waiting for you to tell me what's really up

[mwllowyellow2]

im literally dying of anticipation on the edge of my seat waiting for you to tell me what's really up

Did you know I stole everything from nihilum.

[Faerie Blossom]

This thread is a good example of why the population is so low.

[mwllowyellow2]

This thread is a good example of why the population is so low.

Stop talking arzak

[fiegi 6.5]

Chuck lets not forget about how much time you spend on the internet too, pal. We're all disgruntled nerds here.

:o:o:o:o

[Barladore]

This thread is a good example of why the population is so low.

How fucking soft would you have to be to let a playerbase decide whether or not you want to play a video game? I'm so sick and tired of people crying that it's the playerbases fault for new players not wanting to play here. You think people who love eq pvp are going to come here and quit because someone was immature on the forums or because they got PKed by a twink as they were leveling their first char? For every moron on this server there is 3 people that are helpful and mature. No amount of griefing would ever make me quit. No amount of ooc spam would ever make me leave this server.

Poeple come here to PVP, then realize its going to take them 5 months to be able to pvp on their shadowknight.

What happened when XP was boosted the first time? Major player influx. What happened when they removed it? People started leaving. It's leveled off somewhat because finally, guilds have almost caught up to nihilum in levels. There is pvp and people are logging in to enjoy it. Want more people? Cut new players a break and lower the time it takes for them to get involved.

[Faerie Blossom]

How fucking soft would you have to be to let a playerbase decide whether or not you want to play a video game?

A good MMO (like EQ) is all about the playerbase. The friends you make, the enemies you make, and the ways you can interact with them and help to shape the community. That's what I like about EverQuest, though I accept that others feel differently. Many players here treat the game (for lack of a better example) like a FPS deathmatch game, and if the community sucks they don't care because at least they're getting killshots. But some people do agree with me, and quite a few of them have expressed their opinions:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=103256

When you see a thread wherein posters reminisce about "the old days" of VZTZ, and then watch as it devolves into whiny complaints of "our douchbaggery was technically legal!" and mudslinging contests, it's really no surprise to me that server population is suffering. Leveling is even slower on blue, and their population is just fine. We're playing the same game as them, but with an added element of pvp. Really we should have a higher population :/

[Sirken]

When you see a thread wherein posters reminisce about "the old days" of VZTZ, and then watch as it devolves into whiny complaints of "our douchbaggery was technically legal!" and mudslinging contests, it's really no surprise to me that server population is suffering. Leveling is even slower on blue, and their population is just fine. We're playing the same game as them, but with an added element of pvp. Really we should have a higher population :/

i declare you Queen of Common Sense, Protector of the Server, Warden of the Thread, and the Lady Lord over the Delivery of Truth.

[Faerie Blossom]

i declare you Queen of Common Sense, Protector of the Server, Warden of the Thread, and the Lady Lord over the Delivery of Truth.

<33

[SamwiseRed]

This thread reminded me why I hadn't posted on forums lately. Northwest deleted / stripped? Samwise and others praising the deed going on about how you should protect your account, not GM's responsibility to protect people, blah blah, Nihilum punished? Praise Sirken, praise the rules, don't be a scum bag, etc. etc. Forums dumb as fuck.

imo NW should have been banned anyway. anyone who talks about oral sex with a child in ooc deserves the hammer. i wasnt so much praising him getting stripped deleted as much as I was praising he was gone. not to mention all the other RL threats and shit that came out of his mouth.

[hagard]

imo NW should have been banned anyway. anyone who talks about oral sex with a child in ooc deserves the hammer. i wasnt so much praising him getting stripped deleted as much as I was praising he was gone. not to mention all the other RL threats and shit that came out of his mouth.

dude was an all around douche so when he got screwed we all smiled hard as hell :D:D

[fiegi 6.5]

imo NW should have been banned anyway. anyone who talks about oral sex with a child in ooc deserves the hammer. i wasnt so much praising him getting stripped deleted as much as I was praising he was gone. not to mention all the other RL threats and shit that came out of his mouth.

that sounds bad tbh

but that is grounds for a ban hammer in my world

[Barladore]

Many players here treat the game (for lack of a better example) like a FPS deathmatch game, and if the community sucks they don't care because at least they're getting killshots.

No it's treated as eq pvp, something that is nothing like an FPS. It's not waves of meaningless battle ground pvp with no reward. Here pvp is used to decide who gets to fight raid mobs, it is used to determine who is the best at what class, it is to determine who is the better guild. The bitching and gloating you see after - is simply the way people get the better of their opponents. You dont get this, because you're on the outside looking in and so is everyone from the blue server you took that poll from. You arent involved in the high end pvp over the planes or dragons, which has only really started happening consistently in the last few weeks. You're doing the same thing the p1999 staff does, they look at the red populaton in comparison to the blue one - many players on red never have nor ever will have a character on blue because eq pve alone, absolutely does not interest them. Those are the type of players this server needs to attract - not blue conver,s because ultimately blue converts wont last.

The people that play on the blue server are no more mature than the people on red, the subject of the whining is just different - instead they whine about epic mob rights and pve poopsocking. The only reason you find people more inclined to help others on blue is because on red, there is always that chance they'll end up your enemy (or that they already are in alt form). Your efforts on red are better served aiding your own guild. This is why you see the bitching, because guild members stick up for one another on red, id argue that the community on red is even tighter and stronger than that on blue.

As far as your arguement regarding xp, you've completely missed my point. On blue the objective is to enjoy pve. On red people come here to pvp at the max level. NO ONE is here to "enjoy the leveling ride" from 1-55.

[Reddi]

I can tell you in RL if someone raped my kid I'd be taking a baseball bat to his head till he's dead - would that be considered bad behavior? Yeah if you look at the last incident.

especially if you have been telling the police and people in charge for weeks straight with 0 action taken, right?

[Tomato King3]

Nice to see you are 58 on your wiz knife good job, you were a cool guy when we chilled in unrest at level 20 P

I would also like to add i just read 10 pages of this thread and i think im embarassed that i played on this server with such idiots.

The general intellegence level of this server is in the pits of the world at this point, some of you are so dumb you dont even know right from wrong.

I sit and wonder if some of you are even serious in the shit you post and people rap about me being a faggot?

I would never strip or delete anyone even someone i didnt like, i get the general idea that most of you have nothing else in your lives other then this server and forum which in itself is sad, however instead of doing something about it you just cry here.

What the fuck?

Some of you do make big sense like sam and faerie, but some of you fucking scare me.

[Alecta]

I'm curious if the P99 player base is any 'nicer' than the old VZTZ one.

And I guess that answered that.

[Faerie Blossom]

I've pvped for raid rights, trust me. And I know Sirken has too, with his VZ background.

Those are the type of players this server needs to attract - not blue conver,s because ultimately blue converts wont last.

Who are you to say which type of player the server needs to attract? Variety is the spice of life, if you ask me.

The people that play on the blue server are no more mature than the people on red, the subject of the whining is just different - instead they whine about epic mob rights and pve poopsocking. The only reason you find people more inclined to help others on blue is because on red, there is always that chance they'll end up your enemy (or that they already are in alt form). Your efforts on red are better served aiding your own guild. This is why you see the bitching, because guild members stick up for one another on red, id argue that the community on red is even tighter and stronger than that on blue.

Red is actually a pretty friendly group of people, and I've received more help there than I did leveling on blue. It's that vocal and abrasive minority, and the community's acceptance of them, that suck pretty hard.

As far as your arguement regarding xp, you've completely missed my point. On blue the objective is to enjoy pve. On red people come here to pvp at the max level. NO ONE is here to "enjoy the leveling ride" from 1-55.

Please understand that you don't speak for everyone. It seems the majority of current players do agree with you, and that makes me a little sad because I miss the old days on live. EQ is EQ, and you can't minimize one aspect of it (leveling, raiding, pvp) without taking away some of its magic. I think the server could use more bluebies, we're very unbalanced as things are.

The leveling ride from 1-55 wasn't about being fun in and of itself, imo; it was about making lots of e-friends and spending time really getting to know each other. That's harder to do here with such a low population, and I don't disagree with a group xp bonus to encourage this interaction, but the game does feel somewhat neutered with the bonus and antisocial soloing behavior (that I'm guilty of too). We put up with the xp rates on live, why are we so against playing the game here?

I'd like to know when exactly pve became a four letter word, because I remember having some great times bullshitting in xp groups and killing dragons.

[Stasis01]

What's your in-game name Faerie, just so I know to feed you a shit sandwich when I can.

[Stasis01]

I've pvped for raid rights, trust me. And I know Sirken has too, with his VZ background.



Who are you to say which type of player the server needs to attract? Variety is the spice of life, if you ask me.



Red is actually a pretty friendly group of people, and I've received more help there than I did leveling on blue. It's that vocal and abrasive minority, and the community's acceptance of them, that suck pretty hard.



Please understand that you don't speak for everyone. It seems the majority of current players do agree with you, and that makes me a little sad because I miss the old days on live. EQ is EQ, and you can't minimize one aspect of it (leveling, raiding, pvp) without taking away some of its magic. I think the server could use more bluebies, we're very unbalanced as things are.

The leveling ride from 1-55 wasn't about being fun in and of itself, imo; it was about making lots of e-friends and spending time really getting to know each other. That's harder to do here with such a low population, and I don't disagree with a group xp bonus to encourage this interaction, but the game does feel somewhat neutered with the bonus and antisocial soloing behavior (that I'm guilty of too). We put up with the xp rates on live, why are we so against playing the game here?

I'd like to know when exactly pve became a four letter word, because I remember having some great times bullshitting in xp groups and killing dragons.

It's like you showed up today and just run off any brain fart fucking idea that comes to you - holy shit you have no idea what this place actually is do you.

[Swish]

Faerie - same as the GM name on the new Sleeper server? Same person?

[Kimm Barely]

swish that gif rules pal

[Swish]

swish that gif rules pal

Yeah one of my favourites for sure ;)

...which horse won?

[Faerie Blossom]

What's your in-game name Faerie, just so I know to feed you a shit sandwich when I can.

Faerie.

EDIT:

Faerie - same as the GM name on the new Sleeper server? Same person?

No. I've never played on the Sleeper server, and I had no idea the GM there had chosen the same name until recently.

[Shrubwise]

It's like you showed up today and just run off any brain fart fucking idea that comes to you - holy shit you have no idea what this place actually is do you.

http://www.got-heem.com/images/watchout.jpg

[Nirgon]

We should have a higher population but we had no guard assist (for people that needed it) and perma root mage pets and root spam. Bet those 500 other people loved their corpse runs and sense of classic EQ PvP amirite.

[Prince]

thread went downhill fast

#YOLO

[Shrubwise]

We should have a higher population but we had no guard assist (for people that needed it) and perma root mage pets and root spam. Bet those 500 other people loved their corpse runs and sense of classic EQ PvP amirite.

You're right. Only the true ballaz can hang.

Server thrive is alive, ya'll.

[Crenshinabon]

People make fungi twinks because leveling a melee/hybrid without one will cost them 25+ days of their life. The reason there isnt another 100-200 players on the server is because there is still a pvp death exp loss, no yellow text and no exp group bonus.
^^

[Crenshinabon]

Before you give your account info out to others, ask yourself a question or two ("do the GMs think I'm an asshole and don't deserve their help if i fuck myself over by giving out my info to another douchebagger 'friend' of mine?") and determine your course of action.

This had me lol

[Tradesonred]

No it's treated as eq pvp, something that is nothing like an FPS. It's not waves of meaningless battle ground pvp with no reward. Here pvp is used to decide who gets to fight raid mobs, it is used to determine who is the best at what class, it is to determine who is the better guild. The bitching and gloating you see after - is simply the way people get the better of their opponents. You dont get this, because you're on the outside looking in and so is everyone from the blue server you took that poll from. You arent involved in the high end pvp over the planes or dragons, which has only really started happening consistently in the last few weeks. You're doing the same thing the p1999 staff does, they look at the red populaton in comparison to the blue one - many players on red never have nor ever will have a character on blue because eq pve alone, absolutely does not interest them. Those are the type of players this server needs to attract - not blue conver,s because ultimately blue converts wont last.

The people that play on the blue server are no more mature than the people on red, the subject of the whining is just different - instead they whine about epic mob rights and pve poopsocking. The only reason you find people more inclined to help others on blue is because on red, there is always that chance they'll end up your enemy (or that they already are in alt form). Your efforts on red are better served aiding your own guild. This is why you see the bitching, because guild members stick up for one another on red, id argue that the community on red is even tighter and stronger than that on blue.

As far as your arguement regarding xp, you've completely missed my point. On blue the objective is to enjoy pve. On red people come here to pvp at the max level. NO ONE is here to "enjoy the leveling ride" from 1-55.

Well to me its all mixed together, im am enjoying the leveling ride BECAUSE it is heavily sprinkled with large doses of pvp sessions like it was on Rallos, which doesnt happen here because of xp loss in pvp. So i gave up playing my level 57 shaman, let alone start a new class to "enjoy the leveling ride" again which i wont enjoy because devs dont get (well Nilbog seems to get it) fun pvp is the essence of EQ pvp. Not some fucking duels organized by Sirken (no offense, i like your events) thats not EQ pvp. Daily, regular, back and forth tugs of war for camp control, Hot(pvp)zones like crushbone and Queynos Hills/Blackburrow where everyone is duking it out for hours, thats EQ pvp.

[Sirken]

Not some fucking duels organized by Sirken (no offense, i like your events) thats not EQ pvp. Daily, regular, back and forth tugs of war for camp control, Hot(pvp)zones like crushbone and Queynos Hills/Blackburrow where everyone is duking it out for hours, thats EQ pvp.

i agree, no offense taken ;)

[Reddi]

I always /D people because I yearn for YT

[Nirgon]

Retti, who stripped Beo

[Reddi]

Angome aka Nizzar, thanks or logs Ambrotos.

[juicedsixfo]

Need hot zones, swc

[Nixus]

Sirken, I own vallonzek.com if you wanna put it to good use :)