NPC's holding items

[Rhambuk]

I know that you can't give npc's items anymore. I remember a friend from live that played on red, give a no drop item to a monster let a lvl 1 kill it loot.

Anyway i was just wondering if you can still give money to monsters and if they hold on to it.

a decaying skeleton with 100k might make some noobs day.

[falkun]

I know that you can't give npc's items anymore. I remember a friend from live that played on red, give a no drop item to a monster let a lvl 1 kill it loot.

Anyway i was just wondering if you can still give money to monsters and if they hold on to it.

a decaying skeleton with 100k might make some noobs day.

Ya, that noob would never move again.

[Rhambuk]

Ya, that noob would never move again.

hed be happy!

[Swish]

Still see guards holding maces etc, its not fully gone is it?

[Bamzal Sherbet]

npcs will take anything you give them, and will attempt to equip it.

As per classic, when you kill the npc, they should drop everything that you gave them.
(Except for NO DROP items. NPC will NOT drop a NO DROP item that you gave him.)

On Project 1999, NPC doesn't even give back the droppable items when they die :(

[Swish]

I'd understand that for coin but not for weapons/armor...has anyone tried giving the Priest of Discord a set of bronze armor? Does it work here? :p

Always funny on Live, he'd be wearing something new every week

[Rhambuk]

http://web.archive.org/web/20010708124018/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008248.html

lol this would be great...

[Tecmos Deception]

You can totally do that shit with weapons. People (like Save, that dirty bastard!) are always dictating cliff golems and giving them stun whips and root weapons and see invis buffs and stuff.

All you KoS-with-VS people are just lucky that giving him a see-invis item doesn't actually make him permanently see invis!


I don't think you can give weapons to something unless it is charmed though? A number of people on the server swear that NPCs equip and benefit from other items as well, though they don't drop them later when they are killed. I'm pretty skeptical though. I find it unlikely that I could go charm an orc pawn and give him a 5/55 ring and see his hit point % drop because he suddenly has 2-3x as many hp as he normally would.

The weapons stuff is also selectively disabled I think. You can give a 30/40 sk/pal wep to a low-level summoned pet and it will hit super hard, but I've tried to give weighted axes to charmed noobie mobs and they don't wield it or do increased damage or anything.

[Valium]

It appears they still have separate inventories.

Years ago, I recall non-pet NPCs returning items handed to them - possibly in an attempt to prevent moving no drops/money, etc. This caused an unintentional widespread exploit and was then changed. After the fix, NPC's would eat the items and they still wouldn't appear on the corpse - charmed or not. I believe this was due to them putting the items in their second, inaccessible inventory.

It may be worth mentioning here and possibly a reason inventories are separated, at least on blue. Seems like an intentional change.

[Clark]

You can totally do that shit with weapons. People (like Save, that dirty bastard!) are always dictating cliff golems and giving them stun whips and root weapons and see invis buffs and stuff.

All you KoS-with-VS people are just lucky that giving him a see-invis item doesn't actually make him permanently see invis!


I don't think you can give weapons to something unless it is charmed though? A number of people on the server swear that NPCs equip and benefit from other items as well, though they don't drop them later when they are killed. I'm pretty skeptical though. I find it unlikely that I could go charm an orc pawn and give him a 5/55 ring and see his hit point % drop because he suddenly has 2-3x as many hp as he normally would.

The weapons stuff is also selectively disabled I think. You can give a 30/40 sk/pal wep to a low-level summoned pet and it will hit super hard, but I've tried to give weighted axes to charmed noobie mobs and they don't wield it or do increased damage or anything.

You can give noncharmed mobs weapons. Did it all the time on red99 when I played there. Just has to be calmed or from around the corner.

[Ravager]

A while back when I was camping cloak in MM, I was giving the living mobs there bronze just with sneak and they equipped it. They did not drop it though when I killed them.

[Briscoe]

http://web.archive.org/web/20010708124018/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008248.html

lol this would be great...

Also from that thread:

Mobs that have hands will always equip the last weapon given to them... pushing whatever they were holding into their loot table.

Try this with an orc pawn, if you want to see for yourself.

Was this actually true?

[Rhambuk]

Also from that thread:



Was this actually true?

even on live i dont remember being able to re equip mobs, if they had it equipped they would just put what you gave them in offhand if they could dw or loottable if they couldnt but that was a long time ago.

The only time I really remember benefiting from giving mobs weapons were insane hard raid mobs that quad, like the big guy during the bertox event in CoD wed give him a fine steel 2hand staff killed his ability to quad because now he has no DW.

[Raavak]

On Project 1999, NPC doesn't even give back the droppable items when they die :(That's not classic. Where's Nirgon and Elethia?

[Hawala]

Also from that thread:



Was this actually true?

Yes yes yes yes yes. Although I don't remember if or when it was changed on live. I remember right when the game came out, like within a few months, someone figured out that you could charm a mob, give it a Ykesha and then kill it to get it back.

I remember very well, because there was a necromancer in my guild who gave a Ykesha to his pet, and didn't realize that you had to be able to loot the corpse to get your item back. Basically he lost about 15000 plat.

[falkun]

That's not classic.
And its going to stay that way:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=23264

[Rhambuk]

Yes yes yes yes yes. Although I don't remember if or when it was changed on live. I remember right when the game came out, like within a few months, someone figured out that you could charm a mob, give it a Ykesha and then kill it to get it back.


Back when this was doable with no drop items I had a friend who played on RZ red, always trying to get me to go over there but No Thanks, he would tell me that his higher level friends would charm lvl 1 mobs give them a bunch of no drop stuff then let him kill it for the loot, lvl 1 dwarf paladin looted a soulfire off of a bat lol

[Ele]

That's not classic. Where's Nirgon and Elethia?

Reported numerous times. :P

I recall the underlying issue is no drop trading bugs that need to get worked out before this can be effected.

[nilbog]

And its going to stay that way:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=23264

until fixed, yeah.

[Lagaidh]

One of my favorite gifts to NPCs in live was to give scarab armor to the Priest of Discord.

I loved seeing that dufus in a green plate hat and breastplate.