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Ephi
05-01-2013, 07:29 AM
Many, many accounts have been banned linked to Platlord's online RMT sales in the past few weeks. Many more continue to be banned.

These accounts have rich trade histories identifying buyers via standard character-to-character trade and /split. We have begun banning people who have purchased items or currency from Platlord.

We know who you are. We know who he is. You will be caught. You will be banned.

Do not sell to or buy from Platlord. RMT is against the server rules. It ends now.

SamwiseRed
05-01-2013, 07:35 AM
smilin hard as hell. name and shame would be icing on the cake but i guess we cant have it all :)

Brocode
05-01-2013, 07:58 AM
but whos platlord?

nm google wins

falkun
05-01-2013, 08:22 AM
Ephi, the Seventh Hammer.

raff01
05-01-2013, 08:35 AM
Yessssss !!!

Oh by the way, its funny the suddent spree of people selling their accounts on the EC forum section LOL

Alarti0001
05-01-2013, 08:55 AM
Many, many accounts have been banned linked to Platlord's online RMT sales in the past few weeks. Many more continue to be banned.

These accounts have rich trade histories identifying buyers via standard character-to-character trade and /split. We have begun banning people who have purchased items or currency from Platlord.

We know who you are. We know who he is. You will be caught. You will be banned.

Do not sell to or buy from Platlord. RMT is against the server rules. It ends now.

You have my axe

Itap
05-01-2013, 09:06 AM
Smilin hard, cleanest whistle this side of freeport

Bohab
05-01-2013, 09:11 AM
Police auction on the rare, rare items someday? maybe? hopefully? =)

Skope
05-01-2013, 09:18 AM
Police auction on the rare, rare items someday? maybe? hopefully? =)

Or just hand them out in EC and make it a server wide event.

falkun
05-01-2013, 09:28 AM
Or just hand them out in EC and make it a server wide event.

IDK, police auction might be a nice idea to rid the server of some of the vast amount of legitimate plat.

sulpher01
05-01-2013, 10:18 AM
haha awesome.. his site now says 'looking to buy p99 plat' rather than listing any for sale

falkun
05-01-2013, 10:27 AM
haha awesome.. his site now says 'looking to buy p99 plat' rather than listing any for sale

A few days ago was even better: Absolutely zero mention of P99 (and I think R99 too), buying or selling.

Bamzal Sherbet
05-01-2013, 11:21 AM
first of the month. not looking good for him

Sickle
05-01-2013, 11:21 AM
JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED!

SamwiseRed
05-01-2013, 11:49 AM
no more iron rations for platlord.

Anesthia
05-01-2013, 01:25 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_gu1wlAwdunU/TGIb7VMA-tI/AAAAAAAAA9k/HDCHIsOAn0k/s400/free-MrBurnsExcellent.gif

bizzum
05-01-2013, 03:17 PM
http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/imagecache/Node_Page/images/MaCID.gif

Lagaidh
05-01-2013, 03:49 PM
Wow Bizzum... I hadn't seen that variation yet. I think I pooped in my pants a little.

bionicbadger
05-01-2013, 05:36 PM
please ban IP address associated with those accounts too

Sweetbaby Jesus
05-01-2013, 06:19 PM
He uses hotspot shield and probably other forms of masking IP. Banning IP wouldn't accomplish much.

KotBK
05-01-2013, 06:22 PM
I enjoy the content of the original post

Shrubwise
05-01-2013, 08:05 PM
pras

Millburn
05-01-2013, 08:09 PM
Ephi has me all hot and bothered with all this JUSTICE.

http://i.imgur.com/fTCM5.gif

citizen1080
05-01-2013, 09:20 PM
/cheer

Pringles
05-01-2013, 09:33 PM
They gonna find you!

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u53/jnxxx_83/RANDOM/antoine-dodson-1_o_GIFSoupcom.gif

Tradermule
05-01-2013, 09:55 PM
please ban IP address associated with those accounts too

They can just reset their modem and get a new one. /facepalm

quido
05-01-2013, 09:58 PM
Harrison demands transparency!

Shrubwise
05-01-2013, 09:58 PM
Post names or it didn't happen.

Apparently you don't remember when you posted this on page one.

Zing.

Nuggie
05-02-2013, 02:14 AM
I like this.

Jenithia
05-02-2013, 08:05 AM
Was so happy to see this. I wish we would know who though. It was pretty dead in EC earlier. I didn't see a few of the usual casino people or a certain bard selling certain things.

gotrocks
05-02-2013, 08:51 AM
You have my axe

and my bow!

gotrocks
05-02-2013, 08:54 AM
and oh my god jenithia's sig is naughty. ^^^

Gajkk
05-02-2013, 10:56 AM
That's the style, Project 1999. :D

Suirad
05-02-2013, 01:53 PM
Great work!
Keep fighting the good fight!

Lanzellot
05-02-2013, 03:00 PM
/applaud ephi great work

Stinkum
05-02-2013, 04:44 PM
mercy to platlord's mom to let him be late on his basement rent this month

pras ephi

Fame
05-02-2013, 08:19 PM
Will stop making sarcastic remarks about server integrity from here on out.

5/1/13 - NEVER FORGET

EchoedTruth
05-02-2013, 09:11 PM
lol @ all the "tough on drugs" people here...


"Hell yea I fully endorse this I don't RMT"

"Oh yea this is awesome hell yea"

Reminds me of the politicians who rail against gays and such...


and then get caught in a bathroom with George Michaels >.>

SamwiseRed
05-03-2013, 12:44 AM
^banned hahaha

Anesthia
05-03-2013, 01:01 AM
Will stop making sarcastic remarks about server integrity from here on out.

We now have reason to have (George Michaels) faith.

Clark
05-03-2013, 04:13 AM
http://s17.postimg.org/ix3opira7/platlordlol.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
screen capture software (http://postimage.org/app.php)

Ella`Ella
05-03-2013, 04:36 AM
Yea, and now the heat shits all over the bulls...

Smedy
05-03-2013, 07:00 AM
Ephi turns out to be quiet the white knight, pras to ye sir

heartbrand
05-03-2013, 10:05 AM
Yea, and now the heat shits all over the bulls...

Ya cuz Rose has vagitosis

Bodeanicus
05-03-2013, 12:18 PM
Don't ban them. Delete their fucking characters, period.

Stinkum
05-03-2013, 02:14 PM
Don't ban them. Delete their fucking characters, period.

Permanently not having access to their characters is the result of either option.. What's your point?

sulpher01
05-03-2013, 02:34 PM
Don't ban them. Delete their fucking characters, period.

Think first, post second.

Clark
05-03-2013, 05:32 PM
Think first, post second.

http://s24.postimg.org/qd8qdfeol/bosh_dinosaur_museum.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
free screen capture software (http://postimage.org/app.php)

quido
05-03-2013, 06:35 PM
I believe people were caught, Harrison. You're fucking retarded.

Shrubwise
05-03-2013, 06:38 PM
I believe people were caught, Harrison. You're fucking retarded.

Stibe
05-03-2013, 09:32 PM
Harrison needs to SERIOUSLY re-examine his life if this is what he is left to doing in his spare time.

Anesthia
05-04-2013, 01:14 AM
I think he's just trolling for name & shames.

Razdeline
05-04-2013, 05:05 AM
Harrison is right tho. Pics or it didn't happen. Not sure I believe this. Proof isn't too much to ask for.

Shrubwise
05-04-2013, 10:21 AM
Harrison is right tho. Pics or it didn't happen. Not sure I believe this. Proof isn't too much to ask for.

http://www.got-heem.com/images/Eyeroll.gif

Bodeanicus
05-04-2013, 01:16 PM
Permanently not having access to their characters is the result of either option.. What's your point?

Then why not delete them? What's YOUR fucking point?

Ravager
05-05-2013, 08:39 AM
Very cool indeed. It would be interesting to know how much plat was removed from the economy.

emp82
05-05-2013, 06:49 PM
Then why not delete them? What's YOUR fucking point?

Because it locks the name as unusable. You don't see that person online anymore and you know there is a good chance you knew a cheater.

Why do double the work to leave the account active but just delete all the characters?
/ban user1

or:
/delete character1
/delete character2
/delete character3

It's easier

Clark
05-06-2013, 12:56 AM
http://s12.postimg.org/i9sow2qjh/angerlol.png

Spike Spiegel
05-06-2013, 02:05 AM
This is good news

quido
05-06-2013, 06:26 AM
It would be harmless enough to release a few statistics I'm sure, right!? Hook us up with some stats - inquiring minds want to know =)

falkun
05-06-2013, 07:18 AM
Because it locks the name as unusable. You don't see that person online anymore and you know there is a good chance you knew a cheater.
Or better yet, delete the character and ban the account. That way even if the account gets unbanned a year+ later, the character/gear/plat is still gone. And, I can easily check to see if the account was banned, "Haven't seen soandso online lately, wonder what's up...Hey, P99 is letting me make a character named soandso, guess I won't be seeing them again."

Ephi
05-06-2013, 11:28 AM
It would be harmless enough to release a few statistics I'm sure, right!? Hook us up with some stats - inquiring minds want to know =)

To be honest, I'm still trying to get a handle on

A) Just how much I confiscated.

B) Where it came from.

The bottom line: it was a lot... considerably more than I expected to find, which has me a little concerned about a potential dupe/exploit mechanism.

I may release some numbers in the future, just trying to get it all figured out still.

Ephi
05-06-2013, 11:33 AM
Or better yet, delete the character and ban the account. That way even if the account gets unbanned a year+ later, the character/gear/plat is still gone. And, I can easily check to see if the account was banned, "Haven't seen soandso online lately, wonder what's up...Hey, P99 is letting me make a character named soandso, guess I won't be seeing them again."

On the surface this seems like a good idea, but I'm personally not in favor of it. Partially because if I was wrong about some of the bans it's incredibly painful for me to go back and undelete/unban.

I have an ongoing concern about names running out on this server. But will have to approach that from a different angle.

falkun
05-06-2013, 12:02 PM
On the surface this seems like a good idea, but I'm personally not in favor of it. Partially because if I was wrong about some of the bans it's incredibly painful for me to go back and undelete/unban.

I have an ongoing concern about names running out on this server. But will have to approach that from a different angle.

I can see your argument about "unjust/innaccurate" deletions and don't really have a counterargument. My comment was mostly directed at the history this server has of "permanent" bans. I'm happy as long as the character/equipment/plat is removed from the economy, however that happens. Turnover is good for the server's economy, but having people buying multiple accounts of geared 60's just further cements the status-quo.

Ikari
05-06-2013, 12:25 PM
I am a fan.

uygi
05-06-2013, 04:14 PM
Permanently not having access to their characters is the result of either option.. What's your point?

Deleting them frees up the character names. Whether that's good or bad, you decide.

Opening the names both gives the player a chance to start over as same character (from scratch, legit), if that's their wish, or frees up names for others to eventually take. Given that Ephi voices concern over an eventual name shortage... hmm...

I can see how a player starting on P99 might choose to buy a character (RMT) first before they really know better. They might feel like it's no big deal at the time. Deleting the character would allow that player to just come back and play legit. I think the more innocent RMT buyers (such a thing?) might choose to start over.

Clark
05-06-2013, 11:02 PM
To be honest, I'm still trying to get a handle on

A) Just how much I confiscated.

B) Where it came from.

The bottom line: it was a lot... considerably more than I expected to find, which has me a little concerned about a potential dupe/exploit mechanism.

I may release some numbers in the future, just trying to get it all figured out still.

+1

am interested

Frudrura
05-07-2013, 05:02 AM
Imo, I am very very very glad that this has happened and I hope anyone involved in any of this business never comes back ever ever unless they are seriously reformed lol but...

I stopped playing because prices kept going up and up and up and up and it seemed like plat was everywhere and platlord must have been making serious $$$$ from everyone coughing up $ for plat. I will probably start playing off and on again in the hopes that those participating in this kind of stuff are gone, at least temporarily. Indeed, foolish for it will continue right, in some form...

Razdeline
05-08-2013, 08:10 PM
What makes you think prices will go down??? lol

Reapin
05-08-2013, 10:34 PM
Looks like those old Jesters and Prophecy crooks found their way back!

Mabbu
05-09-2013, 11:04 PM
I didn't see any official mention in this thread on how or if we are able to contest this.

I have however never paid real money for anything on P99 and I seem t have been banned.

I haven't even really played in a while competatively mostly just sitting in the EC tunnel from time to time.

I recently did trade an account which can be found documented here:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=105000

I collected 130k platinum from this trade which I conservatively spent about 20k of on random INT caster items for a few twink.


Were any others wrongly flagged by this recent ban wave?


Not sure what I'm suppose to do about this. Or if I have any way to submit an appeal.



Thanks,

Eric

KotBK
05-09-2013, 11:26 PM
I didn't see any official mention in this thread on how or if we are able to contest this.

I have however never paid real money for anything on P99 and I seem t have been banned.

I haven't even really played in a while competatively mostly just sitting in the EC tunnel from time to time.

I recently did trade an account which can be found documented here:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=105000

I collected 130k platinum from this trade which I conservatively spent about 20k of on random INT caster items for a few twink.


Were any others wrongly flagged by this recent ban wave?


Not sure what I'm suppose to do about this. Or if I have any way to submit an appeal.



Thanks,

Eric

You can submit your claim within the petition/exploit forum section and i don't know about this recent ban wave, but the one prior had false positives and hit some people that shouldn't have been banned. If you give your Login name and any evidence that proves you are innocent include that within the petition. The only ones who can see that thread will be the staff who is directly involved with enforcing or retracting said bans. They are very busy in that particular forum, in game, and IRL so it may take some time to hear back or get a solution worked out. Patience and maturity will help your cause though. Hope this helps!

Mabbu
05-10-2013, 05:24 AM
I haven't even really played or logged in much since I sold my enchanter account. So I'm not sure which wave I got banned in. I just happened to be logging in to talk to a friend tonight and noticed the ban. Thanks for the info I'll post something in the petition section later today from work probably.

Pringles
05-10-2013, 10:54 AM
No clue if it helps (especially here) but I was in talks with mabbu on said account, and he turned down my offer, he stated in PM he sold it for 130k already.

Mabbu
05-10-2013, 08:42 PM
No clue if it helps (especially here) but I was in talks with mabbu on said account, and he turned down my offer, he stated in PM he sold it for 130k already.

I appreciate you taking the time to backup my story. Thank you sir.

I don't play here a lot though so I'm not going to be too bothered if I'm out of luck. I'll still logon casually.

GeinHealy
05-14-2013, 01:12 PM
Even before I installed Titanium EQ and stepped into the world of Project 1999 I knew, from the forums, No RMT. (Just like No Two-Boxing.) But I quickly learned that there's no reason to RMT anyway. The Project 1999 community is superior to the original EQ in that the majority of folk are very very kind and will help a newbie any way they can.

From my very first character, I've received lots of great newbie items and lots of plats whenever I'm in my newbie zone leveling. Once, I almost fell out of my chair laughing when, out of the blue, a dwarf inspects me and says: "Mother of God! A Real Newbie!!!" He then handed me 1,000 plats and ran off.

So I'm wondering if one point of your PSA is that I need to be careful because someone might give me plats or some item that came from someone who dealt with someone who got it from Platlord.

Last night a nice player gave away 1,000 plats each to 15 winners by /random 100. He also gave away several very nice items. I thought it was great fun, but I would not have participated if there was a chance that what I was really going to "win" was a ban from the game.

What would you advise? Thanks!

Ephi
05-14-2013, 02:07 PM
Even before I installed Titanium EQ and stepped into the world of Project 1999 I knew, from the forums, No RMT. (Just like No Two-Boxing.) But I quickly learned that there's no reason to RMT anyway. The Project 1999 community is superior to the original EQ in that the majority of folk are very very kind and will help a newbie any way they can.

From my very first character, I've received lots of great newbie items and lots of plats whenever I'm in my newbie zone leveling. Once, I almost fell out of my chair laughing when, out of the blue, a dwarf inspects me and says: "Mother of God! A Real Newbie!!!" He then handed me 1,000 plats and ran off.

So I'm wondering if one point of your PSA is that I need to be careful because someone might give me plats or some item that came from someone who dealt with someone who got it from Platlord.

Last night a nice player gave away 1,000 plats each to 15 winners by /random 100. He also gave away several very nice items. I thought it was great fun, but I would not have participated if there was a chance that what I was really going to "win" was a ban from the game.

What would you advise? Thanks!

I wouldn't worry about it. We can tell the difference, and receiving an item or platinum that was RMT related does not make you guilty unless you're the original receiver from the RMT account.

Savok
05-14-2013, 04:28 PM
How to get accounts banned. Make a new account, buy plat, give out plat to (not so) random people. Get (not so) random people banned?

Nirgon
05-15-2013, 03:30 PM
How about the recent spree of passwords getting changed

odiecat99
05-18-2013, 11:07 PM
if anything prices will increase

thefloydian
06-04-2013, 09:58 PM
They can just reset their modem and get a new one. /facepalm

I admittedly don't know much about computers, but it seems like there should be a way to ban their IP. You can get IP banned from internet forums.

quido
06-04-2013, 10:03 PM
any sketchball worth his salt can change his IP/use a proxy

quido
06-04-2013, 10:04 PM
if anything prices will increase

Doesn't appear to be the case

thefloydian
06-04-2013, 10:29 PM
any sketchball worth his salt can change his IP/use a proxy

Yeah, but wouldn't it still be worthwhile to ban any accounts associated with that IP?

quido
06-04-2013, 10:31 PM
the real sketchballs probably use a different IP for each account

thefloydian
06-04-2013, 10:36 PM
the real sketchballs probably use a different IP for each account

Well it obviously wouldn't catch everything, but I'm guessing it wouldn't be a complete waste either.