Have the AC changes gone live yet?

[Tajin898]

Yes, this post is out of frustration, so just humor me.

In Oasis, just got fully buffed up by a nice high level druid. I'm twinked myself, have about 30k in gear (I'm a druid, but with gear and buffs I sit at about 400 AC at level 13).

I run up to a yellow-con Deepwater Caiman. Its max hit is 34 damage. Here is a log of its hits against me:

Fight begins:
-14dmg
-34
-30
-7
-16
-34
-21
-34
-34
-34
-30
-16
-34
-32
-8
-34
-30
-34
-32
-34
Dead.

[oldhead]

can i half ur gear?

[President]

I believe someone posted a link about how AC works and the usable amount of AC on casters is much lower than a warrior. It was something like... up to 400 ac on warriors is true AC, anything past that is half ac.. so if you had 600 AC, you actually only had 500... but something like casters only had 100 or 150 usable..

I'm sure I am wrong on the numbers, but not necessarily how it works. Though, it can't be confirmed that's how it works here.

So, your druid is going to suck at tanking no matter how much AC he has.

And, no, the AC revamp has not gone in yet.

[Cogwell]

I'm a druid,

I run up to a yellow-con Deepwater Caiman.

[Tajin898]

Yea....wow Cogwell didn't think about that. Because no one on EQ has ever twinked a character. And no one has ever taken a twinked character and engaged anything that wasn't blue. And certainly no one has taken a twinked character, with a lvl 50 druid hp buff, regen and thorns, and killed anything that conned greater than blue.

[BeelzeBob]

Ditto on what President said. 400 is well over your AC cap for level. In other words, the AC fix isn't going to affect you much when it does go live.

[Tajin898]

Ditto on what President said. 400 is well over your AC cap for level. In other words, the AC fix isn't going to affect you much when it does go live.

Ok well that makes sense then. Didn't realize priest classes were so vastly unaffected by armor, but that definitely gives me a different outlook on gameplay decisions. Thanks for the info.

[oldhead]

Just to point out... you should have Mana/Wis/HP gear on.... Not ac gear.

You spent your 30k wrong. But can I halfs ur gear pls?

[Dantes]

I haven't seen any patch notes.

[oldhead]

root snare dot dot dot.... Nuke


At low levels Root snare nuke nuke root nuke nuke nuke

[Erasong]

I believe someone posted a link about how AC works and the usable amount of AC on casters is much lower than a warrior. It was something like... up to 400 ac on warriors is true AC, anything past that is half ac.. so if you had 600 AC, you actually only had 500... but something like casters only had 100 or 150 usable..

I'm sure I am wrong on the numbers, but not necessarily how it works. Though, it can't be confirmed that's how it works here.

So, your druid is going to suck at tanking no matter how much AC he has.

And, no, the AC revamp has not gone in yet.

this

[Aeolwind]

It's armor type: Cloth, Leather, Chain, Plate. In that order of protection level. At the low end the worn AC soft cap on live is < 100 and the plate ac softcap is > 250.

No, those numbers aren't exact cause I ain't real sure what haynar plugged in, I just know the rough estimates of the classic values.

[Tajin898]

Just to point out... you should have Mana/Wis/HP gear on.... Not ac gear.

You spent your 30k wrong. But can I halfs ur gear pls?

Hehe I don't think I spent it wrong. Have mostly best in slot peices, and then adamantite bands for HP. One of the side effects of having very strong gear is that it usually comes with a little more AC than one would normally have. So, to the point, I didn't spend 30k stacking AC. The AC came naturally with the gear.

Was just confused why it didn't seem to be making any difference, but I understand now.

[Tajin898]

It's armor type: Cloth, Leather, Chain, Plate. In that order of protection level. At the low end the worn AC soft cap on live is < 100 and the plate ac softcap is > 250.

No, those numbers aren't exact cause I ain't real sure what haynar plugged in, I just know the rough estimates of the classic values.

Thanks Aeolwind, really appreciate the information!

[Aeolwind]

We've found a lot of good information on the combat stuff, so you can probably expect further changes to both you benefit and detriment in the future. =) I <3 detriment.

[Tajin898]

benefit

Woohoo!

and detriment

/cry

[oldhead]

Hehe I don't think I spent it wrong. Have mostly best in slot peices, and then adamantite bands for HP. One of the side effects of having very strong gear is that it usually comes with a little more AC than one would normally have. So, to the point, I didn't spend 30k stacking AC. The AC came naturally with the gear.

Was just confused why it didn't seem to be making any difference, but I understand now.

Cool, I would still recommend high mana pool.

[oldhead]

and that you give me 15k for that advice

[Chicka]

I <3 detriment.

You DID work for Sony.

[Aeolwind]

You DID work for Sony.

Sony catered, Verant drove home their point with the cruel spear of a true DM/GM.

When I DM a PNP game, I make it my number one priority to make someone scream 'F(&* YOU!!" at least once.

"Sure, you can draw from the Deck of Many Things. How many cards?"
"Sure, the constabulary around here should be no match for you."
"Sure, you can try to jump across that chasm."
"Sure, you have a chance to beat that dragon."
"Please, would I put you up against something you couldn't handle?"
"Oh, that stinks. How many HP did you have left again?"
"Oh wow, I hope you make the save."
"Naa, you don't think there is anything of value in here."
"You don't think the King will be upset about you sleeping with his virgin daughter that is betrothed to the blahblah kingdom that they've been at war with for 200 years."

Only 1 time in my DM'ing career have I regretted someone drawing from a deck. It has 22 cards, 11 good, 11 really freakin bad. He called 11 cards. To not let my poor poker face give me away I shuffled the deck without looking and laid them out in front of him side by side. He fliped over 11 cards, all of them red/good. I almost had a stroke.

[Soft]

onyxia is deep breathing more in this patch

[soup]

Cool, I would still recommend high mana pool.

Hmmm... I wonder if "best in slot" pieces for a druid would help in that goal of a high mana pool!

[Thoughtseize]

If you are concerned about AC make sure you are rocking a shield in your offhand as shield AC does not go against your softcap making it by far the most bang for you buck.

[Haynar]

If you are concerned about AC make sure you are rocking a shield in your offhand as shield AC does not go against your softcap making it by far the most bang for you buck.
Voted as the #1 post of the day!!!!

[Alawen Everywhere]

root snare dot dot dot.... Nuke


At low levels Root snare nuke nuke root nuke nuke nuke

This is absolutely completely wrong. At low levels, solo druids melee. We don't even get a dot until level 14. The nerf on dot damage is not implemented until Velious or Luclin or thereabouts, so rooting is a complete waste of mana at low level.

Low level druid strategy: buff yourself with skin, coat, strength and shield or as much as you have if you're under level nine. Single pull with harmony and flame lick. Beat that shit down! Heal yourself with treeform regen. Repeat!

In your teens, you should be able to charm an animal and have it beat up another then break with hide and kill them both but it doesn't work on P99, so you're going to start kiting because stuff starts hitting too hard. When you start dot kiting, kill yellows and reds. Snare and our dot line are both low resist and you get way more xp for doing a little more xp.

Group when you get an offer, because it'll be faster until... level 34! Yaye quad! Tell groups to piss off! They won't want you anyway, because we're crappy healers at that point.

[Sarkhan]

Also like to point out that a shield's AC is the determining factor in mitigating dmg when warriors /shield someone... Not sure if that skill is in P99 since i didn't actually create my warrior in EQ till 2003... Always played necro before that :-D

[akahdrin]

heh if you spent 30k on a druid you did something wrong.

other than a manastone, nothing on your druid should cost more than a paw of opolla. A whole 3k. Rest of it is all under 1k gear, most of it is probably 100-400pp.

[Tajin898]

heh if you spent 30k on a druid you did something wrong.

other than a manastone, nothing on your druid should cost more than a paw of opolla. A whole 3k. Rest of it is all under 1k gear, most of it is probably 100-400pp.

Yea, you're right.
Golden Efreeti Boots are under 1k
Pearl Kedge Totem is under 1k
Brown Chitin Protector is under 1k
Reed Belt is under 1k
Manastone is under 1k
Platinum Tiara is under 1k
Onyx Drakescale Cloak is under 1k

......?

[Combo]

My Jboots feel slower.