Platinum Sink Idea

[justin2090]

This would be for the MQ-able velious armor. Instead of handing in gems, make it a set plat amount.

Example: Champion's Breastplate - 1 x Corroded Breastplate 3x Flawless Diamonds

Instead do 1 x Corroded Breastplate and 15k (5k per Flawless Diamond)

Then either take the Flawless Diamonds out or give them a hefty vendor price.

Suggestions?

[fohkure]

not classic

[Ephirith]

I think it'd be better to talk about the merits of non-classic solutions in general instead of continuously trying to come up with plat sinks. There are many, many good plat sink ideas already... but I think the major reason they aren't pursued is an aversion toward 'customization' among the developers.

Discontent with raiding seems to be a more visible issue than inflation, and that still hasn't seen a non-classic solution beyond the system currently in place. And yes we've all heard "bla bla bla 2 years of kunark isnt classic, variance isnt classic, im a neckbeard"

My suggestion is they leave the economy alone, and continue avoiding high levels of intervention and customization. I don't think the current levels of mudflation are even all that destructive. It was still proportionately far easier for me to get a fungi tunic etc on p99 than it was for me at this point on live.

[webrunner5]

If you think 15k is a "Plat Sink" I got some news for you. :D

[Samoht]

they need to put 1-dose random invis pots that are lore / no rent on shady swashbuckler. make them cost 1k a piece. they give random illusions that don't give faction boosts like mage pets or scare crows or werewolf or somethin

[Shocore]

For 1 million platinum, you can have someone's account banned, with the "official" justification being that it was because they wrote an erotic fanfic.

CLASSIC

[Clark]

If you think 15k is a "Plat Sink" I got some news for you. :D

[Tiggles]

For 1 million platinum, you can have someone's account banned, with the "official" justification being that it was because they wrote an erotic fanfic.

CLASSIC

I would enjoy this feature.

[Savok]

I would be happy with 15K in my bank :/

[fuark]

a 15k plat sink only hurts casual players who dont have much to begin with, it doesnt even dent those with 500k or 1 million plat, even those of us with 100-200k in the bank arent the ones who need to have a plat sink

even so, the mudflation isnt really that big of an issue, outside of still stupidly priced items like fungi tunics, there are very few items on this server that arent affordable

[justin2090]

a 15k plat sink only hurts casual players who dont have much to begin with

The flawless diamonds will eventually drop to 5k a piece like they did on live. Casuals will still have to buy them in EC from the non-casuals. Making the non-casuals even richer.

[justin2090]

If you think 15k is a "Plat Sink" I got some news for you. :D

700 ppl on during peak hours. 700 x 15k? 10.5 mil.

And that's just the chest piece. Some people have several toons they will gear with velious armor. And the server population will increase when velious launches.

Adding any plat sink would be "not classic". So if you had to have one, I think this is it because it doesn't change much. You still get the "classic" armor at the same "classic" price.

[LiQuid]

It has been said before but just let me buy a guise. I don't care what the price is. If it's a billion plat I will ruin the day of every decaying skeleton holding a staff until I can afford one and then my fortune will be gone.

[webrunner5]

700 ppl on during peak hours. 700 x 15k? 10.5 mil.



There are people on here that have that much alone. Still no big deal.

[letsallkillandy]

It has been said before but just let me buy a guise. I don't care what the price is. If it's a billion plat I will ruin the day of every decaying skeleton holding a staff until I can afford one and then my fortune will be gone.

I know its "not classic" but allowing vanity items to be bought via vendor could put quite a dent in the large amounts of plat people have.

[Cippofra]

I know its "not classic" but allowing vanity items to be bought via vendor could put quite a dent in the large amounts of plat people have.

And how is this fair to people who plan on selling their guised accounts who arent filthy rich? Taking away one of the few methods poor players have to get decent equipment isn't exactly the answer either. Imagine the majority of active accounts with a guise are already the filthy rich players, but I would think theres a few waiting to come back who have one that can't buy anything they want.

Fact is, there's nothing you can do that doesn't hurt either the casuals or the power gamers. As games/servers get older they simply get to a point where the casuals suffer and everything becomes about the power gamers. It's inevitable.

[Lojik]

And how is this fair to people who plan on selling their guised accounts who arent filthy rich? Taking away one of the few methods poor players have to get decent equipment isn't exactly the answer either. Imagine the majority of active accounts with a guise are already the filthy rich players, but I would think theres a few waiting to come back who have one that can't buy anything they want.

Fact is, there's nothing you can do that doesn't hurt either the casuals or the power gamers. As games/servers get older they simply get to a point where the casuals suffer and everything becomes about the power gamers. It's inevitable.

Selling accounts for plat isn't classic either...

[citizen1080]

And how is this fair to people who plan on selling their guised accounts who arent filthy rich? Taking away one of the few methods poor players have to get decent equipment isn't exactly the answer either. Imagine the majority of active accounts with a guise are already the filthy rich players, but I would think theres a few waiting to come back who have one that can't buy anything they want.

Fact is, there's nothing you can do that doesn't hurt either the casuals or the power gamers. As games/servers get older they simply get to a point where the casuals suffer and everything becomes about the power gamers. It's inevitable.

Valid point, but if/when they ban account selling. It becomes moot.

Other than their account becomes less "special"

[Splorf22]

I much prefer the idea of a merchant offering illusion masks for 500k. It's not classic but it's a cool feature and I know for a fact that would drain millions out of the economy. I'd get a stone of gnoming for sakuragi for sure.

[Cippofra]

Valid point, but if/when they ban account selling. It becomes moot.

Other than their account becomes less "special"
Have they actually talked about putting an end to the account selling? That may very well end up doing more bad than good. I imagine there's a fair bit of account trading that results in people not getting burned out and bored too quickly. If I could trust people to do it I'd trade accounts all the time as I don't have enough to twink or buy pl

[Stinkum]

Have they actually talked about putting an end to the account selling? That may very well end up doing more bad than good. I imagine there's a fair bit of account trading that results in people not getting burned out and bored too quickly. If I could trust people to do it I'd trade accounts all the time as I don't have enough to twink or buy pl

Nilbog has stated from the very beginning that account selling is frowned upon, and the minute they figure out how to fully prevent all account transactions, say goodbye.

[Nirgon]

not classic

my hero

[tj218]

A full sever wipe could solve the problem nicely...

[Rezonation]

Script a GM event where Jesse James robs the Freeport Bank of millions of coin. Norrathains are only insured for up to 250,000 platinum by the FDIC of Norrath. Robin Hood would then steal some of this money from Jesse James and spread it around to the poor of Norrath with less than 5,000 platinum in their bank accounts.

Solved!

[Gadwen]

Script a GM event where Jesse James robs the Freeport Bank of millions of coin. Norrathains are only insured for up to 250,000 platinum by the FDIC of Norrath. Robin Hood would then steal some of this money from Jesse James and spread it around to the poor of Norrath with less than 5,000 platinum in their bank accounts.

Solved!

You have a future in government.

[Rhambuk]

Whats with all the plat sink ideas?

some people have been playing for years, their going to have alot of plat. Some people are just starting they aren't going to have a lot of plat. are we going to try and rob people of their years of work just because the new don't have as much?

foolish, would only cause problems and a lot of those people would quit hurting the populations. Plat sinks would only hurt the community (Minus those that it wouldn't affect IE people that have been playing for less than a year.

On live if you started during velious and saw items for multiple k would you scream and cry for a plat sink/server wipe because your behind the veterans?

[myriverse]

Just give all your plat to me. I promise to destroy it for the benefit of the server. Honest.

[big league chew]

o gawd ppl have too much plat
next thing u know someones gonna make a super twink alt and sit in ec tunnel making noobies feel bad about themselves :(

[Rezonation]

Whats with all the plat sink ideas?

I was being facetious. I really don't care either way.

[Rhambuk]

at least your idea was interesting/entertaining )

[Raavak]

I say make a Shadowhaven-esque casino.

[fastboy21]

i don't think this is a problem that needs fixing. Prices on p99 are not out of control compared to live. If anything, the BIG high end items are cheap on p99. People are selling full epic MQs for reasonable sums of money, for example.

The biggest variables affecting the economy on p99 compared to live-in-era servers is the length of time spent before expansion release and the vastly increased game knowledge of the average player...neither of which can rlly be made to go away by the devs.

The next biggest issue is probably the RMT, which it seems like they do everything they can reasonably do to curtail.

[TarukShmaruk]

For 1 million platinum, you can have someone's account banned, with the "official" justification being that it was because they wrote an erotic fanfic.

CLASSIC

That fanfic was pretty fucking creepy because it involved an underaged character and frankly the writer was creepy and the company has to look out for its own interests.

[hatelore]

You have a future in government.

Lol , good reply.

[SirSmithington]

A full sever wipe could solve the problem nicely...

Is this the going nuclear method? heh

I remember seeing someone in EC tunnel on a naked looking chick who had over 14 million and put it in trade randomly and canceled it. Why no accept? :)

[porigromus]

not classic

So is variance but that is in game to supposedly "improve" or shall I say customize this server. Where is the line drawn? What "improvements" are okay and which ones are not?

[Rhambuk]

a plat wipe would only cause people to quit, prices would probably go up as people are trying to make their lost fortunes back

[Vandy]

Character name changes charge like 100k.
But have a list on the p99 forums of characters who have name changed just so people can't dodge rep.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

If you think 15k is a "Plat Sink" I got some news for you. :D


i lulled

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

how about one million plat buys you a cloak animation?

[Torrinn]

How about adding a cash payment to all quest turn ins? The bigger the reward, the larger the cash payment required to do the turn in. Nothing else has to change so you can still call it classic, the only difference would be you have to give up some cash to finish the quest. Modifying the frequency and amount of coin drops from mobs would help with inflation, too. There's a lot of mobs that shouldn't drop coin at all like animals and low level undeads like skels and zombies that shouldn't be carrying around money in the first place because it's useless to them.

[Rhambuk]

oooor we could just leave it as it is because there is no problem...

[Waedawen]

not classic

If only that actually meant something.

[t0lkien]

How about adding a cash payment to all quest turn ins? The bigger the reward, the larger the cash payment required to do the turn in. Nothing else has to change so you can still call it classic, the only difference would be you have to give up some cash to finish the quest. Modifying the frequency and amount of coin drops from mobs would help with inflation, too. There's a lot of mobs that shouldn't drop coin at all like animals and low level undeads like skels and zombies that shouldn't be carrying around money in the first place because it's useless to them.

I think some of you may be having trouble coming to terms with what classic means, and the aim of p99 ;)

[Rhambuk]

I think some of you may be having trouble coming to terms with what classic means, and the aim of p99 ;)

so true.

there are problems but nothin that isnt "classicly possible" obviously people didnt have over 1 mil plat in kunark live but thats not to say they couldnt. people on p99 are 100x more hardcore than people in classic, we have the knowledge and technology to do things we could (how many 1999 computers could handle a bard kiting all of the overthere) not back then

obviously we all want a 100% classic experience but its impossible and too demanding on our devs who have and continue to go above and beyond hat they start deleting plat and forcin raid encounters to onlu have like 40 people max just because people didnt raid wih 100+ on live even whwn 2 vuilds are there.

we cant or shouldnt force people to play a certain way. if a guild has 75 people that want to raid hey should be able to. if someone puts in the time to farm 1mil plat they should be allowed to keep it. yes there have been issies of item/plat duping but im almst positive when discovered the gms delete it.

typos on mobile when is the holographic keyboard comin out

[Swish]

As soon as you make major deviations from what live offered to what we have here... you're going to run into dozens of forum trolls with their simple two word defense.

P99 donations for pixels? I can see a lawsuit.

P99 casino bot in EC? A true platsink if bets placed are destroyed afterwards and not lootable :D ...problem? We didn't have that on live, but we didn't have this economy situation on live either (ye olde "Velious was released by now on live" argument).

Outlaw casinos (classic) and make people play through a casino NPC... and you'll maybe prevent inflation, but you certainly won't see much of a decrease in plat floating around.

Perhaps people would be less inclined to find alternative plat sources if MQs were banned, but then again that would upset certain guilds and also isn't classic.