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Aeolwind
05-29-2013, 05:18 PM
OK! This train wreck of a zone is heading back to the path of righteousness. A few problems persist as their were no logs generated of this zone during Velious. SO! To get things more normal I need some help.

Keep in mind, Skyshrine is full of 'named' mobs. Each mob only spawned in 1 place with a scant few exceptions: a_gargoyle_guard, a_shambling_cube, etc. We've dwindled it from several hundred down to less than 150 where it should be. Luckily, they just copied the new mobs onto the same spawn points as the old mobs. So we just had to remove the new and the problem fixed itself. However, there are some bad holes.

DONE I have 200 copies of Laoch Yilnor scattered all over the freaking zone. What is his home loc? Same goes for at least 2 Fe'Dhars. Era correct locs for anything is super useful.
DONE Armor quest mobs! What was their order around the room? Anyone giving me locs in the library will be hanged.
DONE Wurms! More photos would help. I've placed some off screenshots, few more to go.

Spell merchants & merchants in general! All merchants inventory?
Skyshrine drops. I never hunted here, I was ally COV for 90% of Velious, still am iirc even after a LONG haul hunting in north. From this loot table http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6190, how much is Classic Velious Era correct? Same goes for Guardian and Sentry armor.
Any Era Correct combat parses or logs? I'm pretty sure the developers haven't touched HP in Skyshrine in a long, long time. But I'd rather be sure.
Faction I remember.
'Old Yelinak' vs 'New Yelinak', I'd like some feedback from those of you that fought him early in Velious.
Wizard Gate spells to Velious? Where were they?


Updated list with complete stuff. New questions added at end of thread.

Ele
05-29-2013, 05:44 PM
http://web.archive.org/web/20011004205059/http://gameznet.com/eq/maps/skyshrinecomp-1.html
August 2001 map of Skyshrine

http://i.imgur.com/xdsOkJL.gif
http://i.imgur.com/jTfBoLj.gif
http://i.imgur.com/Sm7suUI.gif
http://i.imgur.com/9eoUkrz.gif
http://i.imgur.com/ToLoD6H.gif
http://i.imgur.com/aPuojwj.gif
http://i.imgur.com/XsAyTLU.gif

Uggme
05-29-2013, 05:46 PM
YAY! Skyshrine! One of my fav zones from EQ :) I'll see if I can hunt down any info when I get home today.

Aeolwind
05-29-2013, 06:02 PM
Been using the map. But it is missing names. There are almost 30 Fe'Dhar's and 20ish Laoch's to find the correct homes for.

maximum
05-29-2013, 06:27 PM
Armor quest mobs! What was their order around the room? Anyone giving me locs in the library will be hanged.
Spell merchants & merchants in general! What were the 5 spell merchants in the 'spell room' and what were their inventories? Also, what was their order around the room or locs? All merchants inventory?
Actually, ANY and ALL era accurate spawn information in this zone (even screenshots, I found several homes based on Alla screenshots) would help.
Wurms! More photos would help. I've placed some off screenshots, few more to go.


Some of those old YouTube "nostalgia" videos might be helpful to spot mob locations in SS.

First hit: http://youtu.be/iJKI1rLXNlw?t=13s

Ele
05-29-2013, 06:51 PM
Armor quest mobs! What was their order around the room? Anyone giving me locs in the library will be hanged.

West column (North to South):

Umakith Fe`Dhar (Bard) : 1652, 1371
http://mqemulator.net/npc.php?id=114628

Qynydd Fe`Dhar (Druid) : 1591, 1371
http://mqemulator.net/npc.php?id=114624

Fardonad Fe`Dhar (Cleric) : 1546, 1371
http://mqemulator.net/npc.php?id=114612

Abudan Fe`Dhar (Necro): 1502, 1371
http://mqemulator.net/npc.php?id=114593

Lothieder Fe`Dhar (Enchanter): 1461, 1371
http://mqemulator.net/npc.php?id=114619

Ocoenydd Fe`Dhar (Mage) : 1396, 1371
http://mqemulator.net/npc.php?id=114621

Elaend Fe`Dhar (Wizard) : 1350, 1371
http://mqemulator.net/npc.php?id=114610

East Column (North to South):

Should probably adjust these to the ( )'d locs for mirrored columns. The original locs include the addition of Beastlord wyvern placement which took the line off center to squeeze them all in.

Komawin Fe`Dhar (Monk) : 1641, 1021 (1652, 1021)
http://mqemulator.net/npc.php?id=114615

Crendatha Fe`Dhar (Rogue) : 1565, 1021 (1591, 1021)
http://mqemulator.net/npc.php?id=114609

Jendavudd Fe`Dhar (Warrior) : 1515, 1005 (1546, 1021)
http://mqemulator.net/npc.php?id=114613

Onerind Fe`Dhar (SK) : 1452, 1005 (1502, 1021)
http://mqemulator.net/npc.php?id=114623

Nalelin Fe`Dhar (Ranger) : 1415, 1021 (1461, 1021)
http://mqemulator.net/npc.php?id=114620

Adwetram Fe`Dhar (Paladin) : 1366, 1021 (1396, 1021)
http://mqemulator.net/npc.php?id=114594

Asteinnon Fe`Dhar (Shaman) : 1344, 1021 (1350, 1021)
http://mqemulator.net/npc.php?id=114595

Ele
05-29-2013, 07:12 PM
I have 200 copies of Laoch Yilnor scattered all over the freaking zone. What is his home loc? Same goes for at least 2 Fe'Dhars. Era correct locs for anything is super useful.

Using information from mqemulator.net Laoch Yilnor has a location of 1884, 1970.

http://mqemulator.net/npc.php?id=114548&view=spawnlocations

Combine that with the anecdote from Dec. 2000 http://tunare.yuku.com/forum/viewtopic/id/2370 The picture links no longer work (not even on archive.org), but he describes the room before Yelinak with the Laoch Chief:
The middle one is Laoch Chief Seti. His guards are only mobs gave me reponse after hail. Like this: Laoch Yilnor ignore your greeting.

Using this map (http://i.imgur.com/aPuojwj.gif), Laoch Chief is the dark purple dot in the center on the west side of room 5, the above loc from eqemulator puts Laoch Yilnor just to the north of Chief or to his left which happens to coincide with that light pink marker nicely.

kingsBlend
05-29-2013, 07:14 PM
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/36877672.jpg

Splorf22
05-29-2013, 07:21 PM
That zone looks impressively large (insert penis joke here)

Volibear
05-29-2013, 07:23 PM
Elethia doing big things

Aeolwind
05-29-2013, 08:45 PM
Elethia doing big things

Yeah, impressing the shitaki mushrooms outta me that is for sure. MQEmulator was really off on some targets so I'd disregarded it completely. Thanks for making me reevaluate.

That zone looks impressively large (insert penis joke here)
Makes Holmes look like a midgets finger.

Incubo
05-29-2013, 10:48 PM
Guardian plate armor definitely classic. My warrior on RZ had/has a full set.

Aeolwind
05-30-2013, 09:06 AM
I think this is the last thing I need for spawns in Skyshrine:

I need the names of the 3 Fe'Dhars that spawn in the room labeled 2 on map 4.
Teoc, Meonyc and ?

Ele
05-30-2013, 09:36 AM
Guardian plate armor definitely classic. My warrior on RZ had/has a full set.

Regarding Guardian Armor drops:
http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10737&highlight=skyshrine

WL zone line guardians get nerfed within 1 month of Velious release:
The 2 at the entrance were nerfed and don't drop anything anymore, and they have 10x more hps and are 10x harder but are also 20 levels lower...anti zone out camping I guess.

Ele
05-30-2013, 09:36 AM
I think this is the last thing I need for spawns in Skyshrine:

I need the names of the 3 Fe'Dhars that spawn in the room labeled 2 on map 4.
Teoc, Meonyc and ?

Does Veobryn Fe`Dhar need a home? It might be him from my research. Nothing definitive though.

falkun
05-30-2013, 10:30 AM
IDK if you already found this:
Map 4, the northern-most Laoch in the room with the pillar (this is a guess based on the picture):
http://hem.passagen.se/janande/Laoch_Ealkiq.jpg
Source:http://hem.passagen.se/janande/

The image agrees with the MQEmulator.net spawn location of (424, 1130)
Source: http://mqemulator.net/npc.php?id=114560&view=spawnlocations

Aeolwind
05-30-2013, 04:35 PM
Sentry Suil [?!?], Sentry Alacos [?!?] They need replaced with what? Non classic mobs
What Guardian spawns next to Sentry Rotiart?

Good find on Veobryn, he is the one!

Did any mob that could drop guardian drop all the pieces and same for Sentry?

Ele
05-30-2013, 06:51 PM
What Guardian spawns next to Sentry Rotiart?

http://www.angelfire.com/co/ertia4000/images/skyshrine/ss06.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Hrah4Go.jpg

The text window shows Rishada conning "Guardian Olgax" in the Rotiart room.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6203

The angelfire link has a lot of picture that might help with placement. http://www.angelfire.com/co/ertia4000/skyshrine.html

Ele
05-30-2013, 07:04 PM
Did any mob that could drop guardian drop all the pieces and same for Sentry?

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4095
What drops it?
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#Dec 18 2000 at 11:17 PMRating: Good
KarkasFleshrott
Sage

52 posts
Guardians in Skyshrine. I believe they have a chance to drop any piece of Guardian armor as uncommon, and very rarely the Guardian Robe.


http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4354
Apr 24 2001 at 3:30 PM Rating: Good Syd 5 posts
We've seen these drop only off guardians. Seen two in the courtyard and one off Selbepp in the pantry with the baker and cook. All of the guardian armor is very rare except the bracers now as Verant nerfed the whole zone because people were camping twinks there to loot the nodrops. Been there in skysrhine a month now with over 1k confirmed kills :) and still looking for BP and Legs.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=3943
Dropped off Sentry
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#Mar 23 2001 at 5:34 PMRating: Sub-Default
Anonymous
Anonymous
The Guardian Breastplate I looted Dropped off of a Sentry, it's the only Guardian Breastplate I've seen drop and it came off a sentry. --Shrek

Oct 18 2001 at 7:54 PMRating: Excellent
Sutiea
Scholar
49 posts
Anyone wanting to get this Guardian Armor, here's some tips for you to get it:

I've hunted in SS awhile and now have even Yelinak faction maxed (or demaxed, as it can't get any worse), so this info is pretty reliable. Also, I have 2 characters with full suits of this stuff, and could've squeezed in a 3rd if I tried to.

First of all, you need to kill any of the guardians, and kill them alot. It says above that the common Gargoyle Guard can drop armor. I'm almost 99% sure this is not true, but there's always that 1% chance I could be wrong, but if you want guardian armor and nothing but guardian armor, it's best to avoid the Gargoyle Guards as much as possible. Easier said that done of course. Also, it's strange but I can 100% confirm that any of the sentry's can drop guardian armor too. It seems to be a rare occurence, but I've seen a Guardian Choker and another piece of guardian armor on a dead Sentry, so don't rule Sentry kills out. It's still best in all situations to just strictly hunt Guardians and nothing but Guardians.



regarding Guardian Robe:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=3912
Mar 05 2001 at 4:26 AMRating: Decent
Talian
49 posts
actually it is that rare. The Guardians can drop one item, and there are about 10. 1 in 10 kills drops....so do the math...1 in 100.

Also, sentries can drop guardian stuff. But never seen it the other way around.

Aeolwind
05-30-2013, 09:22 PM
Good info on the armor, thank you very much, Olgax however is in a slightly earlier room. The photo does answer my question. A gargoyle guardian is in the room to the right, Rotiart is the focal point.

Aeolwind
05-31-2013, 03:45 PM
Bumpity

Ele
05-31-2013, 05:21 PM
'Old Yelinak' vs 'New Yelinak', I'd like some feedback from those of you that fought him

Never fought the original one, so my interpretation and presentation of evidence is strictly based on what I can cobble together. Anyone with actual experience is encouraged to weigh in.

January 13, 2001 - Killed for the first time by Afterlife
http://web.archive.org/web/20010722004435/http://afterlifeguild.org/
Pictures:
http://web.archive.org/web/20010627065713/http://www.trysor.com/afterlife/yelinak.cfm


March 27, 2001 - Killed for the "first time" anywhere post-update
http://web.archive.org/web/20010722004435/http://afterlifeguild.org/
Lord Yelinak is Slain!
For the first time anywhere, Afterlife killed Lord Yelinak, the white dragon residing in Skyshrine. While the dragon has been killed before (including being killed by AL), he received some 'tuning' by VI, along with the various clerical nerfs which made him much more difficult to conquer...but not impossible for the likes of Afterlife.
Great Job Everyone!

The clerical nerfs referenced is probably the Donal's BP and Celestial Elixir BP nerfs (March 14, 2001) that came between each "first" kill.

Appears to have been a second upgrade around October 2001

http://web.archive.org/web/20011111011755/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=5597
Oct 25th 6:22 PM 2001 Hes has now been upgraded, to try him again :)
Nov 7th 5:06 AM 2001 try doing him with 4 groups now. thnx la~ {responding to a September 26, 2001 brag about killing with 4 groups}

Aeolwind
05-31-2013, 05:30 PM
All good sources and enough for me to prove the 'hard to prove' point to Nil. )

I'm working on the spell lists. In general, where did the gate spells come from? The portals I found.

Aeolwind
06-03-2013, 07:59 AM
Bumping for great justice.

Adding for flavor and fun: Taunt should not effect mobs above your level?

Ele
06-03-2013, 11:23 AM
Bumping for great justice.

Adding for flavor and fun: Taunt should not effect mobs above your level?

For a time.

------------------------------
March 6, 2001 3:00 am
------------------------------

*NPC AI Adjustments*

-- Level 60 players with the taunt skill will now have a chance to
taunt creatures that are level 60 to 65. Previously, players could only
taunt creatures below their level.

Nirgon
06-03-2013, 11:56 AM
Ele this thread is Dr. approved. Top drawer, sir.

fadetree
06-03-2013, 01:11 PM
Bumping for great justice.

Adding for flavor and fun: Taunt should not effect mobs above your level?

above or equal to your level.

FenninEQaddict
06-03-2013, 03:34 PM
Going to pull out my old hd from my eq comp and see if I still have any of this on there. If I do ill send you everything I can find. I used to keep logs on all the time when I played before.

Aeolwind
06-03-2013, 04:15 PM
above or equal to your level.

According to those patch notes (That I had previously found and prompted the question) that would be incorrect. If you have debating information I'll be happy to look.

So, 2 things for investigation: Boss mob interruption (cranking up to 11) and hopefully, reviewing taunt.

Interruption is way too easy. Moving a mob as little as .01 loc distance is enough to not even get the occasional 'regains concentration' message. You should have to beat mobs like Hoshkar, Silverwing, PDiddy and Gorenaire yards to stop a gate or heal, or sieve and 'hope' they don't regenerate enough on that tick to get it off. It is a big deal that needs addressed. I'm going to look at non-source options before I start bugging source folks. Not to mention the loot being incorrect in VP.

pallius
06-03-2013, 08:23 PM
I farmed a set of guardian and sentry for an alt bard and alt rogue about a month in to velious. Anything that drops guardian also drops sentry. I mostly farmed between zone in (not the first 2 after nerf) and the fountain area. I went as far back as the bank. They all could drop it.

I am not saying these are the only guys that dropped it, but confirming that they definitely did and they definitely dropped both.

pallius
06-03-2013, 08:27 PM
Later in the game if people get bored of Velious and we don't opt for Luclin... some quests involving upgrading this stuff would be cool:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6190

There was sooooooo much random/almost good gear in skyshrine.

Agatha
06-03-2013, 08:47 PM
I remember skyshrine being one of true tests of a mages patience in velious. And if you had a retard playing mage aswell. It was always a thing within our guild that whoever couldnt get to yeli's lair as a mage after being shown 3 times gets kicked. Was good fun.

pallius
06-03-2013, 09:30 PM
Mage in Velious was fun, especially in TOV.

/pet back off

Enygma
06-03-2013, 10:22 PM
Elethia doing big things

^

Enygma
06-03-2013, 11:40 PM
Elethia doing big things

^

Aeolwind
06-08-2013, 07:40 PM
Ok, NEW Question.

Mobs on Yelinak faction, I need a list!

Aeolwind
06-09-2013, 09:13 AM
Bump =D

Alanus
06-09-2013, 11:24 PM
Ok, NEW Question.

Mobs on Yelinak faction, I need a list!

I am fairly certain it is just Yelinak himself. I remember having to wait until he was up to check my Yelinak faction. I have no way to prove this, though :(

Aeolwind
06-10-2013, 08:03 AM
I am fairly certain it is just Yelinak himself. I remember having to wait until he was up to check my Yelinak faction. I have no way to prove this, though :(

While I know this statement isn't 100% true, after conferring with Nilbog and some logs he has, I know the 'list' of mobs involved in both Kael and in Skyshrine that will need to be modified.

And when people see it, it will be an 'aww crap' classic slap to the face =D.

Still looking for insight and feedback on these items as well


Skyshrine drops. I never hunted here, I was ally COV for 90% of Velious, still am iirc even after a LONG haul hunting in north. From this loot table http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6190, how much is Classic Velious Era correct? Same goes for Guardian and Sentry armor.
'Old Yelinak' vs 'New Yelinak', I'd like some feedback from those of you that fought him early in Velious.
Wizard Gate spells to Velious? Where were they?

Nirgon
06-10-2013, 12:02 PM
Well I know that the all important Kael faction was King Tormaxx. And that the Kromrif faction was basically useless for higher lvls aside from being liked by the NPCs in some variance.

I'm not sure which faction was required to do the armor turn ins (for SS faction) and which were on their faction. But! The point is the armor givers required their own faction in the Kael case, probably SS too. You only got faction for the armor givers by killing the bigger baddies (ie dwarf trash mobs in Great Divide... nothin' useful there, but killing any dwarf mobs in Ice Well... yeah that gave you the good faction)

I was a Kael guy and everything in there hated me.

Pray to the Sun and ask for the Dawg. You may get your faction answers.

Buellen
06-10-2013, 12:43 PM
Heya

log on to my 60 paly on eqmac. here is what I found

Grudash the baker Location 164 , neg 475.

sells : muffin, loaf of bread, ration, iron ration, water flask, bottle of kalish, mixing bowl, book dmixxy's delicacies vol 1, mixxy's delicacies vol 2, binelen's quick treats, binelen's succulence, delivered note, reconstructing mythology, notes.


Ruru the Cook location 147, neg 479

sells: muffin , loaf of bread, ration, iron ration, water flask, bottle kalish, book dmixxy's delicacies vol 1, book mixxy's delicacies vol 2, book binelen's quick treats, book binelen's succulence, book delivered note, Roasted Walrus with Plum Sauce, book liber Brassica Felix v4.

Tulgadin location 376, neg 619 , 43

Sells gems malachite, lapis lazuli, turquoise, hematite, cats eye agate, bloodstone, onyx, jasper, carnelian star rose quartz, amber, jade, pearl, topaz, peridot, emerald , opal,ruby jewelrs kit, book legacy of jewel craft.

Raelrik location 357, neg 628 , 43

Sells: torch, small lantern, large lantern, , belt pouch, backpack, large bag, bandages, water flask, muffin, loaf of bread, scorpion meat, bear meat, lion meat, gator meat, rat meat, snake meat

Zildainez location 310, neg 857 , 13

sells : Spell Brilliance, Incapacitate, Weakness, Rune IV, Discordant Mind, Group Resist Magic, Swift Like The wind, Beserker Spirit, Dazzle, Grasping Embrace, Adorning Grace, Shadow

Salginor location 278, neg 850, 13

Sells: Spell Augmentation, Listless Power, Clarity, Curse of the simplemind, Suffocate, Obscure, Dyne dizzing Draught, anarchy, entrance, cast sight, Rune III, Pacify, Invoke Fear, Celerity, Insight, Cajoling Whispers, Rampage, Shade.

Hytloc location 266, neg 868, 13

Sells Spells Burnout II , Dismiss Summoned, Rain of Spikes, Inferno Shield, Phantom Chain, Greater Summoning Fire, Greater Summoning Air, Cinder Bolt, Blaze , Minor Conjuration Earth, Minor Conjuration Water, Rain Of Lava, Flame Arc, Expell Summoned, Barrier of Combustion, Lesser Conjuration Air, Lesser Conjuration Fire, Adorning Grace, shadow

Guardian Trekolz location: 320, neg 876, 13

Sells Spells frost Shock, Leather Skin, Inferno Shock, Thunder Strike, Yonder, Bonds of Force, Steelskin, Ice Shock, Lighting Shock, Force Strike, Elemental Armor, Diamond Skin, conflagration, Frost Storm , Markar's Clash, Rend, Wakening Land's Portal , Iceclad portal, Great Devide portal, Cobalt Scare Portal. [B ]SOLD SINGLE BLUE DIAMON [B] not sure if this normal or not as non of the other nearby merchants had anything sold to them.) could have been a player came to this spell merchant and sold single blue diamond which would seem stranger but possible.

Guardian Seacly Location 293, neg 878, 13

Sells: Spells Elemental Armor, Malaisement, Shock of Swords, Banish Summoned, Phantom Plate, Conjuration Fire, Lava Bolt, Burnout III, Rain of Swords, Shield of Lava, Greater Conjuration Earth, Brillance, Incapacitate, Weakness, run IV, discordant Mind, Group Resist Magic, Grasping Embrace, Dazzle, Berserer Spirit.






Garue 37th level Half Elf Warrior follower of Karana // Buskier 33rd level human caleric follower of Rodcet Nife

Nirgon
06-10-2013, 02:19 PM
Oh I remember for armor hunting for sky shrine faction.

You had to kill mobs in Kael arena or deeper.

Killing mobs in GD/WL etc did not give the faction you needed for armor turn ins for SS.

100% confirmed.

maximum
06-10-2013, 03:20 PM
Regarding mobs on +Yelinak faction...

http://web.archive.org/web/20060219124945/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/faction.html?faction=200

Posted @ Fri, Aug 24th 5:05 AM 2001
"Currently I am indifferent to all the mobs in lower SS. We journeyed all the way to Yelinak last night and everything remained indifferent. Including the dragons in the pyramid room. Yelinak was the only thing that conned hostile to us. Even the huge gargoyle guardians just outside his lair conned indifferent to me."

Posted @ Thu, Mar 1st 4:14 AM 2001
"I'm amiable to all the residents until "Komawin Fe`Dhar scowls at you, ready to attack" very high in the tower. There is a room with a pyramid in the center and 6 or 8 wyvern to the left and right (well out of aggro range I believe). This beast is one of them. I suspect he and the rest of the room is on Yelinak faction. I did see others still further in that were "amiable" again."

Posted @ Fri, Jul 6th 2:27 AM 2001
"I went way far into SS today. All the way to the big one himself, everything along the way was Warmly. Just Yellinak himself was KOS. Also anyone know where the guys are that give out the armor quests? I must have missed them along the way. "

and

http://web.archive.org/web/20011111011755/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=5597

Posted @ Fri, Jul 13th 12:57 AM 2001
"I haven't heard that he gives any quests, although he may, as VERY few people are not KoS to Lord Yelinak. It's unrealistic because Velious is controlled by dragons. Therefore, a trip to Western Wastes could see you kiss Yelinak faction goodbye."

Lots of conflicting info abound!

Nirgon
06-10-2013, 04:07 PM
Max, think you were around during this era.

You do recall having to farm Arena and deeper for the SS armor quest whereas Thurg, I believe, required just whatever giants you could kill, right?

Loke
06-10-2013, 04:29 PM
Max, think you were around during this era.

You do recall having to farm Arena and deeper for the SS armor quest whereas Thurg, I believe, required just whatever giants you could kill, right?

What you're thinking of is different faction hits coming from the Kromrif and Kromzek giant factions. I believe Kromzek were the higher level mobs, such as in the arena, while many of the lower level mobs inside and outside of Kael were Kromrif. You needed Kromzek faction to quest the Kael armor, I think both Kromrif and Kromzek gave +Thurg faction where as only Kromzek gave +Skyshrine faction.

maximum
06-10-2013, 04:51 PM
Max, think you were around during this era.

You do recall having to farm Arena and deeper for the SS armor quest whereas Thurg, I believe, required just whatever giants you could kill, right?

Yes, Arena (and deeper) giants have a different faction set (compared to the trash mobs at entrances). I think someone else already replied.

I don't remember clearly about the Manor building (and Iceshard Keep area) having this different faction.

Aeolwind
06-10-2013, 05:57 PM
Buellen = Hero atm! Man, I really appreciate this info!!

Maximum: Yelinak/Tormax/Dain faction was required for armor quests for well beyond the Velious expansion IIRC, passed the release of Luclin. Your posts are an indicator. There are screenshots that are instant proof.

Currently, in research, I've only discovered 5 mobs that give a positive Yelinak faction hit. There are nearly a dozen that give a positive Tormax faction hit (mostly Coldain). And an almost equal number that give positive Dain hits.

This means that my recollection of how freakin hard it was to get Yeli faction is intact.

Aeolwind
06-10-2013, 06:05 PM
Kromzek - Claws of Veeshan
Kromrif - Coldain
Tormax - Yelinak & Dain
Dain - Tormax
Yelinak - Tormax
Derakor - Claws
Statue - Claws
Avatar - Claws

NOW, in researching I'm noticing a correlation between Dain and Yeli faction. Any mob that raised one, seems to raise the other. Any assistance helping prove/disprove that?

Aeolwind
06-10-2013, 06:13 PM
So, faction group examples will be

Zek up
Claws down
yeli down

Rif up
Coldain down
Dain down

Zek down
Tormax down
Claws up

Rif down
Tormax down
Coldain up

Zek down
Rift down
Dain up
Yelinak up

Coldain down
Dain Down
Tormax up

Claws down
Yeli down
Tormax up

Ele
06-10-2013, 06:41 PM
Maximum: Yelinak/Tormax/Dain faction was required for armor quests for well beyond the Velious expansion IIRC, passed the release of Luclin. Your posts are an indicator. There are screenshots that are instant proof.

Currently, in research, I've only discovered 5 mobs that give a positive Yelinak faction hit. There are nearly a dozen that give a positive Tormax faction hit (mostly Coldain). And an almost equal number that give positive Dain hits.

This means that my recollection of how freakin hard it was to get Yeli faction is intact.

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May 8, 2001 3:00 am
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** Quest Changes **

- We've made a change to the Velious armor quests. The folks in Kael
and in Skyshrine that give out rewards for these quests are now being
stricter about who they will reward quest items to. You will have to be
considered an 'ally' (see Features section below) by these NPCs in
order to be able to complete these quests. If you are doing quests for
the Coldain, however, they are somewhat less picky, and they only
require that they consider you 'kindly' to reward you for your labors.

...

- There is a new /consider message: "regards you as an ally". This is
the highest level of friendliness that an NPC will register using the
/consider command. The faction required to reach this rating is
significantly higher than 'warmly'.



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June 27, 2001 3:00 am
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** Quest Changes **

- King Tormax is now a little more particular about who he gives quests
to.


This thread also provides evidence that the Kael/Skyshrine quest armors come in an earlier less buff versions of themselves for the first 3.5 months of Velious, and then get buffed to the stats we currently know.

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8701&highlight=skyshrine+armor+quest
http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8841&highlight=skyshrine+armor+quest

March 13/14, 2013
http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8829&highlight=quest+armor+faction
Thurg armor doesnt have a chain look.
Quest givers on Yelinak faction

You can charm the quest giving mobs in skyshrine, so Yelinak faction isn't absolutely a requirement.



March 26, 2001
http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10815&highlight=quest+armor+faction
Rumor has it, that currently it is possible to have a non-kos enchanter charm the Kael and Skyshrine quest mobs (Green at 55) and walk them out to zone to complete quests, indifferent faction is all that is required.

It should also be noted that any with sneak skill, can complete the quests with only dubious faction (Since they can get back there, and get indifferent with sneak)

First rumor is unchecked, second is fact, and has been done a few times.

Khalim Richelieu
The Pantheon

March 21, 2001
http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8821&highlight=quest+armor+faction
Quest NPC for the Kael cleric armor is Vylleam Vyaeltor (located in room directly behind Tormax). Faction required is indifferent to Tormax (Dwarf heads to Bvellos, or kill Seneschal, Royal Guards, Dain, Velketor, or Yelinek for this). The quest npcs are low 30s in level and can be charmed. Faction needed to get there is Kromzek and Tormax. Components needed for the Quest are: 3 gems (varies with the piece) and the corresponding piece of ancient tarnished plate. Ancient tarnished plate drops in Temple of Veeshan of CoV factioned mobs (there's some right at zone in).


April 23, 2001
http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8903&highlight=quest+armor+faction
The quest givers in Skyshrine were recently changed from Yelniak to CoV faction, you only need to be indifferent to CoV to do the armor quests. Currently the only MOB in skyshrine that is Yelniak faction is Lord Yelniak himself.

Ele
06-10-2013, 06:42 PM
Kromzek - Claws of Veeshan
Kromrif - Coldain
Tormax - Yelinak & Dain
Dain - Tormax
Yelinak - Tormax
Derakor - Claws
Statue - Claws
Avatar - Claws

NOW, in researching I'm noticing a correlation between Dain and Yeli faction. Any mob that raised one, seems to raise the other. Any assistance helping prove/disprove that?

Speaking of factions in a general sense:
http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3013&highlight=quest+armor+faction
There are 3 factions overall

Giant
Dwarf
Dragon

The general relation is Dwarves and dragons hate giants.

There are 2 dwarf factions: Coldain and Dain.
+Coldain comes from killing most giants.
+Dain comes from giants on Tormax faction.
Killing any dwarf results in -Coldain and -Dain

There are 2 dragon factions: Claws of Veeshan and Lord Yelinak
+Claws comes from killing any giant.
+Yelinak comes from killing Tormax giants.
Killing any dragon results in -Claws and -Yelinak.

There are 4 giant factions: Kromrif, Kromzek, Storm and Tormax.
Kromrif comes from killing any dwarf not on Dain faction.
Kromzek comes from killing any dwarf not on Dain faction or any dragons not on Yelinak faction. (Kromzek is what the Kael quests are done on)
Tormax faction comes from any dwarf on Dain faction or any dragon on Yelinak faction.
I am uncertain what factions give +Storm
Killing any giant results in -Kromrif -Kromzek -Tormax

There are 3 factions specific to Tunare in Velious and 3 old world factions.
Tunarean Court (applies to mobs in the tower where the PoG tree is). Is linked to Claws faction somehow but not directly (ie killing a dragon won't make you KoS to them)
Servants of Tunare. Killing anything in PoG gives bad faction with them and there is no way to raise it back that I know of.
Protectors of Growth. Linked only to the PoGs in PoG. Can only go down too. No known way to raise.
The other 3 are
Faydarks Champions
Clerics of Tunare
I forget the last one but I know it is tied to Kelethin.

Aeolwind
06-10-2013, 07:01 PM
Not going to bite on all the EQCleric posts as gospel. Patch notes yes. But EQClerics had some doozeys.

pasi
06-10-2013, 07:21 PM
You basically had two ways to raise Dain and Yelinak faction. You could kill Tormax NPCs or you could Quest Claws of Veeshan/Coldain (very different from killing Kromrif/Kromzek to raise faction).

Tormax had 5 ways to raise faction. You could quest Kromzek (storm), you could quest Tormax, you could kill Dain Faction (Dain, Chamberlain, Seneschal, Grand Huntsman/Scribe, or Royal Guards). You could also kill Yelinak or Velketor the Sorceror.

Killing in NToV tanks your Claws of Veeshan and Guardians of Veeshan Faction, but doesn't impact Yelinak.

Basically in summation:

3 Giant Factions

Kill Kromrif (Frost)
+Coldain (major)
+Claws of Veeshan (minor)
-Kromrif (major)
-Kromzek (minor)

Kill Kromzek (storm)
+Claws of Veeshan (major)
-Kromzek (major)
-King Tormax (minor)
-Kromrif (minor)

Kill Tormax (Tormax, Dlammaz, Tormax Guards, Dlammaz PH, Fjorkar, Keldor)
+Yelinak (major)
+Dain (major)
-King Tormax (major)
-Kromzek (minor)

2 Dwarf Factions

Kill Coldain
+Kromrif (major)
+Kromzek(minor)
-Coldain (major)
-Dain (minor)

Kill Dain (Dain, Chamberlain, Seneschal, Grand Huntsman/Scribe, or Royal Guards)
+King Tormax (major)
-Dain Frostreaver (major)
-Coldain (minor)

3 Dragon Factions
Kill Claws of Veeshan
+Kromzek (major)
-Claws of Veeshan (major)
-Yelinak (minor)

Kill Yelinak (only Yelinak)
+King Tormax
-Yelinak (major)
-Claws of Veeshan (minor)

Kill Guardians of Veeshan (NToV)
-Guardians of Veeshan (doesn't matter, everyone is KoS)
-Claws of Veeshan (not sure if minor/major)

Questing
Quest Coldain
+Coldain (major)
+Dain (moderate)
-Kromrif (major)
-Kromzek (moderate)

Quest Dain (literally one quest that no one will ever do... ever)
+Dain (major)
+Coldain (moderate)
-King Tormax (major)

Quest Claws of Veeshan
+Claws of Veeshan (major)
+Yelinak (moderate)
-Kromzek (major)

Quest Yelinak (literally one quest)
+Yelinak (major)
+Claws of Veeshan (moderate)
-King Tormax (major)

Quest Kromrif
+Kromrif (major)
+Kromzek (moderate)
-Coldain (major)
-Claws of Veeshan (moderate)

Quest Kromzek
+Kromzek (major)
+King Tormax (moderate)
+Kromrif (moderate)
-Claws of Veeshan (major)

Quest Tormax (Dlammaz, Fjorkar, and Tormax Ques)
+King Tormax (major)
+Kromzek (moderate)
-Dain (major)
-Yelinak (major)

Then the odds and ends
Kill Velketor the Sorcerer: +King Tormax (major)
Some of the Wakening Land quests (Tunaraen Court) will raise/lower Kromzek, Claws, and Yelinak.

Ele
06-10-2013, 08:50 PM
Not going to bite on all the EQCleric posts as gospel. Patch notes yes. But EQClerics had some doozeys.

What issue do you have with the EQClerics' comments specifically?



December 20, 2001 Everlore Kael Armor Guide
http://web.archive.org/web/20010823093521/http://everlore.com/quests/default.asp?mode=35&id=314338
All these NPCs are found behind King Tormax's throne room in Kael Drakkal. You must have sufficient KingTormax faction to speak with them.

Aeolwind
06-10-2013, 09:02 PM
What issue do you have with the EQClerics' comments specifically?



December 20, 2001 Everlore Kael Armor Guide
http://web.archive.org/web/20010823093521/http://everlore.com/quests/default.asp?mode=35&id=314338

The charm part. We tried it. Repeatedly, died a few times. Even using dictate they wouldn't bite.

Buellen
06-11-2013, 02:22 AM
I don't have hard evidence but I remember that the cobolt scare and wakening lands were droped by mobs don't remember what zones.


also quick question are you going to require folks to get the tooth from each ring so they can port into them ?


Garu 37th half elf Warrior // Buskier 33 Human cleric

Buellen
06-11-2013, 02:41 AM
ok

here is one quest that was initially doable at dubious faction with COV faction. hardest part was to get the correct sentry kale up one version doesn't give this quest.

Velium retrival http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=969

it was changed near Dec 2002 you can see post talking about that change in faction their.

Anyhow Basicly you could spend 4 to 5k plate and get to max ally COV faction in a few hours.

ideally make a corpse In skyshrine have a rezer standing by have a druid/wiz port you to great divide do turn in thurgdain get rez rinse repeat. I did this on EQ Mac was amazingly fast.
The quest give 25 pts of cov faction and some pts of yalniak faction per turn in.

Obviously it was nerfed to require warmly faction because it was to easy to get to max ally cov faction and with enough ttime and money max yalniak faction.

Garue 37 Half elf warrior // Buskier 33 human cleric

PS sentery Kale location in eqmac is 186, neg 453 , 13. he is in same room as gurdash the bake rand ruru the cook

Aeolwind
06-11-2013, 10:37 AM
also quick question are you going to require folks to get the tooth from each ring so they can port into them ?


Yep.

oldschooltrader
06-11-2013, 10:59 AM
You do not lose Kromzek faction killing Kromrif

this was how i was in a Kromzek Giant guild ( killed Yelinak etc) but did the Coldain shawl

i could of done the shawl first then went to giants but i was young n we didnt kno it would have FT. Anyway i was Max KOS to dwarfs n killed tons of Frost giants n wolves in GD to gain Coldain faction but not lose Kromzek faction as I contined to do quests w Giants and roam parts of Kael freely. Eventually I was KOS to Frost giants but loved by Dwarf n Storm giants n of course hated by Dragons

( note what maybe happened was i was still killing dragons to keep my Zek faction high to offset killing the frost giants. Im not sure but i just remember seeing what I did as an obv way to fix dwarf for shawl but stay alligned with my guilds factions. I do not think I would have pursued the dwarf faction if i saw it wreck by storm giant faction at the same time. )

any other similar experiences?

heartbrand
06-11-2013, 11:02 AM
I can test this on live today if you're willing to accept that as proof. I can't imagine that the faction hits have changed.

oldschooltrader
06-11-2013, 11:05 AM
Also quest npcs behind Tormax were on Storm Giant faction

the problem was you couldnt get back there without Tormax faction bc he sees invis

the dragon armor and dwarf armor dont require Yelinak n Dain so the Giant armor didnt require Tormax, except for reaching the quest room. I forgot what faction u needed to do them

Aeolwind
06-11-2013, 11:57 AM
Also quest npcs behind Tormax were on Storm Giant faction

the problem was you couldnt get back there without Tormax faction bc he sees invis

the dragon armor and dwarf armor dont require Yelinak n Dain so the Giant armor didnt require Tormax, except for reaching the quest room. I forgot what faction u needed to do them

You are incorrect. Originally they did require Dain, Tormax and Yelinak factions.

Aeolwind
06-11-2013, 12:00 PM
I can test this on live today if you're willing to accept that as proof. I can't imagine that the faction hits have changed.

Some have. Most of the mobs in Skyshrine have moved. I could do it on Test myself, but doesn't help the current cause. And the mobs in Kael don't have the original faction requirements.

pasi
06-11-2013, 01:46 PM
The charm part. We tried it. Repeatedly, died a few times. Even using dictate they wouldn't bite.

Where specifically did you try the charm part?

EQ Mac's version of the Kael Quest mobs is going to be the later version of superbuffed version of the armor quest givers.

heartbrand
06-11-2013, 01:50 PM
I played EQ when velious was current and I never remember armor quests requiring leader factions. That must have been changed very quick after release if that's true.

oldschooltrader
06-11-2013, 02:26 PM
show me Aeolwind :)

im sure many people remember same thing I do, i played Velious n quit at Luclin so i kno the era. Here r a few quotes from Alla talking about a coldain merchant that rewards you with one of the armor quests ( druid bp)


http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=5868

Faction
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#Aug 31 2001 at 12:42 AMRating: Default
Anonymous
Anonymous
You have to have ally status w/ the folks of the city where you want to do the armor quests.

I am ally in Thurg and can get any class's armor quests simply by hailing the appropriate NPC.

Wolana Phoenixfyre, Kelethin-Xegony


RE: How to Raise Faction
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#Mar 04 2002 at 12:10 PMRating: Decent
Lazarus
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Kill Frost Giant Scouts or Drakkel Dire Wolves in The Great Divide. That will raise your Coldain faction up.

so maybe they changed it within the first couple months which on this server bc of this velious delay are we really gonna have to wait half a year to get the quest factions where it should properly end up? I dont think the basic class armor quests ever required the bosses ( besides sneaking by Tormax as i mentioned) i will show u more proof later but im on my phone at work, where is your info that its on the boss faction ?

Aeolwind
06-11-2013, 02:49 PM
Where specifically did you try the charm part?

EQ Mac's version of the Kael Quest mobs is going to be the later version of superbuffed version of the armor quest givers.

Skyshrine, the night we found the halls of testing. So, February-ish after release?

I played EQ when velious was current and I never remember armor quests requiring leader factions. That must have been changed very quick after release if that's true.

Not really. Lasted at least until March, and I have some screenshots that go out till April.

pasi
06-11-2013, 02:49 PM
I played EQ when velious was current and I never remember armor quests requiring leader factions. That must have been changed very quick after release if that's true.

I don't remember what faction they were on initially, but I know they were changed in the level of faction required because there were so many ways to get indifferent faction without actually factioning. You had sneak, charm, and hide turnins (btw does hide turn ins work here? Basically open a trade window rhen hit hide and turn in as indiff faction). The eq clerics link also confirms charm turnins.

pasi
06-11-2013, 02:52 PM
Is that documented anywhere?

I only ask because that seems to be the standard for making changes. I do agree that a lot of documentation is wrong though if we are going down that route. An extreme example was everlore posts claiming tola used to eat tje corpses of players he killed back in kunark.

Nirgon
06-11-2013, 03:01 PM
Yep.

http://www.adequatulence.com/hartman/vault/pictures/mcmahon.jpg


YES.. SIR!

Aeolwind
06-11-2013, 03:19 PM
show me Aeolwind :)

im sure many people remember same thing I do, i played Velious n quit at Luclin so i kno the era. Here r a few quotes from Alla talking about a coldain merchant that rewards you with one of the armor quests ( druid bp)


http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=5868

Faction
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Reply
#Aug 31 2001 at 12:42 AMRating: Default
Anonymous
Anonymous
You have to have ally status w/ the folks of the city where you want to do the armor quests.

I am ally in Thurg and can get any class's armor quests simply by hailing the appropriate NPC.

Wolana Phoenixfyre, Kelethin-Xegony


RE: How to Raise Faction
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#Mar 04 2002 at 12:10 PMRating: Decent
Lazarus
4 posts
Kill Frost Giant Scouts or Drakkel Dire Wolves in The Great Divide. That will raise your Coldain faction up.

so maybe they changed it within the first couple months which on this server bc of this velious delay are we really gonna have to wait half a year to get the quest factions where it should properly end up? I dont think the basic class armor quests ever required the bosses ( besides sneaking by Tormax as i mentioned) i will show u more proof later but im on my phone at work, where is your info that its on the boss faction ?

One post is from August, the other is After Luclin released & wouldn't apply ever. There are other posts in this thread already that indicate the time line.

Ele
06-11-2013, 03:24 PM
show me Aeolwind :)



so maybe they changed it within the first couple months which on this server bc of this velious delay are we really gonna have to wait half a year to get the quest factions where it should properly end up? I dont think the basic class armor quests ever required the bosses ( besides sneaking by Tormax as i mentioned) i will show u more proof later but im on my phone at work, where is your info that its on the boss faction ?


Yes. Velious is, as Velious was.

Wait for planes upgrades, wait for item upgrades, wait for faction changes, wait for ally level, wait for patches, etc.

The links you posted are both post-faction changes, which is why they support your position.

oldschooltrader
06-11-2013, 03:46 PM
I cant forum quest or bug report on my phone at work to slow

just wanted to see evidence that supported his claims or anyones that the boss faction was required for armor

we kno what faction they eventually turned into but if we have no hard evidence that it was ever different than whose to say what was what?

Ele
06-11-2013, 03:51 PM
I cant forum quest or bug report on my phone at work to slow

just wanted to see evidence that supported his claims or anyones that the boss faction was required for armor

we kno what faction they eventually turned into but if we have no hard evidence that it was ever different than whose to say what was what?

Regarding mobs on +Yelinak faction...

Skyshrine quest giver room, as of March 1, 2001, kos to this poster, but rest of Skyshrine is amiable.
http://web.archive.org/web/20060219124945/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/faction.html?faction=200

Posted @ Thu, Mar 1st 4:14 AM 2001
"I'm amiable to all the residents until "Komawin Fe`Dhar scowls at you, ready to attack" very high in the tower. There is a room with a pyramid in the center and 6 or 8 wyvern to the left and right (well out of aggro range I believe). This beast is one of them. I suspect he and the rest of the room is on Yelinak faction. I did see others still further in that were "amiable" again."

March 13/14, 2013
http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8829&highlight=quest+armor+faction
Thurg armor doesnt have a chain look.
Quest givers on Yelinak faction

You can charm the quest giving mobs in skyshrine, so Yelinak faction isn't absolutely a requirement.



March 26, 2001
http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10815&highlight=quest+armor+faction
Rumor has it, that currently it is possible to have a non-kos enchanter charm the Kael and Skyshrine quest mobs (Green at 55) and walk them out to zone to complete quests, indifferent faction is all that is required.

It should also be noted that any with sneak skill, can complete the quests with only dubious faction (Since they can get back there, and get indifferent with sneak)

First rumor is unchecked, second is fact, and has been done a few times.

Khalim Richelieu
The Pantheon

March 21, 2001
http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8821&highlight=quest+armor+faction
Quest NPC for the Kael cleric armor is Vylleam Vyaeltor (located in room directly behind Tormax). Faction required is indifferent to Tormax (Dwarf heads to Bvellos, or kill Seneschal, Royal Guards, Dain, Velketor, or Yelinek for this). The quest npcs are low 30s in level and can be charmed. Faction needed to get there is Kromzek and Tormax. Components needed for the Quest are: 3 gems (varies with the piece) and the corresponding piece of ancient tarnished plate. Ancient tarnished plate drops in Temple of Veeshan of CoV factioned mobs (there's some right at zone in).


April 23, 2001
http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8903&highlight=quest+armor+faction
The quest givers in Skyshrine were recently changed from Yelniak to CoV faction, you only need to be indifferent to CoV to do the armor quests. Currently the only MOB in skyshrine that is Yelniak faction is Lord Yelniak himself.

pasi
06-11-2013, 04:08 PM
Yes. Velious is, as Velious was.

Wait for planes upgrades, wait for item upgrades, wait for faction changes, wait for ally level, wait for patches, etc.

The links you posted are both post-faction changes, which is why they support your position.

Sticking to Classic isn't necessarily the best route or the route they always take. There's a couple examples we've seen so far that are not classic, but have been implemented to maintain the integrity of the game.

Examples (I agree with all these decisions minus #1):

1) Mobs having a full spell-book at their respective levels.
2) Variance
3) Pet Aggro - this is the big one. On VZTZ, we killed a mob that was basically Avatar of War at level 50 due to chain petting. It doesn't matter if a melee-only mob flurries 1k, 4k, 5k, whatever - if it doesn't regen a ton, you're only spending 200 mana pre-specialization checks to 'heal' a combat round.

Anyhow, I think they'd be absolutely crazy to stick to classic for a few parts of Velious. Donals BP should be gutted immediately on Velious launch. Furthermore, they should not launch with faction-wars possible (even if that's a feature still on live) or else you'll get shit like monks with puppet strings soloing raid bosses.

Good work on the research though for quest NPCs. I'd imagine that we're still going to see this fall into the 'not classic, but abusable' category.

Aeolwind
06-11-2013, 04:11 PM
Thank you Ele! And I have screenshots from around April 2001 that show /con on the armor mobs in Skyshrine.

Sarius
06-11-2013, 04:55 PM
The only quest that required Yelinak faction was King Tormax's head, correct?

Aeolwind
06-11-2013, 04:56 PM
....give me strength.

Ele
06-11-2013, 05:03 PM
....give me strength.

...begins to cast reckless strength.

oldschooltrader
06-11-2013, 05:04 PM
ty Ele and Aeol for researching and responding

as a 16 year old boy obv i remember only what i experienced ;)

im all for classic at start of velious as that is point of our great servet

3 cheers!

pasi
06-11-2013, 05:11 PM
The only quest that required Yelinak faction was King Tormax's head, correct?

Initially, armor quests are on Yelinak faction. This gets changed later on.

However, as mentioned by Ele earlier - if you have access to hide/sneak/charm, you can get to indifferent faction (what is required) by other means.

Aeolwind
06-11-2013, 05:15 PM
1) Mobs having a full spell-book at their respective levels.


Time involved is the reason this one still exists in some places. Fix this (which will get fixed and ruled) or spend time away from expansion work to fix. Classic or die though. I understand.

Sarius
06-11-2013, 05:22 PM
That sounds like a serious time sink. Maybe better to focus on more important things like monk epic graphic... =)

Nirgon
06-11-2013, 05:51 PM
I had to be ally faction to do my pants turn in, confirmed but dont remember the exact day

Razdeline
06-11-2013, 06:57 PM
Time involved is the reason this one still exists in some places. Fix this (which will get fixed and ruled) or spend time away from expansion work to fix. Classic or die though. I understand.

Mobs should have thier full respective spells. It was harder dealing with mobs that actually gated, snared, and rooted. It was completely game changing, fun, and challenging.

The work you guys do is amazing. But this should be higher on the priority list.

maximum
08-16-2013, 01:43 PM
Any updates?

Nirgon
08-16-2013, 02:21 PM
Tell me wut you need.

nilbog
11-26-2013, 05:45 PM
Need.. respawn times of common npcs. I am guessing this zone would be somewhere between 18 - 25 minutes.

aggro/death text of common npcs. If someone has a log from eqmac where they killed in skyshrine, please submit it to : testing.p99@gmail.com

sivax
11-26-2013, 08:46 PM
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/zones.html?zstrat=107#m10083665051648
Dec 14 2001 at 4:48 PM
Once you kill the gargoyle guard in the corner start your timer. All mobs in CY have a 30 minute respawn. If you have enough time keep working your way around the courtyard in a counter clockwise fashion until you reach the trio of wyverns again and stop and wait for corner. Lower level groups will have to stop and wait longer due to down time. Make sure to harmony pull anything you decide to try.

http://eqsacredhonor.tripod.com/eqinfo1_velious_faction.html
Page Last updated: 09/30/02 05:36 PM -0400
METHOD 1: Kill Ziglark
As you zone into Skyshrine from Wakening Lands, go through the gate and then make a right. Go up the stairs. Ziglark spawns in the room on the left after you reach the top of the stairs. Ziglark is on a 22 minute timer. You will know when you are there because he is camped 24 hours a day due to the demand of the key and his short spawn time. WARNING: Bad faction hit for killing him against Claws of Veeshan
They mean Ziglark Whisperwing (http://wiki.project1999.com/Ziglark_Whisperwing)



Only thing I could find with my limited skills hope it helps.

maximum
01-03-2014, 07:13 PM
Need.. respawn times of common npcs. I am guessing this zone would be somewhere between 18 - 25 minutes.

aggro/death text of common npcs. If someone has a log from eqmac where they killed in skyshrine, please submit it to : testing.p99@gmail.com

Bump. Do some research (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5570) while you wait to be unbanned from raiding!

heazels
01-03-2014, 07:47 PM
Respawn time in skyshrine was actually something ridiculous like 45-50 minutes making a zone not worth EXPing in. Im leaning towards 50minutes. And stuff had ridiculous amounts of HP and AC.

fastboy21
01-03-2014, 07:58 PM
That zone looks impressively large (insert penis joke here)

kekeke...he said 'penis'... lolz