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Kagatobs
06-07-2013, 07:16 PM
I just activated my food stamp card. I'd like to thank all of the 2% of the p99 population that actually has a tax paying job for giving me free food now. and a great big thanks to the rest of your tax paying parents for providing me with my now free food. i bought a bunch of candy and soda and taco ingredients and cooking it now. thanks u guys!

K|mm Barely
06-07-2013, 07:36 PM
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Stinkum
06-07-2013, 07:39 PM
What kind of fag makes 28 usernames on a forum per day? Me, lol

Dance, puppet. Dance.

r00t
06-07-2013, 07:40 PM
like marionettes

K|mm Barely
06-07-2013, 07:52 PM
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hatelore
06-07-2013, 07:58 PM
http://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?v=o64Fz-KW1Dk

Kagatobs
06-07-2013, 08:08 PM
don't forget to thank your parents for me STOP my tacos are good and now i'm eating chocolate yay STOP

JonathanHancock
06-07-2013, 10:06 PM
"Someone has to pay for allll my kids. Someone needs to be held accountable, and they need to pay!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjUIE5haVDw

This nasty-ass bitch has FIFTEEN KIDS and is given a free house by some charity. Within a year her kids are arrested for throwing rocks at a 4 year old boy, and attacking the police officers who came to investigate the incident!!!

Alawen
06-07-2013, 10:12 PM
The 4 Types of People on Welfare Nobody Talks About (http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-4-types-people-welfare-nobody-talks-about/)

JonathanHancock
06-07-2013, 10:19 PM
Skip right to the news clips in these vids...........

COMMUNITY SERVICE FOR WELFARE PROPOSED IN MICHIGAN:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opUKyWJ9sSw

in this video you can see Maureen Taylor of the Michigan Welfare Rights Organization call it "TORTUROUS" to ask Welfare Recipients to do any sort of community service in exchange for their funds. She suggests, instead, that Welfare recipients should have fully-paid FREE SCHOOLING in Nursing and trades such as plumbing, electrician etc etc etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5WXGNlXsQw

In THIS video you can see the same bitch arguing that it's ridiculous to require the children of Welfare recipients to attend school, in exchange for continued Welfare support. Children are still allowed to miss TEN DAYS A YEAR, UNEXCUSED, and any days missed with a doctor's note are not counted.

Of course she feels the same way about any drug testing of any kind for Welfare recipients.

LOL. Welfare RIGHTS? WELFARE IS A FUCKING PRIVILEGE, NOT A RIGHT!!!!

JonathanHancock
06-07-2013, 10:26 PM
The 4 Types of People on Welfare Nobody Talks About (http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-4-types-people-welfare-nobody-talks-about/)

LOL obviously you've never even BEEN to the hood, let alone been raised there.

EVERYBODY knows about the shit in that article down there. Also, people who are "in a temporary emergency" don't get Welfare, unless they're a black woman with 5 kids. Instead, they get something "UNEMPLOYMENT," with a maximum of 6 months, and requiring the recipient to actively seek employment opportunities the entire time.

For example, when I was working at Subway 5 years back and making roughly $12,000 a year (BARELY ENOUGH TO LIVE ON MIND YOU --- BARRREEELLLYY if even enough) and I was never even approved for the minimum $100/month in food stamps.

By comparison, I know an individual who hasn't worked a day in her life, has 5 kids, and receives ****$2600/month**** in total Welfare benefits. $900/month in food stamps alone, and $500/month IN CASH. CASH. They literally hand her an envelope with $500 cash in it every month.

NOT A PENNY OF THIS MONEY is accounted for one the Welfare recipient receives it.

Guess what she never DOESN'T have? Weed, alcohol, or Newports.

JonathanHancock
06-07-2013, 10:28 PM
That's over $30,000 per year. More than twice what a 40-hour a week minimum wage worker makes.

And what is a 40-hour a week minimum wage worker told to do when HE/SHE doesn't have enough money? Get a second job, and work an ADDITIONAL 40 hours a week.

Alawen
06-07-2013, 10:35 PM
LOL obviously you've never even BEEN to the hood, let alone been raised there.

EVERYBODY knows about the shit in that article down there. Also, people who are "in a temporary emergency" don't get Welfare, unless they're a black woman with 5 kids. Instead, they get something "UNEMPLOYMENT," with a maximum of 6 months, and requiring the recipient to actively seek employment opportunities the entire time.

For example, when I was working at Subway 5 years back and making roughly $12,000 a year (BARELY ENOUGH TO LIVE ON MIND YOU --- BARRREEELLLYY if even enough) and I was never even approved for the minimum $100/month in food stamps.

By comparison, I know an individual who hasn't worked a day in her life, has 5 kids, and receives ****$2600/month**** in total Welfare benefits. $900/month in food stamps alone, and $500/month IN CASH. CASH. They literally hand her an envelope with $500 cash in it every month.

NOT A PENNY OF THIS MONEY is accounted for one the Welfare recipient receives it.

Guess what she never DOESN'T have? Weed, alcohol, or Newports.

I live in the hood right now. At one point, I was a property manager for a public housing building. I volunteer as a tutor (mostly math and writing) teaching urban youth (mostly black, lots of latino). I interact with people living in poverty every single day.

$900 per month to feed six people works out to $30 per day, or $5 per person. They don't give her an envelope with cash, it goes onto her SNAP card and she can withdraw it like a debit card. The minimum benefit on food assistance is $16, not $100, but most food shelves don't have any requirements.

This is America. We are rich as shit. No one should go hungry, not even if their parents are complete fuckups.

Alawen
06-07-2013, 10:41 PM
That's over $30,000 per year. More than twice what a 40-hour a week minimum wage worker makes.

And what is a 40-hour a week minimum wage worker told to do when HE/SHE doesn't have enough money? Get a second job, and work an ADDITIONAL 40 hours a week.

Full time is 2080 hours a year and the federal minimum wage is $7.25, which is $15,080 annually. That qualifies for assistance. Most Walmart workers qualify for benefits.

JonathanHancock
06-07-2013, 10:43 PM
No, dude.

She's handed and EVELOPE WITH CASH IN IT, EVERY SINGLE MONTH. She has a "payee" who cashes the check and delivers the cash.

I know PLENTY OF WORKING PEOPLE who go hungry. And die in sickness. Keep in mind the Welfare bottom-feeders have full government covered healthcare, whilst the minimum wage worker HAS ****NOTHING****

I've seen people live in pain for 20+ years. I've seen people DIE OF TUBERCULOSIS, HERE IN NY STATE, because they were refused medical assistance to diagnose the problem.

I would know -- I've worked many hospital jobs interacting with patients and I see it all the time. The children of working-class families without insurance being thrown out of the hospital, screaming and crying in pain, whilst the unemployed Welfare Rat with something like the flu is admitted overnight from the ER, at absolutely no cost.

I've seen Welfare rats go to the ER FOR PINK EYE. Would you EVER go to the fucking emergency room because you had pink eye?

JonathanHancock
06-07-2013, 10:44 PM
Full time is 2080 hours a year and the federal minimum wage is $7.25, which is $15,080 annually. That qualifies for assistance. Most Walmart workers qualify for benefits.

1) That's before taxes.
2) Again, I've never qualified for a single dollar in benefits.

Alawen
06-07-2013, 10:49 PM
You obviously need some help filling out the forms. There are people willing to help you. Call and make an appointment.

It sounds like you could use one of those programs to teach you nursing, plumbing, or electrical work.

Kagatob
06-07-2013, 10:53 PM
No, dude.

She's handed and EVELOPE WITH CASH IN IT, EVERY SINGLE MONTH. She has a "payee" who cashes the check and delivers the cash.

I know PLENTY OF WORKING PEOPLE who go hungry. And die in sickness. Keep in mind the Welfare bottom-feeders have full government covered healthcare, whilst the minimum wage worker HAS ****NOTHING****

I've seen people live in pain for 20+ years. I've seen people DIE OF TUBERCULOSIS, HERE IN NY STATE, because they were refused medical assistance to diagnose the problem.

I would know -- I've worked many hospital jobs interacting with patients and I see it all the time. The children of working-class families without insurance being thrown out of the hospital, screaming and crying in pain, whilst the unemployed Welfare Rat with something like the flu is admitted overnight from the ER, at absolutely no cost.

I've seen Welfare rats go to the ER FOR PINK EYE. Would you EVER go to the fucking emergency room because you had pink eye?

Can confirm this exact bullshit happens in MA (live there) and CT (work in a hospital there) as well.

Alawen
06-07-2013, 10:57 PM
I can't respond to the hospital situation. I haven't had health insurance for most of my adult life and do my damnedest to stay healthy. About ten years ago, my girlfriend at the time had a tooth go abscess and her face swelled up like a balloon in the middle of the night. We went to an ER and they didn't do anything. We went to a dentist the next morning at 8:00AM after one of the most miserable nights of my life. I think it cost me $1,500.

Tasslehofp99
06-07-2013, 11:27 PM
Yeah welfare recipients and unemployment recipients should be drug tested and required to seek a job regularly having to prove so. Its crazy, I was getting 345 dollars a week on unemployment in new york, for 13 and a half months. I even got a phat tax return on it, that government cheese.



Lol thanks for voting for change y'all glad obama gave me an extra 7 months lf benefits to get me through last few semesters of college. How nice of him lulz

Tasslehofp99
06-07-2013, 11:29 PM
Best part is they make you go to these job coubselors, who are recovering addicts or felons themselves. Lol

Nirgon
06-08-2013, 12:03 AM
Yeah welfare recipients and unemployment recipients should be drug tested

Duie
06-08-2013, 12:07 AM
I live in the hood right now. At one point, I was a property manager for a public housing building. I volunteer as a tutor (mostly math and writing) teaching urban youth (mostly black, lots of latino). I interact with people living in poverty every single day.

$900 per month to feed six people works out to $30 per day, or $5 per person. They don't give her an envelope with cash, it goes onto her SNAP card and she can withdraw it like a debit card. The minimum benefit on food assistance is $16, not $100, but most food shelves don't have any requirements.

This is America. We are rich as shit. No one should go hungry, not even if their parents are complete fuckups.

See, your argument was sound till "This is America. We are rich as shit. No one should go hungry, not even if their parents are complete fuckups". Hunger is a great motivator and as I have found in my own life in my past, It is a hell of a lot better to wash dishes at some restaurant for minimum wage than to starve to death ....

Barkingturtle
06-08-2013, 12:17 AM
Hunger is a great motivator and as I have found in my own life in my past, It is a hell of a lot better to wash dishes at some restaurant for minimum wage than to starve to death ....

That time you starved to death sounds like hell.


Seriously though, I like your plan. Hungry kids should be forced into menial labor like washing dishes because and that way they'll be motivated to eat. The fact their poor nutrition lends itself to the developmental stagnance most often seen in dishwashers is just a happy circumstance.

Kagatob
06-08-2013, 12:20 AM
See, your argument was sound till "This is America. We are rich as shit. No one should go hungry, not even if their parents are complete fuckups". Hunger is a great motivator and as I have found in my own life in my past, It is a hell of a lot better to wash dishes at some restaurant for minimum wage than to starve to death ....

That time you starved to death sounds like hell.


Seriously though, I like your plan. Hungry kids should be forced into menial labor like washing dishes because and that way they'll be motivated to eat. The fact their poor nutrition lends itself to the developmental stagnance most often seen in dishwashers is just a happy circumstance.

Better regulation of the welfare system would be supreme. It'd keep the able bodies adults at work and the starving kids with the support they need. It's a workable system that just happens to be damaged, it can be repaired.

Barkingturtle
06-08-2013, 12:21 AM
If people don't want to work feed them to hungry kids imo.

Kagatobs
06-08-2013, 12:55 AM
System isn't really broken for I don't have to work for my food when I buy steak with my food stamp card.

You mad broz

Jelly

RhondaWellingsworth
06-08-2013, 01:02 AM
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Careful Harry, dont piss off Kimm, he'll come beat your ass in real life

Daldolma
06-08-2013, 01:39 AM
Lol he's made the threat already, and trust me, I'm not scared in the least after seeing that kid's pictures

implies you would be scared of anonymous internet threats on elfjournal absent sufficient evidence to dispel fear

Alawen
06-08-2013, 01:48 AM
See, your argument was sound till "This is America. We are rich as shit. No one should go hungry, not even if their parents are complete fuckups". Hunger is a great motivator and as I have found in my own life in my past, It is a hell of a lot better to wash dishes at some restaurant for minimum wage than to starve to death ....

I think you're not clear on how development works. If someone is stressed, especially in the womb or as an infant, they are fucked for life. Not only that, if it's a woman, their kids are fucked, too. What looks like lazy is frequently brain damage.

K|mm Barely
06-08-2013, 01:49 AM
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JurisDictum
06-08-2013, 01:55 AM
Yeah welfare recipients and unemployment recipients should be drug tested and required to seek a job regularly having to prove so. Its crazy, I was getting 345 dollars a week on unemployment in new york, for 13 and a half months. I even got a phat tax return on it, that government cheese.



Yea it will be so much better to get these drug addicts desperate and on the street. Its not like that's going to just create a crime/prison problem that costs way more then the $200 (max) a month in food.
Fuckin republicans... "whose going to pay for it?" You're paying for it right now jackass. That hardline bullshit has always been much less cost effective then just then just throwing a few nickles at the problem in the first place.
90% of the budget is not food stamps or foreign aid. Its Medicare, Medicaid, and the Military. Act accordingly.

Alawen
06-08-2013, 02:02 AM
Yea it will be so much better to get these drug addicts desperate and on the street. Its not like that's going to just create a crime/prison problem that costs way more then the $200 (max) a month in food.
Fuckin republicans... "whose going to pay for it?" You're paying for it right now jackass. That hardline bullshit has always been much less cost effective then just then just throwing a few nickles at the problem in the first place.
90% of the budget is not food stamps or foreign aid. Its Medicare, Medicaid, and the Military. Act accordingly.

Strongly agree with this. American society has this strong vindictive streak that wants to punish people even if it costs a shitload of time and money for everyone involved. I don't care about justice; I'm mostly a pragmatist.

JonathanHancock
06-08-2013, 02:08 AM
System isn't really broken for I don't have to work for my food when I buy steak with my food stamp card.

You mad broz

Jelly

And this is YET ANOTHER THING that "Maureen Taylor" of the Michigan Welfare Rights Organization is against; ANY KIND OF FOOD-RELATED REGULATION OF **FOOD** STAMPS.

But...that's corporate-owned America for you, and that's why it'll never change. Around here all the McDonald's and Burger King's accept BENEFIT cards, yet the FAR healthier Subway doesn't.

Go figure, huh?

It's all intended to kill off feeders at as young an age as possible.

JonathanHancock
06-08-2013, 02:10 AM
Perhaps I should say "now HAVE BEEN APPROVED" not neccessarily "now ACEEPT" the cards

Daldolma
06-08-2013, 02:17 AM
being at the bottom of the barrel in any society fucking sucks and always has

try really hard not to be

Alawen
06-08-2013, 03:52 AM
Restaurants cannot take SNAP cards. Subway is not healthy food.

Kagatobs
06-08-2013, 03:54 AM
Its true subway is not healthy food. They say eat fresh, not healthy. Big macs are fresh too!!!

Tasslehofp99
06-08-2013, 04:36 AM
Restaurants cannot take SNAP cards. Subway is not healthy food.

Nothing stopping recipients from taking cash off their card to buy drugs, alcohol, non essentials.
Government has no obligation to provide for such delinquents. They can rot on the street for all I care, and if they decide to turn to a life of crime instead of using the many resources available to help them well I've always got my right to bear arms to fall back on. I'm poor and I work for my food. I was on unemployment and boy did it feel shitty, almost as if I was sub human. Sure free money is awesome but so is cashing your check at the end of the week. Complain that minimum wages aren't enough to live off of? Go to college, us government pays for you to get a bachelors degree through grants which I'm sure 90% of of welfare recipients are more than eligible for.




Vote for change and that's what you're left with in yout pocket.

Tasslehofp99
06-08-2013, 05:33 AM
Unemployment isn't free money. You pay into it.

You can't go on unemployment without having been employed.

Yeah I was just comparing how it felt to being on welfare mainly.


Accepting governmemt benefits for welfare probably feels just as degrading as it felt when I was on unemployment. Either way its a broken system full of scammers who ARE lazy, if you want to call it mental illness go ahead but I don't buy it.

There is rarely an excuse for being too poor to survive in america, I've found.
If you work hard and spend your money intelligently then even minimuk wage is enough to survive on. Sure, you may need to get a 2nd job but that's what happens when you aren't educated and don't care enough to take advantage of OTHER government benefits which provide job training and money for your first bachelors degree.

Shit I slaved away delivering to mcdonalds for 3 years just to get a car so I can drive to college classes paid for by the US government so I wouldn't end up like these lazy fucks on welfare that I used to ring up as a 16 yr old grocery store cashier.



Get a fucking job or rot in poverty. The choice for me was simple as fuck.

Shilver
06-08-2013, 05:39 AM
America, Land of the Free..living and being supported by people who actually work. Gotta love it! I should apply for a food stamp, I'm an American, and I'm a poor college student. I'd probably get accepted, might as well take advantage while we still have a working government instead of a world power!

Kagatobs
06-08-2013, 06:46 AM
Where do you think the funding for americas prisons come from? You all cry about my food stamp rights but you don't figure the rapists and murders who are also eating off of your hard earned tax money do you morons?

Don't worry, they're being "rehabilitated." HA HA HA

Please bring back colosseum to provide entertainment and other means of funding for these "rehabilitation institutes" while trimming down the ever growing prison population.

These prison inmates can get just about everything you get on the outside and none of them have to work for it. Including pussy.

Now go back to your meaningless slave wage jobs and take pride in the fact that the money the IRS steals from you and gives to my food stamp card and prison inmates are going to the good cause of mine and their empty stomachs so we can lay down all day and watch tv.

Duie
06-08-2013, 08:44 AM
Unemployment isn't free money. You pay into it.

You can't go on unemployment without having been employed.

http://www.thetruthaboutinsurance.com/who-pays-for-unemployment-insurance/



just to clear things up about who really pays for unenployment

Kagatobs
06-08-2013, 08:47 AM
Nobody is going to click on your stupid links. If you can't express what you're feeling on the subject yourself then you are as useless as a woman.

Duie
06-08-2013, 09:02 AM
Nobody is going to click on your stupid links. If you can't express what you're feeling on the subject yourself then you are as useless as a woman.

okie then

Insurance Q&A: “Who pays for unemployment insurance?”

There seems to be a bit of uncertainty about who pays for unemployment insurance.

One of the main misconceptions floating around out there is that employees pay for the unemployment insurance benefits out of their pocket (or paycheck).

You may have heard someone who is unemployed make the statement, “I better get unemployment, I have been paying into it for XYZ years while I was working.”

That statement couldn’t be further from the truth. Individual employees do not contribute a dime to the American unemployment insurance fund.

The Reality

The reality is; your employer contributes to the unemployment insurance fund. In fact, businesses in the United States contribute money to the fund on a state and federal level…double whammy!

And a company’s payroll determines how much money they contribute. The more money a business pays to its employees, the more money they have to contribute to the unemployment fund and vice versa

Kagatobs
06-08-2013, 09:44 AM
Problem with unemployment is that the employer lies about the reason for dismissal about 99.9% of the time in order to avoid paying out benefits. Just about every single unemployment case goes through the appeals process through a telephone conference with a hearing official and the majority of the time benefits are approved due to the corrupt nature of corporations and avoidance of a civil lawsuit. The kicker is the fact that most citizens are completely stupid and lazy thus decide not to fight for what they deserve. Hence corporate america is winning.