Is Suicide a Courageous Act?

[Lron]

My friend said it was cowardly and i disagreed. It is definitely not an act of cowardice, but it is courageous? Is it courage to face the unknown with death because you cant bare the known of existence?

[Duie]

Possibly you could try it and then tell us your findings?

[Thulack]

I think that it's taking the easy way out. Coming from someone who has thought about doing it that it really feels like your just giving up and want to escape the world. There is nothing on the otherside and it's just a matter of if your ready to end it or not and disappoint the people that love you. I don't find anything courageous about it.

[r00t]

Possibly you could try it and then tell us your findings?

words <-- my mouth

[Alawen]

Yes, very courageous. Only a very brave individual such as Lron would dare such a bold move. You should do it and earn all of our ultimate respect. As an added bonus, you would upset Naez who is the current favorite.

[Duie]

For a serious answer sir. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. they are more unknowns in 24 hours of ones life than to end it. True , we don't know what death brings but nor do we know what life will throw at you. To Me , Sticking around to find out the variables takes more courage than to not

[Clark]

http://s23.postimg.org/ve1vpv0y3/A7_I2_Hi_CIAAww59.jpg

[Barkingturtle]

If it wasn't courageous they couldn't call you an hero.

[Daldolma]

i suppose it is courageous to knowingly and willfully condemn yourself to an eternity of hellfire

[Grahm]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3ZA-_kWGGc

[Kagatob]

Thread needs context.

Soldier/marine going on a one way mission to accomplish a task, particularly ones that involve them actively ending their own lives in the process (detonating a bomb) would be considered a most courageous act. The same would be said about someone diving on top of a grenade tossed into a foxhole. You could even say the same about kamikaze pilots.

The Sandy Hook shooter who put a bullet in his own head when they had him cornered? Hitler? Cowards.

[Barkingturtle]

The Sandy Hook shooter who put a bullet in his own head when they had him cornered? Hitler? Cowards.

Each of those dudes put an end to horrific killing-sprees in a single shot.

I imagine all you've put an end to today with a lone shot is the virginity of another body-pillow, you weeaboo perv. Some hero.

[Kagatobs]

FUCK YOU BARKING TURTLE. I'll beat you with my weeaboo stick and slay you like the pathetic turtle you are.

[Flamewraith]

I wish I could temporarily die just to view whats on the other side. I don't hate life so I would like to get back to it and continue living until my time is up :p I'm just incredibly curious about what's on the other side. Logic tells me that there is absolutely nothing, as there is no proof of anything else, but never the less I wanna know!

[Daldolma]

I wish I could temporarily die just to view whats on the other side. I don't hate life so I would like to get back to it and continue living until my time is up :p I'm just incredibly curious about what's on the other side. Logic tells me that there is absolutely nothing, as there is no proof of anything else, but never the less I wanna know!

pls see king james bible, answer is known

[Flamewraith]

pls see king james bible, answer is known

Sorry man I don't buy into any bible. Too much corruption and human influence to be a trusted source on the afterlife.

[phacemeltar]

courage -

noun
1.
the quality of mind or spirit that enables a person to face difficulty, danger, pain, etc., without fear; bravery.
2.
Obsolete. the heart as the source of emotion.
Idioms
3.
have the courage of one's convictions, to act in accordance with one's beliefs, especially in spite of criticism.


That being said.. do i think suicide is COWARDLY? Yes. Try to remember that others will be affected by your death: family, friends, the people who find your body, the people who read about your death and come up with reasons as to why?
Eliminate those factors and i think you will be ok. But just remember, those last seconds before you die.. whether there is a heaven/hell or not.. will be the last thing you ever remember. So try to make sure you wont regret it when ur bathtub is filling with your blood.

[Kagatob]

Each of those dudes put an end to horrific killing-sprees in a single shot.

Both of those killing-sprees were over before either of them committed suicide.
Also not virgin, haven't been for 11 years and I don't own a dakimakura.
C- for effort.

[Daldolma]

Both of those killing-sprees were over before either of them committed suicide.
Also not virgin, haven't been for 11 years and I don't own a dakimakura.
C- for effort.

will never forgive for making dakimakura a part of my google history

[Kagatob]

will never forgive for making dakimakura a part of my google history

I know more girls who own them then guys. :3

[Daldolma]

weird

[Kagatobs]

Although if I were to commit suicide it would be best done after humping my body pillow hard and stringing my neck up to cut the oxygen supply off to my brain and produce the most epic orgasm known to humanity that leaves me hanging in the nude to show my muppets baby tattoo and the lack of manhood there is which caused my virginity in the first place.

[Cecily]

I don't think it's brave or cowardly. It's a choice, with consequences, just like every other choice you'll make in life. What's unfortunate is the people close to you are the ones that suffer the consequences more than you do.

[Kagatobs]

I was going to say something insulting but your fucking panda bear makes me think good thoughts. Fuck you

[Reapin]

Suicide to escape untreatable physical pain and suffering - Not brave, but understandable

Suicide so others may live - Brave but sometimes stupid

Suicide from erotic self asphyxiation - Stupid and not brave

Suicide because you got dumped by someone - Stupid and not brave

Suicide to take out many of your enemies - Can be brave but it's often fueled by ignorance and zealotry, so most of the time it is more stupid than brave

Suicide to avoid punishment for a crime you have committed - Very brave, I encourage this one


As you can see nothing is black and white, even suicide.

[Kagatobs]

Suicide to escape untreatable physical pain and suffering - Not brave, but understandable



I feel bad for MS patients. That's just one screwed up disease.

[Reapin]

If you do a search for suicide notes on google it appears the stupid belief in an afterlife causes most suicides. People believe they are going somewhere better.

I guess it is better they die then stay here spreading their death cult beliefs to others...

http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f10/130648d1266768245-suicide-notes-marie-moore-note.jpg

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/61046000/jpg/_61046760_letter3.jpg

http://www.irintech.com/x1/images/jean/dc_madam_suicide_vote.jpg

Deciphered from illegible notes:

"To all my friends and loved ones, I ask of you one last favor: don’t let my spirit die. Remember me for the laughs and the good times, the thrills we all had together. I hope I made a place in all your hearts and touched each and every one of you in a special way. I have chosen to die, but I haven’t chosen to be forgotten. I must find a new world, a world of peace and happiness. I want you all to know I am not afraid to die, only to quit living. I’ll miss you.”


“If I can’t see my daughter here, I will see her from above…”

“What is a few short years to live in hell. That is all I get around here. No more I will pay the bills. No more I will drive the car. No more I will wash, iron & mend any clothes. No more I will have to eat the leftover articles that was cooked the day before. This is no way to live. Either is it any way to die. Her grub I can not eat. At night I can not sleep. I married the wrong nag-nag-nag and I lost my life.”

“”Football season Is over. No more games. No more bombs. No more walking. No more fun. No more swimming. 67. That is 17 years past 50. 17 more than I needed or wanted. Boring. I am always bitchy. No fun for anybody. 67. You are getting greedy. Act your old age. Relax, this won’t hurt.”

[Kagatobs]

I find it hard to believe that what we experience in the now is all there is. Some would say energy cannot be destroyed and when it comes down to it, the "observer" that is "you" in regards to the human brain is accepted as nothing but pure "energy." If energy cannot be destroyed where does it go? Although perhaps that may only pertain to this particular universe and the laws of physics it abides.

Memory itself is a giant mystery. Think about it. Your brain can hold an infinite amount of information with absolutely no limit. Imagine being able to harness such an essence which we have yet to do.

[Reapin]

I have thought about it, and I have come to the conclusion that the most likely scenario is reincarnation but not necessarily as a human being. Your consciousness is merely how your brain interprets the data from all of your senses. Your brain can be "flawed" and make things like depression and suicide more likely, just like having a flaw which makes you more likely to have heart problems or diabetes. The energy is not flawed but the organic material the energy uses to initiate the chemical reaction that is you can be corrupted or flawed by environmental factors or poor genes / dna information.

You have Energy that powers you

You have a body that is hardware

You have genes / dna that are the software

Everything (on this planet) is water and energy and this is probably true with all life with some variations just like all stars are basically the same but they have differences as well.

The energy in powering you is not exclusive to you. It has powered a bird, a blade of grass, a fish etc. Everything is connected this way. You are not special nor unique. No one is. This is a narcissistic human belief.

[Duie]

Thread needs context.

Soldier/marine going on a one way mission to accomplish a task, particularly ones that involve them actively ending their own lives in the process (detonating a bomb) would be considered a most courageous act. The same would be said about someone diving on top of a grenade tossed into a foxhole. You could even say the same about kamikaze pilots.

The Sandy Hook shooter who put a bullet in his own head when they had him cornered? Hitler? Cowards.

HE WINS!! This one is over folks :)

[myriverse]

I think that it's taking the easy way out. Coming from someone who has thought about doing it that it really feels like your just giving up and want to escape the world. There is nothing on the otherside and it's just a matter of if your ready to end it or not and disappoint the people that love you. I don't find anything courageous about it.
This. But sometimes cowardice is the only option.

[Kagatobs]

You are not special nor unique. No one is. This is a narcissistic human belief.


You continue to believe that and i'll believe the opposite and we'll see who lives a happier life.

[Knuckle]

Best troll of the week

[Kagatobs]

Fucking hell - with the exception that is twins (which has proven to be a defect in the process anyway) we are all incredibly unique and none of us ever think, act, look, or feel the same as someone else (even twins). Yes, it's due to different experiences that mold us into who we are but to create the everlasting excuse that we are all dust in the wind that has absolutely no effect on one another is just ignorance.

If we destroy the world we live on, then we kill the consciousness that is and therefore we don't deserve it.

Meaning of life might be summed up into one word, love. Take away love and watch how the infant doesn't survive and seeps into a destructive depression that releases chemicals that literally destroy our tissues. A good example of that would be how stress works on the body. Sure it's intention is the fight or flight purpose but that same chemical that is released will inevitably destroy your physical being.

[Kagatobs]

Best troll of the week

You suck at posting on forums. Send your statements through texts or twitter with the rest of the sheep of society.

[Reapin]

You continue to believe that and i'll believe the opposite and we'll see who lives a happier life.

It all depends on what makes you happy doesn't it?

I find happiness in learning about how things work and helping others do the same.

If you live a self absorbed existence then living the way you do will make you happy. Ironically most people live like you do so you prove my point that indeed you are not unique or special.

[Reapin]

If we destroy the world we live on, then we kill the consciousness that is and therefore we don't deserve it.




"Deserve" has nothing to do with it.

[Kagatobs]

It all depends on what makes you happy doesn't it?

I find happiness in learning about how things work and helping others do the same.

If you live a self absorbed existence then living the way you do will make you happy. Ironically most people live like you do so you prove my point that indeed you are not unique or special.

You're the one who stated no one is unique or special. Talk about self absorbed.

[Kagatobs]

"Deserve" has nothing to do with it.

You're missing the point but I expect nothing less from the P99 community.

[Reapin]

Sorry to burst your ego.

[Kagatobs]

You didn't. Like I said, I expect nothing less from the P99 community. No surprises here.

[Reapin]

Fucking hell - with the exception that is twins (which has proven to be a defect in the process anyway) we are all incredibly unique and none of us ever think, act, look, or feel the same as someone else (even twins).

If this were true we would not have organized religion, or a society or any other organization. Interpretations are somewhat unique, that's how we get new ideas, but aside from the occasional biological anomaly the highest level of uniqueness most people achieve is the ability to read their own handwriting.

You are programed. Programed by your genetics then programed by the society you are born into.

[Kagatobs]

I have thought about it, and I have come to the conclusion that the most likely scenario is reincarnation but not necessarily as a human being.

word

[Kagatobs]

If this were true we would not have organized religion, or a society or any other organization. Interpretations are somewhat unique, that's how we get new ideas, but aside from the occasional biological anomaly the highest level of uniqueness most people achieve is the ability to read their own handwriting.

You are programed. Programed by your genetics then programed by the society you are born into.

You're just being vague in terms of how groupings of individuals behave. I'm talking about the individual itself.

[Kagatobs]

Besides, if were were straight up programmed by the society we are born into then there would be no clashing between individuals or societies would there?

[Kagatobs]

we*

[Reapin]

Individual self does not matter. An individual of any species would not last long anywhere.

[Kagatobs]

There's something wrong with your brain.

[Reapin]

Besides, if were were straight up programmed by the society we are born into then there would be no clashing between individuals or societies would there?

Humans have not fully adapted to living i large communities. We are still tribal creatures best suited to living in small groups. The way we live now is really a new phenomenon.

In order to accept this you must acknowledge the earth is not 6000 years old.

[Kagatobs]

Perhaps it's your own way of dealing with your own existence. If it makes you feel better, then you are the same as everyone else in every detail and aspect. Now you can sleep.

[Reapin]

There's something wrong with your brain.

Nah, you just need to get over yourself and have some humility.

[Kagatobs]

But regardless if you believe me or not, Reapin, you are special, unique, and can contribute your thought patterns in a fashion to create new abstracts that no one has every thought of or realized ever before. Yes, even you Reapin. I love you.

I said, I love you, Reapin.

How does that make you feel?

[Kagatobs]

Nah, you just need to get over yourself and have some humility.

Now you're coming at me like the majority of the population comes at hasbinbad. I'm sure you won't understand that either.

[Reapin]

Perhaps it's your own way of dealing with your own existence. If it makes you feel better, then you are the same as everyone else in every detail and aspect. Now you can sleep.

Obviously we are not clones. There is a range of physical attributes that humans can attain (due to our software).

[Reapin]

Now you're coming at me like the majority of the population comes at hasbinbad. I'm sure you won't understand that either.

Because I am not unique. :D

[Kagatobs]

Whatever helps you sleep at night. I am just as stoopid as everyone else, we are nothing special, dust in the wind.

[Lojik]

Because I am not unique. :D

There was a great quote in one Jboots giveaway thread, something like "Just remember that you are perfectly unique, just like everyone else."

[Kagatobs]

Because I am not unique. :D

Now I feel sorry for you. And I still love you, Reapin.

I love you.

Feel it. Acknowledge it. Address it. You know you want to.

[Kagatobs]

That's why americans seem to prosper a lot quicker than the rest of the world. We are grown up in a society that educates the individual american that we are all special and unique in our own ways while in other countries tell their children that no one is special or unique.

[Kagatobs]

America was always based on the success of the individual. It's no mystery why the US seems to dominate all opposition.

[Reapin]

Civilizations all fall, the US will be no exception.

[Kagatobs]

Till then, US dominates.

[Kagatobs]

I love you, Reapin.

Feel it.

[Flamewraith]

Kag you come off as a jackass in this, reapin never lost his temper in any of his posts, but in everyone of of your you start it with some variation of "no you're wrong because I'm right and I know it." Not very graceful of you.

[Malice_Mizer]

It's pretty objectively cowardly.

Yes, yes, you're "facing the unknown" and all of that. But there's also a definitive "known" right there in front of you (life), that you're incapable of dealing with.

If you set off for an unknown because you're unable to cope with and endure the known, then that is certainly not courageous.

[hatelore]

There's exceptions to everything. Is it selfish? Yes. But I can say as a parent, if I lost one of my kids it would be hard to go on. I see no heroism in it though.

[Reapin]

Learning is painful for some. They tend to flail about like a fish out of water when contemplating things that disturb them or threaten the foundation of their currently held beliefs.

[Ahldagor]

Thread needs context.

Soldier/marine going on a one way mission to accomplish a task, particularly ones that involve them actively ending their own lives in the process (detonating a bomb) would be considered a most courageous act. The same would be said about someone diving on top of a grenade tossed into a foxhole. You could even say the same about kamikaze pilots.


are you michael bay?

[Alawen]

Now you're coming at me like the majority of the population comes at hasbinbad. I'm sure you won't understand that either.

I consider my relationship with Hasbinbad personal and not at all part of a mob mentality. He's actually one of my favorite posters.

That doesn't mean he's not full of shit, though.

[Lron]

Aalawen and hasbinintorecievinganalsincegradeschool are lovers?

[Eliseus]

Kag you come off as a jackass in this, reapin never lost his temper in any of his posts, but in everyone of of your you start it with some variation of "no you're wrong because I'm right and I know it." Not very graceful of you.

I'm glad other people notice how dumb kag really is.

[Barkingturtle]

I disagree. Kag has never been better than in this thread.

[Alawen]

Aalawen and hasbinintorecievinganalsincegradeschool are lovers?

Not yet, but it's possible since that trauma with those fat jiggly women gifs turned me gay. Do you think he's a bottom? I'm looking for a bottom with a tight hole and the constitution for daily buggery.

[Rhambuk]

I really don't think it matters how people view it. The ones committing suicide are the only ones involved, obviously family and friends are affected, and I don't think they give a damn what anyone thinks of them....

[hatelore]

Wut is a bottom?

[Kagatob]

Wut is a bottom?

Parents still think sheltering their children will keep them from acting out in highschool huh?