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Reapin
06-10-2013, 07:06 AM
Physicists have devised a new experiment to test if the universe is a computer.

A philosophical thought experiment has long held that it is more likely than not that we're living inside a machine.

The theory basically goes that any civilisation which could evolve to a 'post-human' stage would almost certainly learn to run simulations on the scale of a universe. And that given the size of reality - billions of worlds, around billions of suns - it is fairly likely that if this is possible, it has already happened.

And if it has? Well, then the statistical likelihood is that we're located somewhere in that chain of simulations within simulations. The alternative - that we're the first civilisation, in the first universe - is virtually (no pun intended) absurd.

And it's not just theory. We previously reported that researchers at the University of Bonn in Germany had found evidence the Matrix was less than fiction. That story was by far our most popular of the year - indicating it's something about which you lot have wondered too.

Now another team have devised an actual test to see if this theory holds any hope of being proven.

Professor Martin Savage at the University of Washington says while our own computer simulations can only model a universe on the scale of an atom's nucleus, there are already "signatures of resource constraints" which could tell us if larger models are possible.

This is where it gets complex.

Essentially, Savage said that computers used to build simulations perform "lattice quantum chromodynamics calculations" - dividing space into a four-dimensional grid. Doing so allows researchers to examine the force which binds subatomic particles together into neutrons and protons - but it also allows things to happen in the simulation, including the development of complex physical "signatures", that researchers don't program directly into the computer. In looking for these signatures, such as limitations on the energy held by cosmic rays, they hope to find similarities within our own universe.

And if such signatures do appear in both? Boot up, baby. We're inside a computer. (Maybe).

"If you make the simulations big enough, something like our universe should emerge," Savage told the University of Washington news service.

Zohreh Davoudi, one of Savage's students, goes further:

"The question is, 'Can you communicate with those other universes if they are running on the same platform?," she said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/12/physicists-universe-simulation-test-university-of-washington-matrix_n_2282745.html

Doors
06-10-2013, 07:15 AM
Jesus was actually white.

gotrocks
06-10-2013, 07:22 AM
I'd say it's pretty damn likely that even if we did happen to be in a computer simulation (or the evolved equivalent) that we would never even fucking know it unless we broke/cheated it.

In which case we'd probably all die, so...

uh, yoso?

finalgrunt
06-10-2013, 07:24 AM
Can we multibox in our universe?

Visual
06-10-2013, 07:28 AM
computer is simulating me flipping you off right now

r00t
06-10-2013, 03:57 PM
I think everyone would realize we are living in a computer generated reality when they found out that atoms send and recieve 'packets' (for what reason I forget) with 'bits' of electrons that verify themselves by a crc checksum of the data that is the same as an algorithm written by some computer scientist in the 1960's. You look it up cuz I'm lazy.

Karkona
06-10-2013, 05:33 PM
Lets just pray the galactic programmers created an afterlife program for us.

this user was banned
06-10-2013, 05:42 PM
jesus was a sand ******

Reapin
06-10-2013, 06:03 PM
Jesus was probably a persecuted homosexual.

pharmakos
06-10-2013, 06:32 PM
wave-particle duality would only exist in a computer simulation imo

Reapin
06-10-2013, 09:44 PM
wave-particle duality would only exist in a computer simulation imo

How did you come to such a hypothesis?

pharmakos
06-11-2013, 01:20 PM
it appears that matter exists only as a field of possibilities until someone starts to pay close attention to it. seems to me like a means to save memory space. why waste time drawing all those particles if no one's even looking? much more efficient to just compress them to a wave.

sorta like how my torrents take up less space before i unzip them.

Reapin
06-11-2013, 05:48 PM
Very interesting. I never thought of it like that. Think I will go rape pillage and burn some shit. I will behave better after the next reboot or system update.

Hasbinbad
06-11-2013, 06:04 PM
The NSA is now watching this thread.

Reapin
06-11-2013, 06:10 PM
So America has decided that because a former President ignored intelligence that Terrorist were going to attack us using planes, we must throw out the bill of rights and spy on everyone, spend trillions of dollars as our country becomes less competitive every passing day due to the failure to invest in our citizens. Not only that, we supposedly send our sons and daughters to go die "For our freedom" then turn around and shrug it off when the government arms the police like an invading force and spies on us like something out of 1984. All this and what has it gotten us? It stopped 1 terror attack. We have had 23 incidents since 9/11. Do none of you think it is all just used as a justification to kill this country? The continuing evolution to a completely fascist nation? Are you too scared to say?

Ranlron swiftsong
06-11-2013, 07:16 PM
Reapin:George carlin once said:We don't really have rights if they can be taken away, we only have the illusion of having rights.When rights can be taken away, then they become a commodity rather than rights, and we seem to have less and less rights.

Reapin
06-11-2013, 07:25 PM
At some point you have to say enough is enough. Sheep in this country sure as hell wont. A bunch of chicken shit cowards live in America.

r00t
06-11-2013, 07:45 PM
im too lazy

Dandal McDeadly
06-11-2013, 07:48 PM
dividing space into a four-dimensional grid.
Lol when I read that it made me think of the time cube. (http://www.timecube.com/)

r00t
06-11-2013, 07:54 PM
Lol when I read that it made me think of the time cube. (http://www.timecube.com/)

Mathmeticians generally represent 3 dimensions with 4D algebra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternion) (seen also in video games) because of gimbal lock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimbal_lock).

finalgrunt
06-12-2013, 11:19 AM
Mathmeticians generally represent 3 dimensions with 4D algebra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternion) (seen also in video games) because of gimbal lock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimbal_lock).

Hmm I'd say Quaternions represent 3D operations with 4D matrixes, but they don't "represent" 3D vectors. You can avoid gimbal lock with 3D rotation matrices too.