View Full Version : Kill steal?
Space
06-13-2013, 09:59 PM
So I log on where I'm camped right at raster. He's up and nothing around him is dead. I start clearing mino's and a few seconds later, Oooeygooey shows up and heads straight to raster and kills him, while I'm yelling "NOOOOO". I'd been camping for a week straight btw, seen about 50ph's.
Anyways, turns out that someone had said on ooc that raster was up, and Oooey had mentioned that she was going to get him. Well i logged on and started clearing BEFORE ooey got there, but after that was said in ooc.
Oooey claims she tried to kill raster, but got too much aggro and FD'd and /q'd out before I got there.
Was this a kill steal?
I feel like at the very least it was not terribly honorable of Oooey to just run up and kill him. I didn't try to contest her why she was killing, just tried to talk her out of it like a normal, decent human being.
Rhuma7
06-13-2013, 10:35 PM
So I log on where I'm camped right at raster. He's up and nothing around him is dead. I start clearing mino's and a few seconds later, Oooeygooey shows up and heads straight to raster and kills him, while I'm yelling "NOOOOO". I'd been camping for a week straight btw, seen about 50ph's.
Anyways, turns out that someone had said on ooc that raster was up, and Oooey had mentioned that she was going to get him. Well i logged on and started clearing BEFORE ooey got there, but after that was said in ooc.
Oooey claims she tried to kill raster, but got too much aggro and FD'd and /q'd out before I got there.
Was this a kill steal?
I feel like at the very least it was not terribly honorable of Oooey to just run up and kill him. I didn't try to contest her why she was killing, just tried to talk her out of it like a normal, decent human being.
Logging /quit is an abandonment of a camp and if Oooey deserved the idol she would know how to play a fucking monk and split the camp.
You got that idol stolen, sir.
Rhuma7
06-13-2013, 10:37 PM
Logging /quit is an abandonment of a camp and if Oooey deserved the idol she would know how to play a fucking monk and split the camp.
You got that idol stolen, sir.
To add, there is zero reason to /q at the raster camp to lose aggro.
Space
06-13-2013, 10:54 PM
So should I petition or something? I feel like I just wasted 30+ hours.
India
06-13-2013, 11:00 PM
petition it!
a) FD bug occurs, last night I ate a death in LGuk because as soon as i'd pop out of FD a wizard would come straight to me, and i was being dumb and trying to fd little by little to an exit instead of /q'ing
b) this is everquest, gonna have bad luck on spawns, which it sounds like you did. Seems a bit dramatic to say you wasted all your time. Were you IN the camp when it got pulled? You got leapfrogged, i dont know if id call that a kill steal. That's more bad manners than illegal
Space
06-13-2013, 11:09 PM
"Were you IN the camp when it got pulled?"
Yeah, i was killing 4 minos right outside raster room. Raster was next after them. Ooog saw this and ran right past me to him.
Racun
06-13-2013, 11:22 PM
I am Oooeygooey.
I don't generally post in RnF but seeing as this thread is accusing me directly I figure I should respond.
I was already making my way down to Raster to check if he was camped when the announcement was made that he had spawned, so I said in OOC that I was on my way down to kill him and proceeded to run down there as fast as I could, dragging a decent size train with me.
Once I reached the room outside Raster I feigned and /q'd to drop agro. There was no-one in the room or Raster's room at the time.
Upon logging back in (~2 mins later) I saw a necro fighting 3-4 Minotaurs in the room outside Raster's room, so I ran in there, engaged him and killed him.
As per the poster above - it wasn't a kill steal, and it may be perceived as being bad mannered, but it was a race to a mob that had been announced in OOC and you had no claim to, especially given you weren't actually in Raster's room and hadn't engaged him.
It is also very dramatic to claim that you have wasted 30 hours when in reality you wasted 2 minutes at most.
Space
06-13-2013, 11:24 PM
You think i was just killing minos for fun at lvl 54?
maverixdamighty
06-13-2013, 11:25 PM
I am Oooeygooey.
I don't generally post in RnF but seeing as this thread is accusing me directly I figure I should respond.
I was already making my way down to Raster to check if he was camped when the announcement was made that he had spawned, so I said in OOC that I was on my way down to kill him and proceeded to run down there as fast as I could, dragging a decent size train with me.
Once I reached the room outside Raster I feigned and /q'd to drop agro. There was no-one in the room or Raster's room at the time.
Upon logging back in (~2 mins later) I saw a necro fighting 3-4 Minotaurs in the room outside Raster's room, so I ran in there, engaged him and killed him.
As per the poster above - it wasn't a kill steal, and it may be perceived as being bad mannered, but it was a race to a mob that had been announced in OOC and you had no claim to, especially given you weren't actually in Raster's room and hadn't engaged him.
It is also very dramatic to claim that you have wasted 30 hours when in reality you wasted 2 minutes at most.
when you got back in game the area was being cleared/camped. it was a KS.
Space
06-13-2013, 11:25 PM
Also, I have a screenshot of me saying something like, "NOOOOOOOOO" and "DONT YOU DARE"
Daldolma
06-13-2013, 11:32 PM
prob not a ks per server rules but still super douchey
quido
06-13-2013, 11:36 PM
If you want something - tag it.
Space
06-13-2013, 11:37 PM
If you want something - tag it.
I needed to clear a bit to avoid getting overwhelmed. I think it was pretty obvious what I was after just being there. Plus, I said "Dont you dare" before she even engaged.
Barkingturtle
06-13-2013, 11:47 PM
Grats on Raster, Oogy.
citizen1080
06-14-2013, 12:06 AM
If you want something - tag it.
We can't =( DEY TUK OUR TAGS!
Autotune
06-14-2013, 12:20 AM
Not a KS.
You weren't in camp clearing nor had aggro on raster.
grats on idol oogelygoogly
Space
06-14-2013, 12:25 AM
Not a KS.
You weren't in camp clearing nor had aggro on raster.
grats on idol oogelygoogly
How do you define the camp? There is the raster spawn in his own room, and there are ~ 4 mino spawns right next to that. You can't solo pull raster without getting at least 2 minos.
I was clearing the mino's that would have aggro'd with raster. It seems pretty undeniable to me that they are part of the camp if you can't pull the guy you're after without them aggroing.
Rhuma7
06-14-2013, 12:37 AM
A douche is a douche.
We all know what happened here. Raster was single and accessible and greed got the better of you. Now its time for armchair lawyering over p99 camp rules and other bullshit.
Douche.
Autotune
06-14-2013, 12:53 AM
How do you define the camp? There is the raster spawn in his own room, and there are ~ 4 mino spawns right next to that. You can't solo pull raster without getting at least 2 minos.
I was clearing the mino's that would have aggro'd with raster. It seems pretty undeniable to me that they are part of the camp if you can't pull the guy you're after without them aggroing.
I define it as you getting leap frogged, not KS'd
hatelore
06-14-2013, 01:28 AM
It took me about 3 days to get him to spawn for my monk, that gd camp is ass. I left with about 5 ebony swords, 1 talisman and 4 arms. That camp is straight up ass
Space
06-14-2013, 01:30 AM
It took me about 3 days to get him to spawn for my monk, that gd camp is ass. I left with about 5 ebony swords, 1 talisman and 4 arms. That camp is straight up ass
Then imagine, after 3 days of that, you log in and he's finally there, so you start clearing the room. Then some random monk runs straight up to him while you have a bunch of minos engaged and kills him.
Ganjar
06-14-2013, 01:41 AM
KS in the very worst way, the Raster camp really lets u know about people and who they really are . Hopefully GM's will encode bad rolls and checks into this theif 4 life! Thunderous kick 2!~
Space
06-14-2013, 01:50 AM
quit being such a little whiny cry baby Space, if you feel like you have been wronged grow a pair of balls follow the turd around and kill his ass over and over until you think he has suffered as much as you from losing some shitty mob that no1 cares about.
If this was on red, I totally would.
Space
06-14-2013, 01:51 AM
quit being such a little whiny cry baby Space, if you feel like you have been wronged grow a pair of balls follow the turd around and kill his ass over and over until you think he has suffered as much as you from losing some shitty mob that no1 cares about.
I'm gonna start whining about your sig here soon too... Makin me kinda sad also.
Ganjar
06-14-2013, 01:52 AM
Sounds like this guys is definatley douche of the month award material... Nobody has any creativity. Make a thread with a voting poll , Douche of the Month, get a few canidates like Morrison and maybe that Ridan fellow :P , this guy ect. It'll be a super popular thread. If big man Ooogey wins , well he'll go down in p1999 history as first douche of the month winnaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Could be a thing of pride and shame!
Space
06-14-2013, 01:57 AM
worst idea of 2013 go jump off a cliff moran
Lol. Moran.
A douche is a douche.
We all know what happened here. Raster was single and accessible and greed got the better of you. Now its time for armchair lawyering over p99 camp rules and other bullshit.
Douche.
:D lol'd
Space, you're pissed and Raster's a bitch to pop, so understandably so. Sadly, rules are enforced exactly as stated. You'd have to have been INSIDE his camp (that fuckin room) or have aggro from him to classify this as a KS, via P99 rules. What you just experienced was the same anger behind every post you read about FTE squabbles / bigger guilds using smaller guilds as clearing mechanisms.
Evvvvvvverytime I am clearing a fully popped camp with the named up, i expect someone to pull it soon as I have it single. Just brace yourself for the realities of the north, winter is coming for us all
gotrocks
06-14-2013, 05:19 AM
relapse your sig is killin me dood
i rly dont wanna add u to ignore but that one is bad.
Cecily
06-14-2013, 08:15 AM
I mean she has a pretty face, under a couple pounds of meat.
quido
06-14-2013, 08:26 AM
You guys seem to forget that Racun was actually there first and just had to /quit to clear aggro. Allowing him to have the mob in that situation is no more a courtesy than allowing Space to have it because he showed up and started clearing the trash as Racun was logging back in. The circumstances eliminate the existence of douchiness imo. Space, you just seem like a crybaby - nobody gives a fuck what you said in /say.
kotton05
06-14-2013, 10:26 AM
To add, there is zero reason to /q at the raster camp to lose aggro.
thats what i dont get.
Space
06-14-2013, 10:36 AM
thats what i dont get.
I think she was on the way to raster camp and was clearing aggro from the maze area. She wandered in the room while I was there, which by the way there is no door, it could all be considered the same room, meaning she /q'd out outside of that area.
Raavak
06-14-2013, 10:38 AM
If you want something - tag it.
I define it as you getting leap frogged, not KS'dDem's da breaks. Great thing about the game is Raster will spawn again... some day. EQ is more about perseverance than anything.
kotton05
06-14-2013, 10:47 AM
Dem's da breaks. Great thing about the game is Raster will spawn again... some day. EQ is more about perseverance than anything.
some folks WAYY to in the moment to realize something like this, this point of view prolly makes ya a cool folk to play EQ with!!:cool:
kotton05
06-14-2013, 10:58 AM
Raavak and kotton should get together and touch penises.
clearly you are a fan of docking (The act of placing the head of ones penis inside the foreskin of another's penis.)
quido
06-14-2013, 10:59 AM
You are the cum stain on norraths left butt cheek, patricia. oogy admittedly logged out in cowardice like the poon oogy truly is. At that moment the camp had been forfeited in regards of "douchiness." Regardless if oogy was there first, being a complete dip shit that obviously had malicious intent to commit such an act as oogy admitted he saw someone fighting mobs right next to Raster, the "douchiness" crown goes to oogy. The "courtesy" goes to Space for actually being in the game fighting mobs and obviously trying to clear to Raster. As the only logical person in this entire p99 universe, oogy admitted the "douchiness" right here in this thread and deserves to be punished accordingly.
TMO will demonstrate this exact specific "douchiness" as if wearing it with a badge of honor. And those of you who don't know, this "quido" person is patrica, the real money trade king that funds this project while getting away with such "douchiness" on a constant basis. The amount of evil and examples of corruption TMO portrays is the very reason we have people like oogy who do this to other fellow Everquest players who are trying to legitimately enjoy the game. TMO and oogy only know how to enjoy the game at the expense of ruining others enjoyment of Everquest by any means possible which include potential alts like oogy. Must be a spawn of TMO to commit such "douchiness" and thus be congratulated and defended by the corrupt staff molds that is TMO in this very thread.
People will continue enjoy the game at others expense, as such, as long as they can get away with it which they currently are and will continue to do. Thank your staff members for these type of players because the low population on both P99 and Red99 couldn't be possible without them. So many have turned away from this project and those who haven't even experienced this project are well aware of the corruption of both these servers in which how everything is handled and neglected.
lol
did he really type all that??
#assburgers
A douche is a douche.
We all know what happened here. Raster was single and accessible and greed got the better of you. Now its time for armchair lawyering over p99 camp rules and other bullshit.
Douche.
That.
lol
The last post by quido?
At least he went out laughing.
Freakish
07-10-2013, 11:55 AM
Thanks for the new robe Oooey!
Ektar
07-10-2013, 12:32 PM
good read
favorite part was oooey receiving feminine pronouns
Rhambuk
07-10-2013, 02:15 PM
question 0 if the OP still had to log over to his monk to loot the idol then he was obviously going to lose it to the other monk, no matter what happened
It'd be a rightclick war and whoever got lucky wins I'd assume.
Word of advice next time he pops and you do get him, op, pull him to a secluded area of lguk where people wont see a rotting raster or just be waiting to ks you after reading this.
Reapin
07-10-2013, 05:23 PM
If you can't kill Raster with your monk you don't deserve to loot him.
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