LF a good rpg

[Novoselic]

I've been extremely jaded with all mmos. Nothing is appealing. So I may as well seek my entertainment in single player rpgs. Can anybody recommend me a good one?

[SamwiseRed]

earthbound, ff3, pokeman, suikoden, secret of mana, shining force.

[Samoht]

i second shining force. emphasis on shining force 2.

try also might & magic 6 or 7 (not heroes)

borderlands 2 (love the humor in this game)

civ 4 with the master of mana (http://www.masterofmana.com/) mod

[Kagatob]

Morrowind

[Rhambuk]

obviously ff 7 9 3 6 tactics

legend of legaia is amazing!

seiken densetsu 3 if you like secret of mana

chrono trigger

alot of the talez series are incredible symphonia for gc is great the older ones can be annoyinglh hard

are some of my favs not sure what console or emu your after but here are some more
tactics ogre
super mario rpg
legend of dragoon
definitley shjing force even my friends that hate rpgs love this game

[Novoselic]

Morrowind

Is morrowind anything like Oblivion? Oblivion was fun for a while but I got bored of it.

[Novoselic]

I'm looking for something that's more like an mmo if that makes any sense. Pref PC

[Rhambuk]

I'm looking for something that's more like an mmo if that makes any sense. Pref PC

ah not my style oblivion is popular and morrowing nwn or baldurs gate hmm know heresbmore enclave is fun or me just hack slash no levels but gear based worth a shot

also dungeon siege 1 2 1 had isues but was still fun 2 i didnt play lot it looked say better but it wasnt popular due to the issues of the first

[Novoselic]

ah not my style oblivion is popular and morrowing nwn or baldurs gate hmm know heresbmore enclave is fun or me just hack slash no levels but gear based worth a shot

I've heard good things about nwn so I'll look at that.

[Rhambuk]

I've heard good things about nwn so I'll look at that.

pistol raves about it but single player mmo style games are not my style

aded to my original btw

[Kagatob]

Is morrowind anything like Oblivion? Oblivion was fun for a while but I got bored of it.

It's like Oblivion in that Oblivion is a bad version of Morrowind with better graphics.

It's what I would play when I didn't have access to EQ back in the day because it was the next best thing. In retrospect it was superior in many ways.

[GoodGuyAmes]

http://www.gog.com/gamecard/divine_divinity

[Rhambuk]

http://www.gog.com/gamecard/divine_divinity

this looks interestin im goin to try it.

ultima should be om the list of rpgs as well

[Myth]

Final fantasy: crisis core (ff7 prelude) on PSP is awesome. It will bring a tear to your eye if you are a fan of FF7. Combat system is a little weird, but its not game breaking. After completing, I recommend jumping right into a story playthrough of ff7 to extend your immersion.

Others;
Xenogears
Kingdom Hearts
Super Mario RPG
FF9

[Myth]

I'm looking for something that's more like an mmo if that makes any sense. Pref PC

Didn't see this, sorry.
Check out Kingdom of Amalur it's very MMO'ish. Not sure if its available on PC or not.

[Rhambuk]

Final fantasy: crisis core (ff7 prelude) on PSP is awesome. It will bring a tear to your eye if you are a fan of FF7. Combat system is a little weird, but its not game breaking. After completing, I recommend jumping right into a story playthrough of ff7 to extend your immersion


i wasnt a big fan of cc i think it was the battl system i couldnt get passed it to get into he story

own a vita by chance? :)

[Millburn]

Kingdom of Amalur is probably the closest you'll get for what you're looking for. It's very repetitive though so keep that in mind. Fun but over stays its welcome is the best way to put it.

[Myth]

i wasnt a big fan of cc i think it was the battl system i couldnt get passed it to get into he story

own a vita by chance? :)

The battle system is strange but the story was so worth it. Now that I'm posting about it I want to fire up my PSP and start playing it again!
No I don't own a vita.

[GoodGuyAmes]

this looks interestin im goin to try it.

ultima should be om the list of rpgs as well

it was voted one of the best 100 pc games of all time by pcgamer magazine at like number 73 on the list

[Rhambuk]

The battle system is strange but the story was so worth it. Now that I'm posting about it I want to fire up my PSP and start playing it again!
No I don't own a vita.

shame its an amazingbsystem. ill look for it on psn and give it another go

[Samoht]

Didn't see this, sorry.
Check out Kingdom of Amalur it's very MMO'ish. Not sure if its available on PC or not.

KoA trash game. do not buy.

[Novoselic]

http://www.gog.com/gamecard/divine_divinity
This game looks like fun. Your signature makes me want to puke btw. I'm liking some of the suggestions here, but for now I'm going to finish The Legend of Zelda before I start any of these.

[Rhambuk]

Your signature makes me want to puke btw

glad im not the only one.

Saga frontier is also pretty good, combat system is a little not hard or annoying just different and basic. Never played 2 but i always wanted to, the graphics looked awesome for psx

[Cords]

Nevergrind.com is a single player, turn based everquest game :P No loot system in the game yet, or gear, but a patch comes out monday, that should be changing that.

[Rhambuk]

is it really single everquest? same zones classes etc etc?

I always wanted that as a kid because my parents only allowed so much internet. didnt want me tieing up the phone line all the time

[Rhambuk]

mud with pictures heh not terrible but not what i was expecting )

[Novoselic]

Nevergrind.com is a single player, turn based everquest game :P No loot system in the game yet, or gear, but a patch comes out monday, that should be changing that.

Played it for five minutes, raged and then I alt-F4'd my browser. Game looks like it has potential but def not ready yet.

[Cords]

the necro is the overpowered in Nevergrind, which should change when loot is added to the game. But the point is to chain kills for xp bonus, and necro is the only one you can kill 4 mobs at a time safely. The other classes I've tried are so much slower. Bard sucks. But its something i can play, until I move and can actually get back on eqemu P1999

[Novoselic]

I've resorted to using emulators to get my video game fix. PC games aren't satisfying for me anymore. Playing A Link to the Past right now and I forgot how fun this game was (haven't played it since i was a kid). Although, I hate this fucking dungeon.

[LiQuid]

Play it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebeffqca_Bw

[Rhambuk]

I think the 3rd and 5th dungeons of the dark world are my least favorite.

in 3 theres so much back and forth the skeletons that dont die without bombs that fall from the cieling and the boss is a pain in the ass, conveyor belt taking you in all 4 directions randomly while spikes fly from all sides.

the 5th with ice is long and again you have to go through it hit a switch to turn orange blue or something go all the way around again to do something else. pain in the ass.

still amazing

[chtulu]

The way that do pronounced Puyallup on the shadow run video was LOL

[Novoselic]

I think the 3rd and 5th dungeons of the dark world are my least favorite.

in 3 theres so much back and forth the skeletons that dont die without bombs that fall from the cieling and the boss is a pain in the ass, conveyor belt taking you in all 4 directions randomly while spikes fly from all sides.

the 5th with ice is long and again you have to go through it hit a switch to turn orange blue or something go all the way around again to do something else. pain in the ass.

still amazing

The boss in the third dungeon really pissed me off, bastard kept pushing me off the ledge making restart that whole fucking fight. I haven't gotten that pissed at a videogame in a long time.

[Kagatob]

I think the 3rd and 5th dungeons of the dark world are my least favorite.

in 3 theres so much back and forth the skeletons that dont die without bombs that fall from the cieling and the boss is a pain in the ass, conveyor belt taking you in all 4 directions randomly while spikes fly from all sides.

the 5th with ice is long and again you have to go through it hit a switch to turn orange blue or something go all the way around again to do something else. pain in the ass.

still amazing
I didn't like the dark world forest dungeon either, it was poorly designed to the point if you did it a certain way you could clear it and still have a key left over.

The Ice fortress was a tedious endeavor to be sure, I make a point to skip it and go to the 6th dungeon first so you can have the Cane of Somaria and are able to bypass all that crap, this makes things even more interesting in the 6th dungeon because without the blue armor everything hits you for 4 hearts (boss hits you for 8) so it becomes a very satisfying challenge.
The boss in the third dungeon really pissed me off, bastard kept pushing me off the ledge making restart that whole fucking fight. I haven't gotten that pissed at a videogame in a long time.
I found it to be a necessary evil, it's the only boss in the game where you need to actively fight it as opposed to sitting in a corner spamming the B button while occasionally lazily dodging.

[Sularus Oth Mithas]

i second shining force. emphasis on shining force 2.

try also might & magic 6 or 7 (not heroes)

borderlands 2 (love the humor in this game)

civ 4 with the master of mana (http://www.masterofmana.com/) mod

Casting my vote with Shining Force 2 - love this game.

Also any of the Final Fantasy series - although 4,6,7,8,9 would be my preferred choices.

[Uggme]

most games being recomended are pretty old. If you have a Wii or WiiU, try Xenoblade Chronicls. I just finished the game and it's phenomenal.

[Malice_Mizer]

Any Fallout title ever made.

If you like Baldur's Gate, go for the first 2. If you like Morrowind/Oblivion/Syrim, go for New Vegas. Insane cult following of the first two-- one of the first games I ever really fell in love with when I was in middle school.

I've dumped some serious time into New Vegas and I still love the game.

[Cords]

Any good browser based games?

[big league chew]

DRAGON MOTHERFUCKING WARRIOR

[Rhambuk]

I make a point to skip it and go to the 6th dungeon first so you can have the Cane of Somaria and are able to bypass all that crap, this makes things even more interesting in the 6th dungeon because without the blue armor everything hits you for 4 hearts (boss hits you for 8) so it becomes a very satisfying challenge.



I've never done that as many times as ive played through, I now have a new found interest in the game and will probably replay it and try to make it as hard as possible, no red boomerang no magic arrows (until gannon) no upgraded armor, no extra heart pieces.

Yeah, that sounds like it will be fun ) especially skipping dungeons when i can

[Kagatob]

If you can handle minimalist mode more power to you. I tried it in LTTP and OOT, both times I got frustrated in quit before the 3rd dungeon, not because it was difficult but because I love secrets and avoiding them leaves me feeling dirty. :p

[Novoselic]

most games being recomended are pretty old. If you have a Wii or WiiU, try Xenoblade Chronicls. I just finished the game and it's phenomenal.

That's because 90% of modern games suck balls. Classic games are the best because they're original, innovative, and they actually bring you into a world of adventure and excitement. Most modern games I've played just feel like shit, especially the online ones like LoL.

[Arclyte]

don't listen to all these shitty weeaboo suggestions

Planescape Torment
Fallout 1 / 2
Baldur's Gate 1 / 2
Arcanum

[Rhambuk]

If you can handle minimalist mode more power to you. I tried it in LTTP and OOT, both times I got frustrated in quit before the 3rd dungeon, not because it was difficult but because I love secrets and avoiding them leaves me feeling dirty. :p

you say minimalist mode do you mean using nothing but sword and basic shield unless otherwise required? I was thinking going through and getting whats there just not getting extra hearts..probably not even using bottles..

now that I think of minimalist mode i might just go through with nothing but basic sword and shield unless bosses require certain weapon attacks.

It's going to be brutal

[Millburn]

Shadowrun Returns releases around the 25th of this month. GET HYPED

[Malice_Mizer]

don't listen to all these shitty weeaboo suggestions

Planescape Torment
Fallout 1 / 2
Baldur's Gate 1 / 2
Arcanum

This is pretty much all you'll need to keep yourself entertained for an eternity.

[Sollix]

Any Fallout title ever made.

Fallout 3 GOTY had me mesmerized for weeks

[Novoselic]

Fallout 3 GOTY had me mesmerized for weeks

I forgot how much fun I had playing Fallout 3. That game took what ever was left of my social life and shat on it. This one is next on my list. And thank you everybody who recommended me some rpgs, but I'm not playing any jrpgs (including any final fantasy except for 9 and 4 because those two are the only good ones) , I hate them with a burning passion. This ***** got me running around n shit.

[Malice_Mizer]

Final Fantasy 9 is possibly the most JRPG inspired, vapid piece of crap the series had to offer.

Seriously. If you could tolerate Zidane as a main character but not Cloud or Titus, there is something seriously wrong.

[nilbog]

ad&d 2e

[Malice_Mizer]

ad&d 2e

http://www.rpgcrossing.com/

[Sularus Oth Mithas]

ad&d 2e

My man!:cool:

[Rhambuk]

If you could tolerate Zidane as a main character but not Cloud or Titus

How can you even compare zidane to titus, titus is the WORST main character of any mmo i think i have ever played. He's just awful and I couldn't get behind him at all, I never rooted for him imo you should always be cheering on your main character you want to see zidane defeat kuja and win garnet, i never cared about titus. He didn't seem to care he was just along for the ride following the rest of his group and i never expected him to really do anything.

of course i played through 9 at least 5 times and i only got to the end of 10, it wasn't worth beating imo, i did not like the story and don't get me start on the gridsphere garbage.

[Malice_Mizer]

How can you even compare zidane to titus, titus is the WORST main character of any mmo i think i have ever played. He's just awful and I couldn't get behind him at all, I never rooted for him imo you should always be cheering on your main character you want to see zidane defeat kuja and win garnet, i never cared about titus. He didn't seem to care he was just along for the ride following the rest of his group and i never expected him to really do anything.

of course i played through 9 at least 5 times and i only got to the end of 10, it wasn't worth beating imo, i did not like the story and don't get me start on the gridsphere garbage.

Oh man, oh man. This may come to blows, buddy.

[Rhambuk]

Oh man, oh man. This may come to blows, buddy.

Oh I think it may! You don't speak ill of my man Zidane and claim that titus has ANYTHING over him!

[Kagatob]

Not the biggest FF9 fan in the world but the game was good enough for me to take the time to play through twice. The characters and story of FF9 trumped 10 any day of the week.

Titus was such a shitty character I was actually happy to find out it was all a dream in the end. Zidane's story had some depth to it and his character interactions were at least somewhat believable.

[Sularus Oth Mithas]

I liked Tidus - It was the voice actor that needed to be shot. His voice was like nails on a chalkboard.

[Millburn]

Tidus was the worst Final Fantasy protagonist - FACT

Zidane was NOT the worst Final Fantasy protagonist - also FACT

The math adds up, you can't dispute that.

Edit: Forgot to add that Zidane is literally David Bowie which automatically makes him better.

[Sollix]

Edit: Forgot to add that Zidane is literally David Bowie which automatically makes him better.

Wat

[Sollix]

And Jesus, Millburn. That sig picture

[Hasbinbad]

Kingdom of Amalur

[Hasbinbad]

The best final fantasy protagonist was:

Fgtr, Thef, BkMg, & WtMg

[Hasbinbad]

RedM was for wishy washy wusses

[Hasbinbad]

and u cant use both xcalbur and masmune if u don't have ninja and knight or 2 knights (which sucks)

[Millburn]

Wat

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5844583424/h43305596/

And Jesus, Millburn. That sig picture

Asian hottie wants your goodies.

[Malice_Mizer]

God, just looking at Zidane with his giant head, huge feathered hair, minuscule vest, massive cuffs, and frilly ascot + ribbon makes me want to puke, gais.

He's like a caricature of anime.

http://images.zap2it.com/images/tv-EP00362235/titus-4.jpg

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN BOUT BOIS. (I realize his name is Tidus.)

[K|mm Barely]

Warsong for Sega Genesis. Fast forward through battles if it gets tedious.

[Kagatob]

He's like a caricature of anime.
This I don't even words...
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN BOUT BOIS. (I realize his name is Tidus.)

Christopher Titus is actually entertaining, Tidus from FFX was not, comparing the two is an insult to Titus. Apologize to him now.

[Malice_Mizer]

Christopher Titus is actually entertaining, Tidus from FFX was not, comparing the two is an insult to Titus. Apologize to him now.

I thought they were the same person

[Kagatob]

I thought they were the same person

Coming from you this is believable.

[katrik]

Titus = Goofy blonde from X
Zidane = Fellow with monkey tail from IX

Rite? I only finished X.

[MrSparkle001]

Warsong for Sega Genesis. Fast forward through battles if it gets tedious.

Seconded. It's really fun.

Master Of Monsters is even better.

[Millburn]

Can we get back to the whole Zidane being David Bowie thing...because it's pretty much the play maker in my book.

[Novoselic]

Ok let's get this straight. Comparing zidane to tidus is like comparing Kurt Cobain to Justin Bieber. Tidus is just another shitty ass generic jrpg hero, but Zidane is unique, he's interesting and very fun to play with as a hero.

[MrSparkle001]

Can we get back to the whole Zidane being David Bowie thing...because it's pretty much the play maker in my book.

No, because who the fuck is Zidane?

[Malice_Mizer]

No, because who the fuck is Zidane?

http://www.pophistorydig.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/ZZ-in-action-1.jpg

[Malice_Mizer]

But if you don't play through FFX, then you can't play through FFX-2...

... And then you don't get Rikku's sweet thong, guys.

http://windiegardie.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/rikku.jpeg

Just think about it, already. GOD...

[Kagatob]

But if you don't play through FFX, then you can't play through FFX-2...

... And then you don't get Rikku's sweet thong, guys.

Just think about it, already. GOD...

Or you could just sit back and watch Dead Fantasy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO8RxVCMrUo) for a half hour instead of playing a terrible game for 40 hours.

[Malice_Mizer]

Or you could just sit back and watch Dead Fantasy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO8RxVCMrUo) for a half hour instead of playing a terrible game for 40 hours.

Naw-- I have to see that thing work in every single situation, angle, and musical setting possible.

I'm picky, and it takes a long time, but when it happens ... ... ...

[Rhambuk]

Been looking for a good OLD rpg here too, there are a lot of ps1 classics on the PSN store and ive been trying to find a good one. Some ive never tried but looked at have been

Grandia
Xenogears
arc the lad
wild arms
alundra

been doing some research on them but a wiki is no match to someones honest opinion

I really like the idea of grandia and xenogears, i think it would be XG hands down if it werent for the robots. just dont like the idea.

Any input on both games would be great! )

[Millburn]

I'm a huge Arc The Lad fan and can't really recommend AtL 1,2, and 3 enough. The first one is VERY dated but is still a great experience, albeit quite short. 1 and 2 should be considered together and make up an EPIC story arc that is incredibly engaging. If you're a fan of sRPG's then you shouldn't pass them up.

[Malice_Mizer]

Been looking for a good OLD rpg here too, there are a lot of ps1 classics on the PSN store and ive been trying to find a good one. Some ive never tried but looked at have been

Grandia
Xenogears
arc the lad
wild arms
alundra

been doing some research on them but a wiki is no match to someones honest opinion

I really like the idea of grandia and xenogears, i think it would be XG hands down if it werent for the robots. just dont like the idea.

Any input on both games would be great! )

Xenogears is about so much more than robots. They almost play a peripheral role in the storyline. All kinds of Freudian shit, an insanely deep cast of characters, long as hell (took me ~80 hours), and a soundtrack by Yasunori Mitsuda (Chrono Trigger/Cross). I've only played through it once, but it stands as one of the most memorable games I've ever played. Looking back on it, I almost forgot that robots even really had anything to do with it. It's definitely not in the mecha genre, imho, though I'd understand it being placed in it.

I'd also go for Grandia 2 over the first Grandia. I love me some Grandia 2. Good example of a cast of characters that you fall in love with and are sad to see the game end. Beautiful graphics/music, etc. Also one of my most memorable RPG experiences. Dreamcast ftw, but they also rereleased it on PS2.

The original Wild Arms is a fucking joke. It's such a comically bad game, dude. I wanted to like it badly, and the intro scene is obviously cool. But overall, extremely lackluster, stupid combat, and failed execution all-around.

[Rhambuk]

I purchased grandia this morning, regretting it now after hearing your testimony for xenogears 80s and a lot of playable characters are my bag. Ill have to go pick up another PSN card tomorrow and snag it.

Mill can you tell me a little more about atl? not an in depth story line or anything but some mechanics etc?

[Millburn]

It's a strategic RPG so grid combat like Final Fantasy Tactics. You have a bunch of characters each with their own abilities that they get over time. Each character can equip different classes of weapons which allows them to have different basic attacks and have different angles of approach on the battlefield. Characters level up themselves but also rank up their items which give modifiers and also unlock hidden status effects, which you can also do through special shops in most towns.

[Rhambuk]

ooh that sounds pretty awesome

[MrSparkle001]

You want a fun strategic RPG? Wizard's Crown for the commodore 64, easily found for emulator. It's old but it's pretty deep. You have a party of 8 characters, combat is turn-based on a map, different weapons have different effects like axes having a greater chance to break a shield if blocked, flails unable to be blocked, shields only able to block attacks from front or left side, you can lie prone to greatly reduce chance to be hit by enemy archers but melee can easily hit you.

There's no character levels, everything is skill-based. You spend XP to increase skills or your stats if you're really patient. There's bleeding and injury instead of hit points, both of which can make you unconscious if not taken care of. There's lots of random loot and lots to explore.

I'll add a bit more: Besides magic (from sorcerers), there's three types of damage: cut, bash and thrust. Certain armors are better vs certain types, with plate being the best overall but requiring the most strength. Every character can potentially wear plate but it will take forever to raise some class' strength stat enough, like sorcerers.

You can improve magic items you find at a magic shop if you have enough gold. Magic armor just increases in stats, but magic weapons come in three types, one that does pure magic damage, one that greatly increases physical damage, and one that blasts life force.

You can mix and match classes as you like for each character so long as they have enough INT. But giving them enough INT at creation may gimp their other stats, so a fighter/sorcerer will take forever to develop but is seriously strong once he does.

You can also take your characters to the game's sequel The Eternal Dagger, which I've always loved about those old games.

Combat can be difficult. That's actually what makes it so fun.

[Rhambuk]

hmm not bad ill have to put it on the list.

one of my favorites was bahamut lagoon, turn based map strategy but when your unit came up to another to attack it turned into a more turn based final fantasy battle. Your 1 unit on the field stands as a team of 4 that fight for you, you dont have to choose to go into battle you can just attack the "team unit" and they all take damage.

There are also dragons that each team unit has, and are playable on the map and in the same fashion as above but only 1 dragon per unit team. They are able to affect the map ie setting bushes on fire and if a team unit is on it they take damage their round. you have to freeze rivers to cross them, you can later melt them with fire if an enemy is over it and they take damage on their turn.

the dragons level up and you can feed them any item in the game to enhance their stats and change their graphic. the story was meh, but the gameplay was an amazing design and surprised it didnt catch on more.

[Novoselic]

This thread has been taken over by weaboos.

[Rhambuk]

http://pbfcomics.com/archive_b/PBF071-Weeaboo.gif

[MrSparkle001]

This thread has been taken over by weaboos.

I'm bringing it back, talking about stuff that's so oldschool people probably never heard of it.