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Eyry
07-08-2010, 02:45 PM
...for real?

All Frodo Baggins had to do was jump on the back of a damn eagle and fly to the Mountain of fire and throw the ring in.

It would have taken literally an hour to fly there and back...

Thanks for wasting my damn time J. R. R. Tolkien...
astarothel
07-08-2010, 02:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yqVD0swvWU
Eyry
07-08-2010, 02:56 PM
BAHAHAHAHAHHAA! I <3 you Astarothel!
Hasbinbad
07-08-2010, 02:58 PM
zomg thats some serious wtfpwnage
Stickyfingers
07-08-2010, 03:29 PM
Gandalf is one of the Maiar, they are only supposed to overlook and protect the people of middle earth. In this case, Gandalf is not supposed to meddle in their affairs, thus why Gandalf trusts the ring with Frodo and doesn't do it himself, the Maiar were sent by the Valar to assist Middle Earth against Sauron, not flat out defeat him.
Stickyfingers
07-08-2010, 03:30 PM
Serious response is srs.
Eyry
07-08-2010, 03:34 PM
Ok, maybe not Gandalf, but the eagles...the eagles could have helped him right?
Hasbinbad
07-08-2010, 04:20 PM
Gandalf is one of the Maiar, they are only supposed to overlook and protect the people of middle earth. In this case, Gandalf is not supposed to meddle in their affairs, thus why Gandalf trusts the ring with Frodo and doesn't do it himself, the Maiar were sent by the Valar to assist Middle Earth against Sauron, not flat out defeat him.
Is this what JRRT is trying to say in that horrible travesty of a jumble of words called the Simarillion?
Aarone
07-08-2010, 04:30 PM
Is this what JRRT is trying to say in that horrible travesty of a jumble of words called the Simarillion?

No, it's implied pretty heavily in TLoTR, and only directly acknowledged in his backstory notes.

And the Silmarillion is a horrible jumbling of editing, not words - for which Christopher Tolkien (and Guy Gavriel Kay, don't forget) get the blame! :p
Shaun421
07-08-2010, 04:37 PM
Did the Silmarillion get changed/edited recently (within the last 15 years or so)? I have a copy from the 1970s and I didn't find it particularly jumbled. It's a hell of a book.
Cronoclops
07-09-2010, 12:30 AM
Is this what JRRT is trying to say in that horrible travesty of a jumble of words called the Simarillion?

The Silmarillion is a fantastic story.Greater then LOTR itself. If you have the disiplen to get through the editing you would have the answer to your question.

No the eagles cannot directly interfere either as they are the servants of the chief god of Middle Earth who will not involve himself in this struggle directly. The battle the gods were involved was to throw down the true evil god <not Sauron> and that sank 3/4 of the world into the ocean. In short it's not EQ with insta travel or rent a windrider.
Lazortag
07-09-2010, 03:00 AM
Frodo should have just gotten a druid to port him there.

Or alternatively he could have grouped with a Bard with selo's, it's probably faster.
Lill-Leif
07-09-2010, 04:25 AM
"Don't tempt me Frodo! I dare not take it. Not even to keep it safe. Understand Frodo, I would use this Ring from a desire to do good. But through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine."
Eyry
07-09-2010, 08:58 AM
The eagles wouldnt have to interfere...all they have to do is fly over and let frodo drop the ring in.
Ripcord
07-09-2010, 09:17 AM
Fucking prude ass eagles man not a day goes by that some bird of prey flat out refuses to fly me somewhere
FatMagic
07-09-2010, 10:50 AM
Fucking prude ass eagles man not a day goes by that some bird of prey flat out refuses to fly me somewhere

ROFL!! :D
Appaullo
07-09-2010, 11:01 AM
What troubles me most is the true hero is Samwise ... He *wanted* the ring to be thrown into the lava. He and Frodo got there and what does Frodo do? "NO!! I'm keeping it!"

All this nonsense over what a hero Frodo is?! Bah!!
Stickyfingers
07-09-2010, 11:37 AM
What troubles me most is the true hero is Samwise ... He *wanted* the ring to be thrown into the lava. He and Frodo got there and what does Frodo do? "NO!! I'm keeping it!"

All this nonsense over what a hero Frodo is?! Bah!!

I know right? At the end of LOTR, Frodo doesn't even get there if Sam doesn't defeat Shelob, then at the end, Frodo gets to go to Valinor and Sam is left there...wtf!
Psyduck
07-09-2010, 08:12 PM
I don't know if I would call Beleriand 3/4 of the world. It was at best 1/3 of Middle Earth, probably closer to 1/4. And Middle Earth is only one of the many continents in Arda.
h0tr0d (shaere)
07-09-2010, 09:41 PM
Eagles weren't in Middle earth, but afghanistan, where the WMD were...
deificus
07-09-2010, 10:04 PM
You forget about the fell beasts. Those are the flying reptiles that the ringwraiths rode after their horses were washed away in the flood at the Ford of Bruinen, outside Rivendell. The Eye would have spotted them many leagues away, and sent his fell beasts to intercept them. The eagles would have been torn to pieces long before they reached Mordor. The only reason the eagles were able to rescue Frodo and Sam after the destruction of the One Ring was because Sauron could no longer control the fell beasts. It's also why Aragorn and his army survived the battle at the Black Gate. Sauron could no longer control the orcs, trolls, etc., and without their dark master's presence, they fled.

I know, your post was made in jest, but there are some who actually hate LotR because of this supposed "plot hole" that is easily explained with just a little thought.